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Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 1/31/2012 10:30:15 PM   
Ray Butts

 

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Status: offline 		Hi guys, been playing the game a few weeks. (Been staying with some friends, Who have DW, And DW:ROTS)

Been Loving it tbh. Great fun, I was a big sins of a soler playing, or its right up my street.

But now I am home so I buy Legends? Dose it add much to ROTS?

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Below is a pic of my last game. was doing good till the bad guys showed up.


But unlike my other games I was not winning even before they showed up, my strategic value alwasy sucked, even having all the rare goods in the gal. and my millitary is only second to the shaktur. no one eles close





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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 1/31/2012 11:10:52 PM   
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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 6:55:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ray Butts

But now I am home so I buy Legends? Dose it add much to ROTS?


You will have to shell out for DW AND RotS AND Legends, in order for you to be able to play with all the Legends fixes/enhancements.

That's about USD$95! Way above high street prices for any game. I can't recommend the game at that price, much as I like it.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 10:46:30 AM   
Ray Butts

 

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Status: offline 		DO you have to buy ROTS also??? that sucks. its starting to cost a lot then

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 2:40:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		From what I see in the screen you already have ROTS and original DW so you can just buy Legend. Only thing I would advise is updating ROTS to the latest version before installing Legends or you won't gain all the improvements.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 3:41:14 PM   
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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 4:44:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Theluin
From what I see in the screen you already have ROTS and original DW so you can just buy Legend.


Did you read his message? The OP clearly stated that he was playing on a friend's computer.

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ORIGINAL: Theluin
Only thing I would advise is updating ROTS to the latest version before installing Legends or you won't gain all the improvements.


That statement is irrelevant, misleading and a waste of time. You gain absolutely nothing by updating RotS before you install Legends. Legends will overwrite all changes made by RotS updates.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 4:49:56 PM   
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DO you have to buy ROTS also??? that sucks. its starting to cost a lot then


Legends requires RotS
Rots requires DW
Thus, to play Legends, you have to buy all three - DW, RotS and Legends. That is quite clearly stated on the product page.

It is quite a pretty penny they want from a potential new customer. If you feel the price is excessive (how could you not?), you should post a message on the main forums indicating so. Perhaps the Matrix boys will address your concerns directly.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 5:14:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did make a mistake, I did not notice that he wrote he did not own any part of the game.
--Hostile mode on--
Happy now? Your inferiority complex and attitude problem feeling all good and cosy?
--Hostile mode off--
You do gain images for ion weapons from the last ROTS update. Without last ROTS patch you have a white a square instead of ion weapon images. Quit being hostile.




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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 5:38:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ray Butts

DO you have to buy ROTS also??? that sucks. its starting to cost a lot then


Yep, it does cost quite a lot indeed. But there's not so many great 4Xs around nowadays, and Elliot is listening to communitys wishes quite a lot, making the game even better over time.
I personally don't have problems with the price, but I can see the point of the financially restricted or princibled people. No offences meant.
Still, I'd recommend getting DW+RotS+Legends if you like RotS. The decision is yours in the end.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 6:18:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		This game is very good. Is it worth THAT much? Who knows. It's priced bizarrly. But so is one of my other favorite independent games (the Dominions series, currently Dominions 3) which is far too expensive (priced in the AAA segment). I still bought it of course, because I can, but it is against my principles, which makes me .... erm forget it. I suppose if you spend $10 on a movie (or however much a movie visit costs now in the US), and spend thus $100 for 20 hours of entertainment, I bet that you might get "more" for the $100 you need to invest in DW (you WILL play it more than 20 hours. But of course that could be a bad thing, taking time away from your going out and watching movies with other humans). Anyway, J HG T is right, only you can decide if the goodness of this game is worth the steepness of the price.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 6:38:15 PM   
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I did make a mistake, I did not notice that he wrote he did not own any part of the game.
--Hostile mode on--
<snip>


It's not hostility to point out that you're wrong.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 7:30:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was referring to the second part of your post

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/1/2012 10:22:16 PM   
Kayoz


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ORIGINAL: Theluin

I was referring to the second part of your post


You said, "I would advise is updating ROTS to the latest version before installing Legends or you won't gain all the improvements. " - which is false. The issue of the ion cannon icon is questionable, as I haven't seen any evidence to support your claim that one MUST install the RotS update to get it - that it isn't in Legends nor in any Legends update. All other improvements are - or from what I have seen - implemented in the Legends code branch.

Again, as I stated previously, I'm pointing out your errors. If you are uncomfortable with being corrected, I would advise you:
1. check your facts before committing them to a post
or
2. don't post on the forum - as they say, - heat, kitchen, stay

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ORIGINAL: Theluin
Without last ROTS patch you have a white a square instead of ion weapon images.


Just checked - you're wrong. It is in 1.7.0.10

< Message edited by Kayoz -- 2/2/2012 1:37:36 AM >

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 3:12:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kayoz


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ORIGINAL: Ray Butts

But now I am home so I buy Legends? Dose it add much to ROTS?


You will have to shell out for DW AND RotS AND Legends, in order for you to be able to play with all the Legends fixes/enhancements.

That's about USD$95! Way above high street prices for any game. I can't recommend the game at that price, much as I like it.


Just Checked - You're Wrong. You can Purchase DW + RotS + Legends for $79.99 U.S.

A bunch of money for sure, but only $20 more than high end video games these days, and I for one have played this more than any game in the past year other than maybe Skyrim.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 4:12:05 AM   
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Just Checked - You're Wrong. You can Purchase DW + RotS + Legends for $79.99 U.S.

A bunch of money for sure, but only $20 more than high end video games these days, and I for one have played this more than any game in the past year other than maybe Skyrim.


DW = 288.99 SEK
RotS = 180.99
Legends = 180.99
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650.97 SEK

650.97 SEK = 96.8718 USD

That's the price for each as shown on Matrixgames website. I don't know what your information source is.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 5:44:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		My information source is the matrix game website listed in U.S. dollars.  $39.99 for DW, and after the discount for buying the add-ons together with DW both RotS and Legends are $19.99 each for a total of $79.97.  I somewhat assumed you were getting your figures after a currency conversion.  I am not sure where the OP is located so his price may vary, but in actual U.S. dollars the price is as I listed it.
Cheers

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 9:00:40 AM   
Kayoz


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ORIGINAL: Whydmer

My information source is the matrix game website listed in U.S. dollars. $39.99 for DW, and after the discount for buying the add-ons together with DW both RotS and Legends are $19.99 each for a total of $79.97. I somewhat assumed you were getting your figures after a currency conversion. I am not sure where the OP is located so his price may vary, but in actual U.S. dollars the price is as I listed it.
Cheers


Currency seems to be based on IP location - mine comes from Sweden, so price is presented to me in SEK.

You mentioned a discount - and indeed there is a 20% discount on RotS and Legends if you buy them with DW... but you ONLY see the discount after you begin the purchase process. Mysteriously, it is not mentioned anywhere on the product pages for RotS nor on the Legends product page.

$96 is what I saw given the figures on their website. It's actually $85.82 with the discount and conversion - which makes it slightly less of a gouge... but for $3 more, you can get Skyrim and Batman Arkham City ... shipped to your door. I can't help but to think that Matrix's pricing policies are hurting them.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 1:34:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah the price is high I'm from Poland and for me only Legends costs the equivalent of the price MW2 had on it's polish release day. (Actually 5$ less now that I checked)

Coming back to the update, perhaps they added it to 1.7.0.10 (shouldn't it be 1.7.1.0? strange numbering convention) but before that it was true. If you want proof you can check the video AAR by idjester where he does have the white square instead of the ion weapons image.

PS. Sorry about that earlier personal comment. I get easily pissed off sometimes. It's silly, I know.

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/2/2012 5:09:13 PM   
Ray Butts

 

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Status: offline 		The discount dont cout for much with vat at 20% taking it to £64 to buy the full game

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RE: Hi/Help/Get Legends? - 2/5/2012 1:31:59 PM   
Ray Butts

 

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Status: offline 		So I got legends, and was having a great game till the dam sharket showed up. I had just invaded the race to the south. removing 3 of there planets, when the sharket showed up. I had 14k dps the sharket had 1k... 3 months later the start a war with me.. 2 months after that I am down to 12k dps they are up to 9k..... they in my home system killing all my ship. i had a fleet of 4k dps vs one of there fleets. They just raped me. they cap ships where wimping the floor with my ships. my ships just keep moving away and dieing. There ships sit there and kick ass. Not sure what i did wrong.

Fked

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