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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/12/2012 10:20:51 PM   
Smeulders

 

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IIRC the CMF Inf squads are much better than the CMF Militia squads (I might have the names a bit wrong). Any upgrading you can get from Militia to Inf increases the anti-soft of the squads quite a bit.



not enough CMF squads around to upgrade the divisions. Only if I would disband a unit filled up with CMF squads but then I would be better off disbanding one rgt of the two arriving Aus Divs. Both options could be done within a couple of days though.


Disbanding parts of the divisions arriving in Aden doesn't seem like the best move to me. These units are pretty experienced, disbanding parts of them to be refilled later will lower that exp. The units in Australia are bad to begin with so rebuilding them won't hurt them. The second reason is that units in Australia are restricted, as long as there isn't a massive invasion of Australia, you're not going to be using all of them anyway, so you might as well use them as a replacement pool for your other units (though it's starting to look like you might be fighting on Australian soil soon).


Yeah, disbanding a rgt of the Aden divs wouldn't be the best one could do but if bluebook really goes for Australia then I need those AIF42 squads as those are 50% better than the CMF militia. Have found an easier way to do it though, got three dozen AIF42 squads in the pool and can upgrade an uderstrenght bgd using those squads. Then I am going to disband the bgd in Sydney which will bring my squads to something like 70-75 which is enough to upgrade a division every couple of days.



Yes, this is the way to do it all the way through. Upgrade smaller units like lark and gull. Then after filling them up and upgrading them disband them. The extra squads will go into the pool as upgraded squads and you can then start upgrading full divisions by doing it a brigade at a time. Realistically you are looking towards using Australian units on the offensive in 1944. With careful disbanding and considering the pitiful replacement rate and PP costs you can sustain about 4 active divisions in combat. This should be your goal. Once there is no threat to OZ focus on building four good divisions. The fully upgraded 1944 Australian divisions are very powerful and loaded with support. Very good units but you have to be very careful about replacements. Does not help that they use commonwealth devices of which there are never enough.

So many players go to great pains to reconstruct the lost Singapore brigades and divisions but quite frankly it is a waste of time and resources. Focus on building up the units you already have. You will eventually have more than you can use anyways. What with PP costs, I am in mid 44 and only have about three Australian divisions and one or two NZ brigade bought out. Just too many demands on my precious PPs.


PP costs are the reason I do rebuild the Singapore division from the bird battalions. Together with the 3 divisions that arrive in Aden over the course of the first years that gives you 4 unrestricted Ozzie divisions without any PP cost. It does help that I never got attacked in Australia and didn't need to fill out the restricted divisions of course ...

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/12/2012 10:58:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, that would work. But if you have a serious fight in Oz and take losses then the choices become harder. I bought back the bird battalions in 44 but only because I needed some more small garrison and invasion units. Never did recombine them.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/15/2012 3:05:00 PM   
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Submarine attack near Manus at 101,119

Japanese Ships
xAK Marei Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV



xAK Marei Maru is sighted by SS KXV
SS KXV attacking xAK Marei Maru on the surface

that surface engagement saw the Dutch sub go wild, putting no less than three torps into the freighter...

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Sub attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAKL Yosyu Maru
xAKL Tensyo Maru
PB Akitsui Maru

Allied Ships
SS KX

followed by the next Dutch sub missing...


SS KX launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Yosyu Maru
KX bottoming out ....
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Caroline Island (178,164)

TF 32 troops unloading over beach at Caroline Island, 178,164

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



81mm Mortar dropped into water during unload of 51st Nav Gd
12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 51st Nav Gd


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Amphibious Assault at Broome (62,127)

TF 168 troops unloading over beach at Broome, 62,127

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



7.7mm T99 AAMG lost overboard during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF /2
12 Support troops lost overboard during unload of Kure 2nd SNLF

enemy landing at Broome, not unexpected... the overall picture is getting clearer and clearer...

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Morning Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 68
G3M2 Nell x 7
G4M1 Betty x 36



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 3 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
36 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
7 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
39 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...


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Morning Air attack on Singapore Fortress, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 34



Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

while the enemy is still occupied with Singergrad he lands his first troops on Australia's coast...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 108 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 14



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-35
PT-34
PT Q-113
PT Q-111



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 24
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 74
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 22 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking AHQ Far East ...
Also attacking Malayan Air Wing ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 223 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 224 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 22nd Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking 111th RAF Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 112th RAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore ...


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 29



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 12 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 109th RN Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 1st ISF Base Force ...
Also attacking Singapore ...


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-36 Ida x 11



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged



Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAKL Yosyu Maru
xAKL Tensyo Maru
xAKL Oridono Maru
PB Akitsui Maru

Allied Ships
SS KX



SS KX is sighted by escort
KX bottoming out ....
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Tofua (139,167)

TF 237 troops unloading over beach at Tofua, 139,167

I don't even know these bases in the South Pacific, mostly only dots left...



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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 82299 troops, 957 guns, 332 vehicles, Assault Value = 2184

Defending force 37833 troops, 415 guns, 286 vehicles, Assault Value = 316

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1457

Allied adjusted defense: 783

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2974 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 248 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 80 disabled
Guns lost 44 (1 destroyed, 43 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
1405 casualties reported
Squads: 68 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 276 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 66 (46 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (6 destroyed, 16 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

can you believe this? our defenders still hold and bluebook again suffers a defeat here... only a couple of days until the real life surrender date and we were able to hold for weeks, inflicting quite some losses to the enemy who initially attacked with more than 3100 av and reinforced his Army during the siege... excellent defense of my doomed forces here...

Assaulting units:
5th Division
II./4th Infantry Battalion
55th Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
56th Engineer Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
21st Division
12th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
56th Infantry Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
25th Army
5th Mortar Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
27th Australian Brigade
11th Indian Division
SSVF Brigade
9th Indian Division
2nd ISF Base Force
III Indian Corps
2nd Loyal Battalion
224 Group RAF
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
1st Hyderabad Battalion
Malayan Air Wing
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Malay Battalion
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
110th RAF Base Force
FMSV Brigade
223 Group RAF
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
111th RAF Base Force
2nd Gordons Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st ISF Base Force
Malaya Army
109th RAF Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Singapore Fortress
112th RAF Base Force
AHQ Far East
1st Manchester Battalion
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Malaybalay (80,90)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 9731 troops, 96 guns, 28 vehicles, Assault Value = 294

Defending force 5696 troops, 23 guns, 50 vehicles, Assault Value = 193

Japanese adjusted assault: 87

Allied adjusted defense: 274

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1093 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled


Allied ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

I really like the performance of my strongholds... I am sure bluebook planned to overrun the SRA far faster with far less losses...

Assaulting units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
15th Naval Guard Unit
146th Infantry Regiment
91st Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
3rd PA Constabulary Regiment
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
1st /101st PA Battalion
103rd PA Infantry Regiment
3rd/101st PA Battalion
Cagayan USAAF Base Force
III Philippine Corps
2nd/101st PA Battalion


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Ground combat at Caroline Island (178,164)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1249 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 27

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Caroline Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit




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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/15/2012 3:23:21 PM   
castor troy


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Sub attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAK Ryoka Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAK Nisso Maru

Allied Ships
SS KX

after missing a freighter yesterday KX hits one today setting the ship afire... usually the freighter is doomed... a hell a lot of shipping at Koepang, obviously reinforcing the base and convoys seem to go here to meet for their move to Australia's North Coast... wonder how this all will turn out...

SS KX launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Ryoka Maru
KX bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 55 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-34
PT-32



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B4Y1 Jean x 17
B5N1 Kate x 68



Japanese aircraft losses
B4Y1 Jean: 1 damaged
B5N1 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
39 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B4Y1 Jean bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 63
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 39



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 20 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 10 damaged


Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Malayan Air Wing ...
Also attacking III Indian Corps ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking AHQ Far East ...
Also attacking 111th RAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 27th Australian Brigade ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 224 Group RAF ...
Also attacking Singapore ...
Also attacking 109th RAF Base Force ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore ...


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged


Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

I have turned all base forces at Clark Field to take replacements and they do have an awful lot of AA guns now but this doesn't help at all as the enemy is flying airattacks 99% of the days without any pause and this keeps my base forces so heavily disrupted that they do literally nothing... guess the enemy hasn't even lost halve a dozen bombers over Clark Field while flying probably two or three thousand sorties... not only this, having such a high number of AA guns the supply consumption is exceptionally high... put everything together and it was a real mistake to turn replacements on for the base forces...


Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 19



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged



Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 223 Group RAF ...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT Q-111
PT-35



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 18
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 8 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
18 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Basilan (75,90)

TF 202 troops unloading over beach at Basilan, 75,90





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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3831 troops, 284 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 1971

Defending force 35258 troops, 380 guns, 278 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

the enemy reverts to bombardment again, resting the troops until the next attack... the daily airfield attacks the enemy has started some time ago prevent any fort building... guess he could be done already if he had started his airfield attacks from day one what he didn't so we rebuilt forts at least two times...


Assaulting units:
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
56th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
2nd Engineer Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
II./4th Infantry Battalion
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
5th Division
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
25th Army
3rd Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
11th Indian Division
9th Indian Division
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
27th Australian Brigade
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Malaya Army
1st ISF Base Force
109th RAF Base Force
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
110th RAF Base Force
1st Manchester Battalion
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
Malayan Air Wing
2nd ISF Base Force
111th RAF Base Force
112th RAF Base Force
22nd Australian Brigade
Singapore Fortress
SSVF Brigade
2nd Loyal Battalion
1st Hyderabad Battalion
FMSV Brigade
224 Group RAF
223 Group RAF
III Indian Corps
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
2nd Gordons Battalion
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
AHQ Far East
Singapore Base Force
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Tofua (139,167)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 326 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tofua !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Niuafo'ou (141,160)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 709 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 5

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Niuafo'ou !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
53rd Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Broome (62,127)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1429 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 25

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Broome !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: fatigue(-)



Assaulting units:
Kure 2nd SNLF


Broome is Japanese, the valuable RAN base force has been moved out earlier when it became apparent that the enemy is aiming at (Northern) Australia... naval support is quite precious in Australia at this stage of the war so not losing that unit is good... the base force was split into three separate units which were ordered to recombine on day one of the war...

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Amphibious Assault at Madang (97,123)

TF 304 troops unloading over beach at Madang, 97,123





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Amphibious Assault at Anatom (120,159)

TF 337 troops unloading over beach at Anatom, 120,159





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Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,94

Japanese Ships
xAK Daigen Maru

Allied Ships
SS O23



xAK Daigen Maru is sighted by SS O23
SS O23 attacking on the surface
Valkenburg, A.M. decides to submerge SS O23 due to damage

I love it, I really love it... look below how DAMAGED the sub is... no matter what I am told, while I accept the explanation that it is due to not enough agression of the sub skipper, I still think that it is laughable... why on Earth would a sub skipper not attack an unescorted freighter? there just isn't a reason at all... and if it happens, it should happen once a year but not four times a month...

seriously, like my rants or not but please don't tell me that this is something that can be called realistic and all it needs is adjusting the routine that in general is thought out quite well but the variables put in were wrong... the sub would attack submerged just fine, but due to attacking surfaced this routine kicks in and prevents the sub from attacking and saves the freighter... so what I have said earlier could not be more correct, having no escort is actually an advantage for the IJN freighters which is really laughable...

and to put not the best skippers into subs but the aggressive ones may be a workaround but it still doesn't change the fact that this routine just isn't working as it should and in all seriousness, I think the one that came up with it thought it would work different...







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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Hokusho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O24

followed by the yet again ridicoulos broken off attack by O23, her sister O24 enters Palembang and sinks a freighter... could be two by now today...


xAK Hokusho Maru is sighted by SS O24
SS O24 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Hokusho Maru


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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Kusuyama Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O24

O24 attacks again and destroys another freighter... well done!

xAK Kusuyama Maru is sighted by SS O24
SS O24 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kusuyama Maru


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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
AO Notoro, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O24

two freighters in a row and then O24 attacks a fleet oiler to set it afire... wow, three ships probably sunk, what an attack...

AO Notoro is sighted by SS O24
SS O24 launches 4 torpedoes


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 22



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 13

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Madang at 97,123

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Malacca Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

an enemy convoy was spotted moving towards Madang and we have ordered the 40+ Marauders to attack again... the TF is spotted and a whopping 4!! bombers launch... the enemy convoy will arrive at it's destination without being wiped out even though it would be substantial to attack all shipping in this vital area with maximum effort... can't do more than to put agressive commanders into my bomber groups and set them to attack...

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT Q-111
PT-35
PT-41



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT-31
PT-32
PT-34



Aircraft Attacking:
9 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 28
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Sub attack near Broome at 63,124

Japanese Ships
xAK Oigawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL Yosyu Maru
xAKL Oridono Maru
PB Akitsui Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-18, hits 5

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

a couple of subs have been ordered into the Broome area to deal with the enemy convoys... S-18 sights a troop convoy and sinks a small freighter while taking some damage... sub has to retire...

SS S-18 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Oigawa Maru
S-18 bottoming out ....
PB Akitsui Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Akitsui Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Akitsui Maru is out of ASW ammo
PB Akitsui Maru is out of ASW ammo
PB Akitsui Maru is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Flint Island (175,166)

TF 32 troops unloading over beach at Flint Island, 175,166

Japanese ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



10 troops of a SNLF HMG Section lost from landing craft during unload of 51st Nav Gd
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost in surf during unload of 51st Nav Gd


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Amphibious Assault at Toboali (50,93)

TF 258 troops unloading over beach at Toboali, 50,93





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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3861 troops, 284 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 2074

Defending force 35526 troops, 378 guns, 278 vehicles, Assault Value = 283

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Allied ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
56th Engineer Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
41st Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
5th Division
33rd Division
148th Infantry Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Recon Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
II./4th Infantry Battalion
56th Infantry Regiment
21st Division
24th Infantry Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
1st RF Gun Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
56th Field Artillery Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
25th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
11th Indian Division
SSVF Brigade
9th Indian Division
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
22nd Australian Brigade
109th RAF Base Force
223 Group RAF
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hyderabad Battalion
III Indian Corps
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
110th RAF Base Force
2nd Loyal Battalion
AHQ Far East
27th Australian Brigade
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
112th RAF Base Force
Singapore Fortress
111th RAF Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
1st Manchester Battalion
FMSV Brigade
Malaya Army
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
Malayan Air Wing
1st ISF Base Force
2nd Gordons Battalion
224 Group RAF
2nd ISF Base Force
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Flint Island (175,166)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1231 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 6

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Flint Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit






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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/15/2012 4:06:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		And here another interesting observation. I know there are ppl around that think all my rants or critics (or whatever you want to call it) are taken out of the blue and have no basis at all. Many times I think that ppl just don't look exactly enough, aren't really interested or just fail to notice what is going on. I have my pet peeves and the one mentioned here isn't one of them but I thought I could still show it.

We have had O24 driving home the most succesful sub attack of the war so far and there won't be many more succesful ones I guess so sinking two freighters and a fleet oiler in one night should IMO result in some experience increase. Ok, thought it would be worth it to look up O24 in tracker to see what happened... what happened? nothing... so much about the experience routines, lol...





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Status: offline 		I've actually seen pretty decent experience gains for some ships after a successful battle, but the caveat is that it was against other warships. For subs who'll mostly be shooting at merchants you're not going to see a lot of improvement.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/15/2012 10:35:59 PM   
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Except, isn't that the whole point of submariners - that they shoot at merchants?



One would hope but not if they are escorted in AE. What really surprises me is not that CT's attacks on the surface are lackluster but that his opponent sees the need to ever send out ships without escorts. Even a lone crap PB will draw a sub attack away from the merchants most of the time. And the sub will usually miss the escort.

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I've actually seen pretty decent experience gains for some ships after a successful battle, but the caveat is that it was against other warships. For subs who'll mostly be shooting at merchants you're not going to see a lot of improvement.



"ships" yeah, but subs? I have had subs hitting enemy carriers and they gained nothing. Don't know what's the story behind.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 8:48:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: paullus99

Except, isn't that the whole point of submariners - that they shoot at merchants?



One would hope but not if they are escorted in AE. What really surprises me is not that CT's attacks on the surface are lackluster but that his opponent sees the need to ever send out ships without escorts. Even a lone crap PB will draw a sub attack away from the merchants most of the time. And the sub will usually miss the escort.


bluebook has an awful lot of convoys moving around but yeah, he probably could scrape a PB for every convoy. But why should he, my subs are toothless dorks anyway if they attack unescorted convoys.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 12:12:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I've actually seen pretty decent experience gains for some ships after a successful battle, but the caveat is that it was against other warships. For subs who'll mostly be shooting at merchants you're not going to see a lot of improvement.



"ships" yeah, but subs? I have had subs hitting enemy carriers and they gained nothing. Don't know what's the story behind.



On the ships issue I was actually bowled over at how much night xp was gained by one particular ship in my last game. I normally don't pay meticulous detail to ship crew experience gains, but took notice one day that the Detroit had a night xp value of 65 by late fall '42.

Not knowing what it started with I mistakenly believed that it must have started somewhere near that value and took note to be sure to get it in action as a light SAG leader early on in my next game. I started the next game and examind the Detroit's game start xp value and was very surprised to discover that it starts with a night xp value of 35.

I can't recall how many surface fights it participated in during the prior game to get an increase of 30 points in 9 months, but I do tend to be very aggressive with small light SAGs and tend to lead them with the CLs that have very low AA values as I see them as primarily surface combatants since they suck as carrier escorts.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 12:36:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		yup, you can bring up your ships experience levels, they just have to survive those battles you send them in inexperienced, which is a hard task if you consider you need 3 or 4 succesful engagements against an enemy at least equal in numbers to actually reach the enemy's experience. A single fight can give you more than a dozen points depending on where experience is when you start the engagement. But overall, you won't hit the enemy's experience levels with your ships that start out the war or come in as reinforcements until mid 44. Those then suddenly are night battle super heros.

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I can't recall how many surface fights it participated in during the prior game to get an increase of 30 points in 9 months, but I do tend to be very aggressive with small light SAGs and tend to lead them with the CLs that have very low AA values as I see them as primarily surface combatants since they suck as carrier escorts.


I'm uber-aggressive with surface combatants, almost insanely so - my 1942 era warships are still terribly inexperienced in 1944 though. Even being hugely aggressive the number of cruisers likely to experience multiple surface battles, and survive them all, is pretty slim.

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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
AO Tsurumi
TK San Pedro Maru
TK Hoyo Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Hakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-38



SS S-38 is sighted by escort
DD Numakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Numakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Numakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Roti at 65,119

Japanese Ships
xAK Gyoko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Nisso Maru
DD Asagao

Allied Ships
SS Truant

Truant finds another victim...

SS Truant launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Gyoko Maru
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Broome at 62,127

Japanese Ships
DD Shikinami
xAK Oridono Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-35, hits 6

but S-35 is out of action and retires with medium damage...

SS S-35 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Shikinami
DD Shikinami attacking submerged sub ....
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Shikinami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Roti at 65,119

Japanese Ships
xAK Gyoko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Truant

Truant then wastes another torp on a sinking target...

xAK Gyoko Maru is sighted by SS Truant
SS Truant launches 2 torpedoes


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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Allied Ships
SS S-38



SS S-38 is sighted by escort
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Madang at 97,123

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ganges Maru

Allied Ships
SS O19, hits 1, on fire



xAKL Ganges Maru is sighted by SS O19
SS O19 attacking xAKL Ganges Maru on the surface
Kolling, H.F.B. decides to submerge SS O19 due to damage

and more unescorted freighters show more of the stupidity... anyone want to see the DAMAGE of the sub? nevermind, the issue is obviously enough I guess...

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Submarine attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
xAK Ryoka Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-38



xAK Ryoka Maru is sighted by SS S-38
SS S-38 launches 2 torpedoes

then the next freighter is missed...
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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Hikosan Maru

Allied Ships
SS O23



xAK Hikosan Maru is sighted by SS O23
SS O23 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Hikosan Maru

same for O23...
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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Kurohime Maru

Allied Ships
SS O23, hits 1



xAK Kurohime Maru is sighted by SS O23
SS O23 attacking xAK Kurohime Maru on the surface
Valkenburg, A.M. decides to submerge SS O23 due to damage

hurrey, a truly borked routine... what gives, realism tells you this shouldn't happen as it does in the game, no sub skipper in WWII would have run from unescorted freighters all the time! NO SUB SKIPPER WOULD HAVE DONE THIS! Now go figure what is wrong, the sub skippers agressiveness ratings or the routine taking those agg ratings into account... but noone to tell me this would be realistic... and choosing idiot skippers not able to command a sub is just something that makes me

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Busuanga at 77,80

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Kolambugan, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

pity the small freighter didn't make it to Bataan as she made it there three times earlier...

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Kolambugan


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Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 57



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
34 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
23 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 19



No Japanese losses



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 49
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 14 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Extreme overcast

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Madang at 97,123

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9



Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 10


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Hiyori Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

we kept our 40+ Marauders on low nav attack as I wasn't happy about this convoy unloading in the area but today the enemy has ordered Zeroes from Rabaul to LRCAP the ships and the Zeroes achieve quite a result flying LRCAP from no less than 10 hexes and there surely aren't that many there at Rabaul... the Marauders take it on the chin but manage to probably sink one of the xAKL... if just more of the bombers would fly... with only 2 min pre warning time the Zeroes did very well against the fast medium bombers at 1000ft as two B-26 were outright shot down...

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
Okamoto Det with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead



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Afternoon Air attack on 9th Indian Division, at 50,84 (Singapore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...
Also attacking Singapore Fortress ...
Also attacking 9th Indian Division ...


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Madang at 97,123

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8



Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Ganges Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Yanagigawa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires

another dozen bombers attack in the afternoon, hitting two freighters for unknown damage... bomb damage being halved in this mod I am not sure if a single 500lb bomb is enough to sink a xAKL... we pay with two more B-26 shot down and another one being a write off, making it a total of 5 bombers lost which is a little tragedy as there are no replacements at all yet...

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
Okamoto Det with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead




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Sub attack near Madang at 97,123

Japanese Ships
xAK Nitiai Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS O19



SS O19 attacking xAK Nitiai Maru on the surface
Kolling, H.F.B. decides to submerge SS O19 due to damage

what can one say, at least this time the sub fired a torp before breaking off...

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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Kamikaze
AO Tsurumi
TK San Pedro Maru
TK San Diego Maru
TK Hoyo Maru
DD Numakaze
DD Hakaze

Allied Ships
SS S-38



SS S-38 launches 4 torpedoes at DD Kamikaze
DD Numakaze fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Hakaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Broome at 62,127

Japanese Ships
xAKL Yosyu Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-35



SS S-35 is sighted by escort
Escort abandons search for sub


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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 82430 troops, 978 guns, 351 vehicles, Assault Value = 2156

Defending force 35779 troops, 377 guns, 278 vehicles, Assault Value = 294

Japanese adjusted assault: 1679

Allied adjusted defense: 415

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2415 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 193 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 48 disabled
Guns lost 26 (2 destroyed, 24 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
27151 casualties reported
Squads: 529 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4153 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 157 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 441 (441 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 414 (414 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 32

finally, deliberate attack number 8 or 9 finally overruns the brave defenders of Singapore... we were holding out until 9th Feb, historical surrender was 15th Feb so we did quite well here considering how many units bluebook sent here to take this important base... losses for us of course are enormous but we just have to live with those units on Malaya, Java and the Philipines being lost...

we inflicted exceptional losses on the enemy though, counting up combat squads destroyed we are at roughly 620 enemy combat squads destroyed, with many more being disabled (and back in action soon)... haven't counted the support squads and guns, in total the enemy surely had more than 1000 squads destroyed... bluebook's reactions about the fight at Singergrad clearly showed that he wasn't really amused about how this was going, which is quite understandable... not only the losses within his troops, the delay of his further offensives probably even more so are not according to IJ plans... the weeks of delay at Singapore may be exactly those weeks we need elsewhere to stiffen our defense to a level it gets not as easy for the IJ as it is within the SRA when we fight on lost ground anyway...

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
41st Infantry Regiment
12th Engineer Regiment
23rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
5th Division
II./4th Infantry Battalion
55th Infantry Regiment
56th Recon Regiment
56th Infantry Regiment
114th Infantry Regiment
113th Infantry Regiment
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment
15th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd Engineer Regiment
21st Division
56th Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
33rd Division
2nd Recon Regiment
16th Infantry Regiment
24th Infantry Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
56th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
25th Army
1st RF Gun Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Field Artillery Regiment
84th JAAF AF Bn
5th Mortar Battalion
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Raiding Rgt /2

Defending units:
11th Indian Division
SSVF Brigade
9th Indian Division
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
1st ISF Base Force
22nd Australian Brigade
Singapore Base Force
Malayan Air Wing
110th RAF Base Force
223 Group RAF
3rd HK&S Light AA Regiment
2nd ISF Base Force
224 Group RAF
111th RAF Base Force
109th RAF Base Force
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
112th RAF Base Force
3rd Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Fortress
1st Manchester Battalion
1st Hyderabad Battalion
III Indian Corps
2nd Loyal Battalion
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
27th Australian Brigade
AHQ Far East
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
FMSV Brigade
2nd Gordons Battalion
Malaya Army
109th RN Base Force


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Ground combat at Madang (97,123)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 450 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Madang !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
I/66th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Anatom (120,159)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 378 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Anatom !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-), fatigue(-)



Assaulting units:
5th Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Toboali (50,93)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 222 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 7

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Toboali !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
III/81st Naval Guard Unit






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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 3:27:15 PM   
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There is a database issue with dutch subs not firing their deck guns because they are rated as AA.
Perhaps there's some morale check in surface battles on rounds fired vs rounds received or something. It must be bad for the morale of a submariner to be shot at but not being able to shoot back with that magnificent Bofors AA gun.

In short: perhaps the diving is caused by the database error having consequences in the battle algorithm.


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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 3:57:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HansBolter


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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Smeulders

I've actually seen pretty decent experience gains for some ships after a successful battle, but the caveat is that it was against other warships. For subs who'll mostly be shooting at merchants you're not going to see a lot of improvement.



"ships" yeah, but subs? I have had subs hitting enemy carriers and they gained nothing. Don't know what's the story behind.



On the ships issue I was actually bowled over at how much night xp was gained by one particular ship in my last game. I normally don't pay meticulous detail to ship crew experience gains, but took notice one day that the Detroit had a night xp value of 65 by late fall '42.

Not knowing what it started with I mistakenly believed that it must have started somewhere near that value and took note to be sure to get it in action as a light SAG leader early on in my next game. I started the next game and examind the Detroit's game start xp value and was very surprised to discover that it starts with a night xp value of 35.

I can't recall how many surface fights it participated in during the prior game to get an increase of 30 points in 9 months, but I do tend to be very aggressive with small light SAGs and tend to lead them with the CLs that have very low AA values as I see them as primarily surface combatants since they suck as carrier escorts.


Detroit has been my supership from day one. In fact all of the old light CAs seem to make excellent destroyer leaders and do very well. I have lost most but I am willing to bet that Detroit has been in about 20 fights small and large during my campaign. A charmed life indeed. I will have to check her exp. Sad thing is, she should be in the 80s range by now but it just does not happen. Just a part of the game that any American warship before 1/44 has average to low crews and any after 1/44 had excellent crews.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/16/2012 4:02:50 PM   
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Hi CT,

There is a database issue with dutch subs not firing their deck guns because they are rated as AA.
Perhaps there's some morale check in surface battles on rounds fired vs rounds received or something. It must be bad for the morale of a submariner to be shot at but not being able to shoot back with that magnificent Bofors AA gun.

In short: perhaps the diving is caused by the database error having consequences in the battle algorithm.





Yes, I was just going to comment that it only seemed to be Dutch sub.

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/17/2012 3:26:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: d0mbo

Hi CT,

There is a database issue with dutch subs not firing their deck guns because they are rated as AA.
Perhaps there's some morale check in surface battles on rounds fired vs rounds received or something. It must be bad for the morale of a submariner to be shot at but not being able to shoot back with that magnificent Bofors AA gun.

In short: perhaps the diving is caused by the database error having consequences in the battle algorithm.





my Dutch subs do fire their deck guns, there were incidents when they fired their whole AA gun ammo into freighters but usually they break off. Guess that db issue might habe been fixed in babes?

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/17/2012 5:25:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy

quote:

ORIGINAL: d0mbo

Hi CT,

There is a database issue with dutch subs not firing their deck guns because they are rated as AA.
Perhaps there's some morale check in surface battles on rounds fired vs rounds received or something. It must be bad for the morale of a submariner to be shot at but not being able to shoot back with that magnificent Bofors AA gun.

In short: perhaps the diving is caused by the database error having consequences in the battle algorithm.




my Dutch subs do fire their deck guns, there were incidents when they fired their whole AA gun ammo into freighters but usually they break off. Guess that db issue might habe been fixed in babes?


I am in early Feb '42 in IronMan Japan v5 (no DaBabes) and my Dutch subs are firing thier deck guns with regularity.



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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/17/2012 10:25:10 PM   
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Playing scenario #1 myself and the dutch subs are _not_ firing their deck guns.

Anyway, carry on!

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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/20/2012 4:10:04 PM   
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ASW attack near Broome at 63,124

Japanese Ships
xAK Asama Maru #2
DD Asagao

Allied Ships
SS Truant, hits 1

reinforcements for Broome... or convoy going out of it again...

SS Truant is sighted by escort
Truant bottoming out ....
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Asagao attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao attacking submerged sub ....
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
DD Asagao is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub


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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Gokoku Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS O23, hits 1



xAK Gokoku Maru #2 is sighted by SS O23
SS O23 attacking xAK Gokoku Maru #2 on the surface
SS O23 breaks off surface engagement and submerges

lol, lovely... tip to every IJ player: keep moving your freighters unescorted as this means EVERY Allied sub skipper with an aggression rating <55 is useless, means 75% of the top skippers with a high naval rating are pure dorks and can't be used... of course, this would be totally different if the freighters would be escorted as those dorks then attack with their low agg rating, they just don't do that when the freighter is unescorted... what a funny little logic behind that...


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Amphibious Assault at Obi (77,106)

TF 13 troops unloading over beach at Obi, 77,106

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad accidentally lost during unload of Bandasan SNLF /1
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of Bandasan SNLF /1


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Amphibious Assault at Port Hedland (57,129)

TF 168 troops unloading over beach at Port Hedland, 57,129

ok, the enemy also takes the dot base West of Broome, probably to put some patrol ac there...

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TF 251 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-19
DMS W-18
DMS W-17
DMS W-16
DMS W-15



99 mines cleared

all of Singapore's minefield will be gone in two or three days at the latest...

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Submarine attack near Palembang at 48,91

Japanese Ships
xAK Seisyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS O24, hits 5



xAK Seisyo Maru is sighted by SS O24
SS O24 attacking xAK Seisyo Maru on the surface
de Booy, O. decides to submerge SS O24 due to damage

LMAO, O24 which sank no less than two xAK and an AO in one turn also fails attacking an unescorted freighter just like O23 earlier today... actually, it's not funny but totally sad... but hey ho, only silly castor thinking that is plain wrong...


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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 49
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26



Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 7 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on West Borneo KNIL Battalion, at 56,90 (Pontianak)

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 9



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 59



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged



Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 14



No Japanese losses



Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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ASW attack near Koepang at 68,116

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze

Allied Ships
SS S-40



SS S-40 is sighted by escort
DD Tachikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tachikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Amphibious Assault at Billiton (52,93)

TF 258 troops unloading over beach at Billiton, 52,93




and today's intel:

4/38th/B Division is planning for an attack on Port Moresby.
3/3rd Engineer Construction Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Port Hedland.
2/9th Field AF Construction Battalion is loaded on xAK Momoyama Maru moving to Port Hedland.

interestingly enough, this probably means bluebook is going to build up Port Hedland which is quite surprising to me... we have spotted two enemy units moving over the Kokoda trail, one might be 4th Div...




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TF 251 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-19
DMS W-18
DMS W-17
DMS W-16
DMS W-15

139 mines cleared

is it that hard to adjust the die roll for mine sweeping? I mean, ok, the numbers of available mines were decreased to 1/100 of WITP's numbers and I am fine with this, but why was the mine sweeping left as it was in WITP... ok for WITP, ten times too effective for AE...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengpinang at 50,85, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio

Allied Ships
ML No. 423, Shell hits 3, and is sunk



Reduced sighting due to 17% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 17% moonlight: 10,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
CL Nagara engages ML No. 423 at 9,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages ML No. 423 at 9,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CL Nagara engages ML No. 423 at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Nagara engages ML No. 423 at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 5,000 yards
CL Nagara engages ML No. 423 at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
Massive explosion on ML No. 423
ML No. 423 sunk by CL Nagara at 7,000 yards
ML No. 423 sunk by CL Nagara at 7,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


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TF 251 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-19
DMS W-17



4 mines cleared


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Tandjoengpinang at 50,85, Range 6,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Nagara
DD Natsushio
DD Yukikaze
DD Hayashio

Allied Ships
ML No. 432, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
HDML 1096, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
HDML 1097, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
MMS-93, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
MMS-94, Shell hits 2, and is sunk

those vessels were left overs at Singapore... ramps up the lost ship count for the Japanese a little but no biggie in terms of victory points...

Reduced sighting due to 10% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 10% moonlight: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
MMS-94 sunk by DD Natsushio at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CL Nagara engages MMS-93 at 4,000 yards
DD Hayashio engages ML No. 432 at 4,000 yards
Massive explosion on MMS-93
MMS-93 sunk by DD Yukikaze at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
ML No. 432 sunk by CL Nagara at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
HDML 1097 sunk by CL Nagara at 4,000 yards
CL Nagara engages HDML 1096 at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
HDML 1096 sunk by CL Nagara at 6,000 yards
HDML 1096 sunk by CL Nagara at 6,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


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Amphibious Assault at Pukapuka (157,158)

TF 309 troops unloading over beach at Pukapuka, 157,158

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost overboard during unload of 53rd Nav Gd /1


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Amphibious Assault at Mare' (117,160)

TF 337 troops unloading over beach at Mare', 117,160

no clue where all these dot bases really are, it's obvious that bluebook wants to take every single dot base in the Pacific... nearly everything else is Japanese already anyway...

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TF 251 encounters mine field at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Ships
DMS W-19
DMS W-18
DMS W-17
DMS W-16
DMS W-15



38 mines cleared


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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 49
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 10 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 4 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 78,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 12



No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PT Q-113
PT-41
PT Q-111



Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 16
Ki-30 Ann x 26
Ki-36 Ida x 8
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 5 damaged
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
16 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 20



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Amphibious Assault at Mangaia (159,180)

TF 124 troops unloading over beach at Mangaia, 159,180





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Amphibious Assault at Aitutaki (159,174)

TF 237 troops unloading over beach at Aitutaki, 159,174





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Ground combat at Aitutaki (159,174)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 326 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 14

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 7

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aitutaki !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), supply(-)



Assaulting units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy


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Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1429 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 27

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Hedland !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Kure 2nd SNLF


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Ground combat at Billiton (52,93)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 231 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 13

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 13

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 13 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Billiton !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:



Assaulting units:
III/81st Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Mergui (53,62)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2436 troops, 14 guns, 10 vehicles, Assault Value = 75

Defending force 30 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 33

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 33 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mergui !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)


Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
RTA Cavalry Division

Defending units:
108th/2 Base Force /1


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Ground combat at Pukapuka (157,158)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 692 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 15

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pukapuka !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
53rd Nav Gd /4




and here's the long promised strategic map... looking at it, it doesn't look as bad as it actually is (all those green dots in SOPAC are Allied dot bases left) because all of SOPAC is lost with Australia and New Zealand being cut off from the US West Coast... I still own Canton Island, Palmyra, Christmas Island, Johnston and Hawaii of course... next Allied controlled areas are New Zealand and Australia... within the SRA we have three strongholds left, Clark Field, Malang on Java and one base North of Medan on Sumatra...




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RE: Ending an IJ wet dream - bluebook (J) vs castor tro... - 3/20/2012 10:19:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks CT, that's a pretty daunting perimeter for only the 2nd week of Feb! You seem to be taking it all in stride though.

Are you digging in to defend PM, or has the SOPAC push interfered with your usual Australia plans? It seems like he hasn't really caught much of value for all his effort, but maybe it's kept you from doing things you otherwise would have.

Seems like Port Hedland is step 1 to Darwin probably, which wouldn't be too surprising. Are you anticipating a further reach like Ceylon or maybe NZ? With scen 1 troops and how spread out he is I think he'd have to be crazy to go for India or Australia proper before your holdouts are reduced.

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lol, 1eyedjacks is invading Hawaii in my other PBEM. Better say, he tries to... Game is terrible slow though and we`re not making much progress. He started an AAR but I don`t know how much he has put in there.

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Thanks CT, that's a pretty daunting perimeter for only the 2nd week of Feb! You seem to be taking it all in stride though.

Are you digging in to defend PM, or has the SOPAC push interfered with your usual Australia plans? It seems like he hasn't really caught much of value for all his effort, but maybe it's kept you from doing things you otherwise would have.

Seems like Port Hedland is step 1 to Darwin probably, which wouldn't be too surprising. Are you anticipating a further reach like Ceylon or maybe NZ? With scen 1 troops and how spread out he is I think he'd have to be crazy to go for India or Australia proper before your holdouts are reduced.



Actually his push into SOPAC hasn't really harmed me. Ok, I would have preferred to hold the line Noumea - Fiji - Pago Pago but in the end it will do more harm to him than me I guess as it forces me into changing my overall strategy so he could well see me driving a land death star into Burma in halve a year.

I would bet he goes for Darwin and he has troops marching over the Kokoda trail to attack PM but only two units are spotted so this seems to be rather light. He has battleships and cruisers at Koepang together with several convoys so he either is going for the Perth area or Darwin next. If I were him, I would take Darwin first to prevent further buildup, same for PM. PM and Darwin in Allied control could well turn out to be a bigger problem for him than his conquest of SOPAC is a problem for me.

I really don't think his troops are spread out just because he took all that area. He took a place, picked up the unit and moved on to take the next target. There were two divs operating in SOPAC, guess both are tasked to assault PM now, IIRC intel showed both prepping for PM. And else there were only small IJN units operating in SOPAC which are enough to take all the empty ground of course.

Ceylon I really don't care, NZ wouldn't change the strategic situation at all, I would lose a lot of points but I would gain a lot of first line NZ units as reinforcements so if this doesn't trigger autovictory for him then it actually won't do him any good at all as he would trade perm restricted crap NZ units with non restricted first line combat units. I doubt he'll go for India, his drive into the Indian Ocean had only one goal IMO, to cut off my shipping lanes from India to Australia which points also points towards my theory that Australia will be his main target.

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What happened with the Hawaii Invasion?



lol, 1eyedjacks is invading Hawaii in my other PBEM. Better say, he tries to... Game is terrible slow though and we`re not making much progress. He started an AAR but I don`t know how much he has put in there.



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Sub attack near Broome at 62,127

Japanese Ships
xAK Nisso Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Asama Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS Truant

Truant kills another freighter around Broome... if we continue like this then the sunk enemy freighters will be pretty much the only thing that keeps me scoring some points...

SS Truant launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Nisso Maru
Truant bottoming out ....
Sub escapes detection


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Pre-Invasion action off Tahiti (173,178) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
AMC Kiyosumi Maru
DD Yuzuki

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



CA Kako firing at Tahiti Detachment
Tahiti Detachment firing at CA Kako
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Tahiti (173,178)

TF 4 troops unloading over beach at Tahiti, 173,178

Japanese ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

not surprising, after his small IJN unit failed on Tahiti, using the whopping design feature aka amphib bonus the enemy lands two unprepared regiments of 4th Div on Tahiti... means the loss of the last Allied held base in SOPAC is only a matter of days...

12 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 4th/C Div /2
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th Div /2
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 4th Div /3
12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 4th Div /3
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 4th/A Div
19 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost overboard during unload of 4th/C Div /3
12 Support troops lost from landing craft during unload of 4th/C Div /3


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Amphibious Assault at Eiao (191,165)

TF 32 troops unloading over beach at Eiao, 191,165

Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)



13.2mm T93 AAMG lost overboard during unload of 51st Nav Gd


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Invasion Support action off Tahiti (173,178)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
AMC Kiyosumi Maru
DD Yuzuki

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



CA Kako firing at A Det USN Port Svc
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Submarine attack near Madang at 97,123

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kitahuku Maru, Shell hits 24

Allied Ships
SS KXV, hits 8

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



xAKL Kitahuku Maru is sighted by SS KXV
SS KXV attacking on the surface
SS KXV low on gun ammo, Ver Brugge P. breaks off surface engagement and submerges

this time the sub really suffers damage so no rant about breaking off (even though DAMAGE wasn't the reason for breaking off this time )... what seems to be totally crazy though is that a sub doesn't carry enough ammo to harm even a small freighter... the troop carrying xAKL is hit by one and a halve dozen 88mm shells, isn't on fire, isn't heavily damaged... not a single torp was fired on the enemy ship... once again, I would have better been off with the enemy ESCORTING his troop convoy because then there would have been the chance to attack submerged and fire some torps... guess 3 out of 4 surface attacks against UNescorted convoys result in fails, which is worse than submerged attacks... never experienced this phenomena before because I never played someone who only uses escorts for a minority of his convoys but it obviously pays off for bluebook to NOT escort his convoys... omg...

moderately damaged and out of gun shells KXV retires...


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Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 66



Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
38 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Soerabaja , at 56,104

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 24



No Japanese losses



Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 118 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 4
Ki-30 Ann x 5
Ki-36 Ida x 11
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 23
Ki-51 Sonia x 12



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-36 Ida: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
12 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-36 Ida bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 30 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Malang , at 55,105

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 49
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 26



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 12 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-30 Ann x 21



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Bataan , at 78,77

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 113 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 25



Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged



Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Invasion Support action off Tahiti (173,178)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

9 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
AMC Kiyosumi Maru
DD Yuzuki

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Atiu (160,176)

TF 237 troops unloading over beach at Atiu, 160,176





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Amphibious Assault at Ketapang (55,93)

TF 258 troops unloading over beach at Ketapang, 55,93

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of III/81st Nav Gd
17 troops of a SNLF Squad lost from landing craft during unload of III/81st Nav Gd


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Ground combat at 64,96 (near Balikpapan)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 930 troops, 0 guns, 141 vehicles, Assault Value = 79

Defending force 603 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese adjusted assault: 102

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)


Allied ground losses:
266 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
VI KNIL Battalion
Samarinda KNIL Battalion


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Ground combat at Mangaia (159,180)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 836 troops, 18 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 41

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 21

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mangaia !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF


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Ground combat at Obi (77,106)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 433 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 8

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Obi !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)



Assaulting units:
Bandasan SNLF


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Ground combat at Mare' (117,160)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 378 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 5

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Mare' !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: supply(-)



Assaulting units:
5th Indpt SNLF Coy

a dot base?

today's intel:

12th Indpt Infantry Regiment is loaded on a Japanese CM moving to Cagayan.

another rgt is brought in to clear my guerillas in Mindanao's mountains...

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