Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: randallw

Quite a noble sacrifice by the Romanians, to voluntarily die for Germany.

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ORIGINAL: RCH

I am not sure of the proper course of action once Romania falls. You may want to consider this though: I would put a number of security units in Romanian cities. I would put two cavalry units on the Hungarian/ Romanian border ready to rush in once the Romanians fall. When Romania falls you will not want to fight for it, but fall back and cover the mountain passes to protect Hungary. Just a simple delay action inside Romania. Protect yourself from the Soviets landing troops by ship ( I would do this if it was me) once Romania falls.

Disband the air units. A lot of those planes are German anyway.

The above is just a suggestion. I am not sure what the beat course of action is.

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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Sigh. Every time I think we've nailed this armaments business, something like this happens.

I'm starting to think that in future games we need to distinguish between heavy and light armaments. Lumping it all together leads to weirdness like this, where a ton of manpower is locked in the pools. It should be possible to equip these people with infantry weapons, mortars, machine guns, etc., notwithstanding possible shortfalls in artillery production. Armaments in game terms covers too many things that aren't very fungible.

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ORIGINAL: Blubel

How many divisions do you have on refit behind the front?

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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

the problem of too low german armament production should be solved in a next patch.

germany did not lost the war because of a shortage of guns but men.

the country's economy produced enough to give everyone a rifle in the hand, even volkssturm and HJ at the end of the war.

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ORIGINAL: hfarrish


True, but armaments do govern artillery and anti-tank production, both of which Germany was notoriously lacking in (particularly the former).

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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Sigh. Every time I think we've nailed this armaments business, something like this happens.

I'm starting to think that in future games we need to distinguish between heavy and light armaments. Lumping it all together leads to weirdness like this, where a ton of manpower is locked in the pools. It should be possible to equip these people with infantry weapons, mortars, machine guns, etc., notwithstanding possible shortfalls in artillery production. Armaments in game terms covers too many things that aren't very fungible.

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ORIGINAL: veji1

Wholehearteadly agree...It seems so obvious to separate a more durable light armament production/pool and a more fragile heavy armament production, that would degrade significantly as some effects of the long war are felt (Bombing of germany, lack of raw materials, etc...)

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If we take the production of MG42s (the backbone of German infantry post 41), 17,915 were built in 1942, 116,725 in 1943, 211,806 in 1944, and 61,877 in 1945 (source: wikipedia! Too lazy to find a proper source at the moment). By mid 1943 terje has only produced 418 of these (I'm assuming the larger number are MG43s). This means he's only producing less ( 116,725 / 2 + 17,915 = 76, 277 * .7 [production to other fronts] = 53,394. 418 / 53394 = .00782) than 1% the historical amount. If 9927 is the MG42 production, then its .185919, or 19%. Either way he's severly underproducing, which may not be an armament shortage, but an OOB problem, as the number of machine guns in infantry divisions rose dramatically from 43 onwards to compensate for manpower shortages.

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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Was about to say the same. Tallied all Pz III through Pz VI production, plus all major jgpz 38t through JgpzV and stug types for the entire war and i got up too 37k'ish.
Dunno what Overy includes in his numbers but they seem off or includes stuff not immidate apparent. If u look in game the weekly AFV production is many times higher in '44 opposed to '41 as it should be.

About his Artillery numbers they include Anti air artillery so if u look at actual gun making it to the east front those figurs are some what misleading as more and more of the production is AA guns, used in the defence of the reich.
According to Overy him self 2/3 of all artillery ammo produced in '44 is for AA artillery.
Another point where things get to generic in game, but it is as, as it is. Supply being supply no matter. Germans never had a lack of small arms ammo, but alrdy from '43 and more so in '44+ widespread lack of artilley ammo has a big impact on the firepower of the german artillery. The average daily alloted ammo supply is between 20 to 25% of the needed for all artillery in the 7th army in normandy. Doesnt help to have a tube if u got nothing comming out of it.

Kind regards,

Rasmus