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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 2:30:15 AM

FDRLincoln

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Mersing and Wuchow fall to the forces of the Empire.

Ground combat at Wuchow (76,57)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28468 troops, 381 guns, 244 vehicles, Assault Value = 935

Defending force 8482 troops, 73 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 185

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 712

Allied adjusted defense: 134

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wuchow !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
307 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3523 casualties reported
Squads: 213 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 132 destroyed, 56 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 49 (47 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
104th Division
38th Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
5th RF Gun Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
23rd Army
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
62nd Chinese Corps
2nd Prov Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
13th Chinese Base Force

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 59975 troops, 615 guns, 431 vehicles, Assault Value = 2393

Defending force 39418 troops, 498 guns, 582 vehicles, Assault Value = 1192

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 919

Allied adjusted defense: 2047

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5840 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 325 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 56 destroyed, 90 disabled
Guns lost 47 (8 destroyed, 39 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (6 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1320 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 135 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 45 (4 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Assaulting units:
56th Engineer Regiment
48th Division
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
33rd Division
4th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
9th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
56th Recon Regiment
1st Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
14th Army
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
71st PA Infantry Division
41st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Constabulary Regiment
91st PA Infantry Division
14th PS Engineer Regiment
21st PA Infantry Division
1st PA Infantry Division
31st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
51st PA Infantry Division
3rd/12th PA Inf Battalion
2nd PA Constabulary Regiment
I Philippine Corps
Cavite USN Base Force
Far East USAAF
USAFFE
II Philippine Corps
Manila USAAF Base Force
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
PAF Aviation
Subic Bay Defenses

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Ground combat at Mersing (51,82)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6480 troops, 35 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 260

Defending force 85 troops, 6 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 182

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 182 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mersing !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
II./4th Infantry Battalion
III/81st Naval Guard Unit
2nd Recon Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
16th Naval Guard Unit
I/81st Naval Guard Unit
2nd Sasebo SNLF Coy
8th JAAF AF Coy

Defending units:
30 Battery/3 HAA

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Ground combat at Manado (75,99)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 668 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 1260 troops, 2 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Japanese adjusted assault: 10

Allied adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
4th Engineer Co
1st Indpt SNLF Coy

Defending units:
Manado Garrison Battalion
Manado Base Force

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Ground combat at Kavieng (106,122)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 584 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 129 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese adjusted assault: 10

Allied adjusted defense: 33

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
II/81st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
2/1st Ind Coy

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Ground combat at 85,49 (near Hankow)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50057 troops, 305 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1643

Defending force 19116 troops, 224 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 675

Allied adjusted assault: 630

Japanese adjusted defense: 612

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1146 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 120 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
4266 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 445 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 27 disabled
Guns lost 29 (1 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Assaulting units:
13th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
7th Chinese Corps
84th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
90th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army
21st Group Army

Defending units:
14th RGC Temp. Division
20th Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th RGC Temp. Division
58th Infantry Regiment
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
9th Armored Car Co
18th RGC Temp. Division
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Road Const Co

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 4:09:27 AM

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January 5th, 1942...a bad day for the Allies

My Nells find an allied convoy filled with troops...

Morning Air attack on TF, near Padang at 44,85

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Poelau Telo, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Buijskes, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Hong Peng, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
1286 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 19 (7 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
22 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
6 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 4:11:28 AM

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Chuhsein falls to the Empire

Ground combat at Chuhsien (88,56)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 5914 troops, 69 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 635

Defending force 4688 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Japanese adjusted assault: 154

Allied adjusted defense: 70

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chuhsien !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units pursuing 1

Allied ground losses:
874 casualties reported
Squads: 74 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 94 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
20th Recon Regiment
36th Division
1st Raiding Regiment
22nd/A Division
Yokosuka 3rd SNLF /1
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
88th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
3rd War Area
10th Group Army

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 4:12:55 AM

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Another battle won in China, and I finally get off my butt and seize Kavieng. Rabaul is next.

Ground combat at 88,45 (near Kaifeng)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11957 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 431

Defending force 654 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 386

Allied adjusted defense: 2

Japanese assault odds: 193 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
573 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
110th Division

Defending units:
89th Chinese Corps
51st Chinese Corps

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Ground combat at Kavieng (106,122)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 575 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 106 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Japanese adjusted assault: 11

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
II/81st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
2/1st Ind Coy

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 4:14:12 AM

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Landings go well at Kuantan and Ambon. Allied bombardment attempts fail. I should seize both next turn.

Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 418 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Defending force 3306 troops, 64 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion
Ambon Base Force

Defending units:
Bandasan SNLF
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
Sasebo 2nd SNLF /2
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd JNAF AF Unit

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Ground combat at Kuantan (51,79)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2248 troops, 13 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 106

Defending force 12940 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 450

Assaulting units:
22nd Indian Brigade
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
1st ISF Base Force

Defending units:
4th Division

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 5:57:18 AM

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I'm arriving late to this thread, but I wanted to express my enthusiasm for a sub-centered AAR. Lately I've been playing the solitaire boardgame "Silent War," with its "IJN" expansion. That game puts you in the role of the US submarine commander for the Pacific. You have tonnage targets that you have to meet; otherwise you're relieved. E.g., 90,000 tons by March 1. I'll be curious to see what the Allied tonnage is in your game as of that date, so if you happen to have an estimate, please post it!

Anyway, great AAR! Subscribed.

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 5:27:09 PM

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January 6th sees a successful submarine attack near Port Moresby. One of my old RO-subs takes out a small freighter. The escort does some depth charging but damage to my sub is minimal.

Sub attack near Port Moresby at 97,131

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63, hits 1

Allied Ships
xAKL Darvel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Moresby

SS RO-63 launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Darvel
RO-63 diving deep ....
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-63 eludes PG Moresby by diving deep
Escort abandons search for sub
Darvel sunk. 1700 tons.

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 5:30:57 PM

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Kuantan and Ambon fall.

Ground combat at Kuantan (51,79)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 12940 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 450

Defending force 3067 troops, 42 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 105

Japanese adjusted assault: 417

Allied adjusted defense: 61

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuantan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), op mode(-), leaders(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2558 casualties reported
Squads: 118 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 176 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 38 (36 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 32 (32 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Division

Defending units:
22nd Indian Brigade
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
1st ISF Base Force

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Ground combat at Ambon (76,109)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2605 troops, 54 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 94

Defending force 2046 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Japanese adjusted assault: 61

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ambon !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2230 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 109 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
III/66th Naval Guard Unit
Bandasan SNLF
Sasebo 2nd SNLF
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd JNAF AF Unit

Defending units:
Molukken Garrison Battalion
4th Coastal Gun Battalion
Ambon Base Force

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/15/2012 5:35:00 PM

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The tonnage war:

US Submarines have sunk 0 ships for 0 tons. All torpedoes have been misses or duds, even from the S-boats.
Dutch submarines have sunk 1xDD, 1xPB, 4xAK for 26,523 tons.
Japanese submarines have sunk 1xAVD, 1xAP, 4xAKL, 2xTK, 2xAVP, 1xAO for 30,335 tons

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/16/2012 6:06:06 PM

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Not much submariny happened today. Main thing was the loss of Ichang to Chinese hordes, as he finally brought enough to expel me. Complicated fighting in this general area, I'll take a screenshot later.

Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 76675 troops, 526 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1956

Defending force 15569 troops, 140 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 437

Allied adjusted assault: 2244

Japanese adjusted defense: 163

Allied assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ichang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5503 casualties reported
Squads: 130 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 211 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 48 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 81 (76 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 39 (38 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 3

Allied ground losses:
1756 casualties reported
Squads: 67 destroyed, 128 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 42 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 22 (3 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
67th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
39th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army
33rd Group Army

Defending units:
34th Division
14th Ind.Mixed Brigade
13th RGC Temp. Division

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/17/2012 4:43:48 AM

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Shoho has been commissioned. As soon as a proper DD escort is in place, she will head south to Truk to join Zuiho, Taiyo, and Ruyjo as part of the Support Carrier Force (abbreviated SCF, colloquiually known as mini-KB). She will relieve Hosho, which is heading back to Japan for service as a training carrier, aircraft transport, and ASW platform. SCF will provide aircover for operations at Rabaul and the eastern tip of New Guinea.

KB is finishing up covering the Ambon operation. Depending on the state of the ships and fatigue level of the pilots and air frames, KB will either go hunting in the DEI or withdraw to a safe harbor for a few days before supporting the next stages of conquest.

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/17/2012 3:51:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: FDRLincoln

Shoho has been commissioned. As soon as a proper DD escort is in place, she will head south to Truk to join Zuiho, Taiyo, and Ruyjo�as part of the Support Carrier Force (abbreviated SCF,�colloquiually known as mini-KB).�She will relieve Hosho, which is heading back to Japan for service as a training carrier, aircraft transport, and ASW platform. SCF will provide aircover for operations at Rabaul and the eastern tip of New Guinea.

Although this was a real war use of these small CVs and CVEs for the IJN, where do you feel you have need of ASW air that can't be reached from land, and couldn't an AV provide the same more effectively with a less important and useful asset?

As for training groups for CV use, I guess this could be useful, but it's so small that you'd almost have to split groups to do it.

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/17/2012 5:14:37 PM

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He has several submarines in the Yellow Sea and prowling around the Sea of Japan and the Fifth Fleet area in the Kuriles. Although I have land-based ASW air assets, I need some of these aircraft deployed forward�as well...I don't seem to have enough light bombers and float planes to give all the coverage I want. I have some AVs in the build/convert queue.

I try to have a realistic style of play. In real life Hosho's small size made it�very difficult�for her to operate modern aircraft, so I don't plan to use her the same way I am using my other small carriers.�I have her stocked with Claudes and Jeans right now. My plan to use her as a training carrier is to train individual pilots up to a decent level, then stick them in the�Reserve and transfer them as individuals to carrier squadrons as needed.�

< Message edited by FDRLincoln -- 3/17/2012 5:15:11 PM >

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/17/2012 5:46:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: FDRLincoln

He has several submarines in the Yellow Sea and prowling around the Sea of Japan and the Fifth Fleet area in the Kuriles. Although I have land-based ASW air assets, I need some of these aircraft deployed forward�as well...I don't seem to have enough light bombers and float planes to give all the coverage I want. I have some AVs in the build/convert queue.

I try to have a realistic style of play. In real life Hosho's small size made it�very difficult�for her to operate modern aircraft, so I don't plan to use her the same way I am using my other small carriers.�I have her stocked with Claudes and Jeans right now. My plan to use her as a training carrier is to train individual pilots up to a decent level, then stick them in the�Reserve and transfer them as individuals to carrier squadrons as needed.�

For training I'm sure this will work fine for individual pilots, but you could just leave them on land as well. In terms of carrier skill this is a group skill feature only applicable if the group is on the carrier training. Sorry if you already were assuming this and just stating the other use of her as a simple airfield for training normally.

She'll be a target in the ASW role and will likely attract a full spread of torpedoes should she encounter subs. I feel at risk EVERY time I've moved CVs out of port in my game as I've already had about 7 attacks against CVs with 3 torpedoes taken in spite of the poor quality ordnance of early war US subs.

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RE: Submarines in the Pacific: FDRLincoln (Japan) vs. B... - 3/17/2012 6:28:14 PM

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That's a good point about her being a target. I don't mean to be complacent. Right now it is Jan 8th 1942 in our game and EVERY SINGLE US TORPEDO has been a dud or a miss, even from S-boats with the Mark 10 torps. There is no way that will last.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/18/2012 5:49:08 PM

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Here is the situation near Ichang.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/18/2012 5:51:15 PM

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Lots of maneuvering around Ichang and Hankow

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/18/2012 6:19:00 PM

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The troops in the clear between Sinyang and Hankow are dead meat if you bomb them extensively. And get some armor in there. Clear hexes and Chinese units don't mix well.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/18/2012 6:26:18 PM

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Yeah I have been bombing them every day, and there is armor on the way. There are over 100,000 Chinese in that hex and I've only got about 20,000, however my troops are much better quality and are well-supplied.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/19/2012 5:38:42 PM

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Good to see you back in the game!

I will follow this one surely and cheer for you!

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/19/2012 5:44:12 PM

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Hey Aztez! Good to see you. Thanks for the support.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/19/2012 10:45:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: FDRLincoln

Yeah I have been bombing them every day, and there is armor on the way. There are over 100,000 Chinese in that hex and I've only got about 20,000, however my troops are much better quality and are well-supplied.

I bet you'll be fine. I would welcome an attack if his troops are even slightly disabled by the air strikes.

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RE: situation at Ichang/Hankow - 3/20/2012 3:21:26 PM

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Nothing submariny happened last turn and not much happening in China last turn, although my campaign to dislodge some Chinese units off a northern railline in the mountains made some progress.

The big news was an inconclusive cruiser battle near Kavieng. I lost a destroyer and he (reportedly) lost the cruiser Perth. More details later.

Haruna reached Hong Kong, where the shipyard reports it will take three months to restore her to fully operational status. It's OK...she sank the Prince of Wales.

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us sub finally hits something - 3/20/2012 5:28:19 PM

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The captain of USS Sealion gets sick of duds and deactivates his magnetic exploder.

Submarine attack near Hakodate at 121,54

Japanese Ships
xAK Dainiti Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Sealion

xAK Dainiti Maru is sighted by SS Sealion
SS Sealion launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Dainiti Maru
Dainiti Maru sunk, 2750 tons.
She was empty at least. No cargo or supplies lost.

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cruiser battle - 3/20/2012 5:31:01 PM

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A cruiser battle near Kavieng results in the loss of IJN destroyer Kisaragi and Australian CL Perth (confirmed by my opponent)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 08, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kavieng at 106,123, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Furutaka
CA Kako, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi
DD Uzuki
DD Oite
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1
CA Pensacola
CA Australia
CA Canberra
CL Leander, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Achilles
CL Perth, Shell hits 1
DD Stuart
DD Voyager
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 2

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 64% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Dechaineaux, E.F.V. crosses the 'T'
CA Louisville engages CA Furutaka at 11,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Louisville at 11,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Louisville at 11,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tenryu at 11,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CL Achilles at 11,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CL Leander at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Kako engages CL Leander at 7,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Australia at 7,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Kinugasa at 7,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 7,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tenryu at 7,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Hayate at 7,000 yards
DD Oite engages CL Leander at 7,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Uzuki at 7,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 7,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Kisaragi at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Kako at 3,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Australia at 3,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Kinugasa at 3,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Aoba at 3,000 yards
CL Perth engages CL Tenryu at 3,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 3,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 3,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Hayate at 3,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kisaragi at 3,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Le Triomphant at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Kako engages CA Canberra at 6,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Furutaka at 6,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Pensacola at 6,000 yards
CA Kako engages CA Louisville at 6,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Kinugasa at 6,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 6,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Uzuki at 6,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Yayoi at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Kako engages CA Pensacola at 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Furutaka at 12,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Kinugasa at 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CL Tenryu at 12,000 yards
CA Kako engages CL Perth at 12,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Stuart at 12,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Stuart at 12,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Kavieng at 106,122, Range 23,000 Yards

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Seagull V: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 7, heavy fires
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 2
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CA Kako
CL Tenryu
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 1
DD Uzuki
DD Oite, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hayate, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Pensacola, Shell hits 1
CA Australia, Shell hits 1
CA Canberra
CL Leander, Shell hits 1
CL Achilles
CL Perth, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Stuart
DD Voyager, Shell hits 1
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 1, on fire

Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CL Achilles at 23,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Furutaka at 23,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Aoba at 23,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Furutaka at 23,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CL Leander at 23,000 yards
CL Perth engages DD Yayoi at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Canberra at 17,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Pensacola at 17,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Louisville at 17,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CL Perth at 17,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CL Leander at 17,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 13,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Furutaka at 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 13,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Hayate at 13,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Stuart at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Furutaka at 8,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Kinugasa at 8,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Aoba at 8,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Kinugasa at 8,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Achilles at 8,000 yards
CL Leander engages DD Oite at 8,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
CL Perth engages DD Yayoi at 8,000 yards
CL Perth engages DD Kisaragi at 8,000 yards
Sawa, Masao orders Japanese TF to disengage
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Canberra at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 10,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Furutaka at 10,000 yards
CL Achilles engages DD Hayate at 10,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Oite at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Le Triomphant at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Stuart at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 12,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 12,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 12,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Aoba at 12,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Tenryu at 12,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Kinugasa at 12,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Oite at 12,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Aoba at 15,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Furutaka at 15,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Louisville at 15,000 yards
DD Hayate engages DD Voyager at 15,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Oite at 15,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yayoi at 15,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Voyager at 15,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Stuart at 15,000 yards
Range increases to 18,000 yards
CA Furutaka engages CA Australia at 18,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Furutaka at 18,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 18,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 18,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CL Tenryu at 18,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Uzuki at 18,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yayoi at 18,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kisaragi at 18,000 yards
Range increases to 22,000 yards
CA Louisville engages CA Kinugasa at 22,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Aoba at 22,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Furutaka at 22,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Hayate at 22,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Oite at 22,000 yards
CA Louisville engages DD Uzuki at 22,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Kisaragi at 22,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CL Tenryu at 27,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CL Tenryu at 27,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages CA Aoba at 27,000 yards
CA Pensacola engages DD Uzuki at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Yayoi at 27,000 yards
CA Canberra engages DD Kisaragi at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 28,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 28,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Pensacola at 28,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Louisville at 28,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Oite at 28,000 yards
Task forces break off...

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cruiser battle+ us submarine finally hits something - 3/20/2012 5:33:10 PM

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A couple of my cruisers are beat up but will make it to Truk. Enemy reports cruiser Louisville is beat up but will survive.

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RE: cruiser battle+ us submarine finally hits something - 3/20/2012 6:10:43 PM

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Observant readers may note that the IJN destroyers present in this battle were obsolete types, and the CAs were my four oldest/weakest. They acquitted themselves well considering the Allied force was somewhat stronger.

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ASW effort bears fruit - 3/20/2012 10:33:57 PM

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Loss of US submarine Stingray just showed up in the sunk ship report. This would coincide with an apparently successful ASW attack in the shallow water of the Yellow Sea a few turns ago. It could be FOW, but the combat animation showed this submarine getting pounded pretty bad, and she's a long way from home.

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A bloody day - 3/21/2012 6:27:52 PM

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1/10/1942 was a very bloody day. First, a pair of submarine attacks.
Submarine attack near Toyama at 113,56

Japanese Ships
xAK Mantai Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Salmon

xAK Mantai Maru is sighted by SS Salmon
SS Salmon launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Mantai Maru
This ship was carrying resources. It has 50 sys and float damage but is just one hex from harbor and may survive

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Sub attack near Milne Bay at 99,134

Japanese Ships
SS I-16

Allied Ships
xAKL Hamakua, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Moresby

Massive explosion on xAKL Hamakua
SS I-16 launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Hamakua
I-16 diving deep ....
PG Moresby attacking submerged sub ....
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby fails to find sub, continues to search...
PG Moresby attacking submerged sub ....
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby attacking submerged sub ....
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
PG Moresby is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub

No confirmation of a sinking here

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RE: A bloody day - 3/21/2012 6:30:17 PM

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A squadron of old destroyers on a nighttime sweep destroys a tanker.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 48,91, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Minekaze
DD Asagao
DD Fuyo
DD Karukaya
DD Kuri

Allied Ships
TK Strix, Shell hits 26, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

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