Matrix Games Forums

 Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Achtung panzer Operation star

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [General] >> General Discussion >> Achtung panzer Operation star Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/28/2012 12:51:54 AM   
Prince of Eckmühl


Posts: 2459
Joined: 6/25/2006
From: Texas
Status: offline 		Anyone played this?

_____________________________

Government is the opiate of the masses.
Post #: 1
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/28/2012 1:52:22 AM   
Rosseau

 

Posts: 2757
Joined: 9/13/2009
Status: offline 		A big improvement over the original. Buying the expansions on sale at Gamers Gate also worthwhile.
It plays like a new engine, IMO, and probably is.

(in reply to Prince of Eckmühl)
Post #: 2
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/28/2012 2:10:10 AM   
Prince of Eckmühl


Posts: 2459
Joined: 6/25/2006
From: Texas
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: rosseau

A big improvement over the original. Buying the expansions on sale at Gamers Gate also worthwhile.
It plays like a new engine, IMO, and probably is.

Would you compare it favorably to Combat Mission Normandy?


_____________________________

Government is the opiate of the masses.

(in reply to Rosseau)
Post #: 3
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 1:00:36 AM   
Rosseau

 

Posts: 2757
Joined: 9/13/2009
Status: offline 		It's a good game, but you would be disappointed comparing it to CMBN. Realistic, but Russian devs, interface still a bit quirky, a quick mission maker nothing like the depth of CMBN. But still, if you can get APOS and the expansions on sale - let's say for $30 or less total - I don't think you'd be disappointed. At least I'm not. It's realistic and different enough to be likable without comparing to CMBN.

(in reply to Prince of Eckmühl)
Post #: 4
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 7:32:16 AM   
markl

 

Posts: 13
Joined: 9/4/2007
Status: offline 		I think the whole Graviteam series is a real missed oportunity. CMBN beats them hands down for me. I want my strategy to be the game play not the interface. Wonderfull graphics but not worth the effort for me, but some people seem to be able to pick it up. Wish I was one of them but alas not.

But then I still prefer the older CMx1 series as I still play quick battles.

At Christmas I ended up getting "Panzer Command: Ostfront" it comes with a real manual. After Battlefront games the movment system is hard to get used to but a good game and you do not have to worry about the interface either.

Regards MarkL

(in reply to Rosseau)
Post #: 5
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 8:30:02 AM   
wodin


Posts: 10762
Joined: 4/20/2003
From: England
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: rosseau

It's a good game, but you would be disappointed comparing it to CMBN. Realistic, but Russian devs, interface still a bit quirky, a quick mission maker nothing like the depth of CMBN. But still, if you can get APOS and the expansions on sale - let's say for $30 or less total - I don't think you'd be disappointed. At least I'm not. It's realistic and different enough to be likable without comparing to CMBN.



I agree, great little series. Not for everyone though. Seems it's like Marmite, you either love it or hate it.

_____________________________

My website


https://www.awargamersneedfulthings.co.uk/

(in reply to Rosseau)
Post #: 6
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 10:02:21 AM   
jomni


Posts: 2827
Joined: 11/19/2007
Status: offline 		At least they made a nice tank sim with tactical options out of it (Steel Armor).

_____________________________

My Blog
Random Wargame Name Generator

(in reply to wodin)
Post #: 7
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 10:28:14 AM   
IainMcNeil


Posts: 2804
Joined: 10/26/2004
From: London
Status: offline 		If you dont have it already then wait till March. We might have a surprise for you ;)

_____________________________

Iain McNeil
Director
Matrix Games

(in reply to jomni)
Post #: 8
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 11:31:08 AM   
PunkReaper


Posts: 1085
Joined: 8/23/2006
From: England
Status: offline 		waiting......waiting.....waiting

(in reply to IainMcNeil)
Post #: 9
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 1:21:38 PM   
parusski


Posts: 4804
Joined: 5/8/2000
From: Jackson Tn
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

If you dont have it already then wait till March. We might have a surprise for you ;)


--that's me holding my breath.

_____________________________

"I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast."- W.T. Sherman

(in reply to IainMcNeil)
Post #: 10
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 2:27:19 PM   
jomni


Posts: 2827
Joined: 11/19/2007
Status: offline 		Matrix version!

_____________________________

My Blog
Random Wargame Name Generator

(in reply to parusski)
Post #: 11
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 8:15:44 PM   
wodin


Posts: 10762
Joined: 4/20/2003
From: England
Status: offline 		What of Op Star??? Or Steel Blaze? I have Steel Fury which is my favourite ever tank sim, with all the mods.

Gamersgate have loads of sales. Op Star is $19.99 at the moment. Can Slitherine\Matrix keep up with that kind of pricing policy?

Money matters these days and sadly loyalty to a publisher comes second when money is involved in these tough times.

_____________________________

My website


https://www.awargamersneedfulthings.co.uk/

(in reply to jomni)
Post #: 12
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 2/29/2012 10:58:30 PM   
Prince of Eckmühl


Posts: 2459
Joined: 6/25/2006
From: Texas
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

If you dont have it already then wait till March. We might have a surprise for you ;)


Now, I'm REALLY interested.


_____________________________

Government is the opiate of the masses.

(in reply to IainMcNeil)
Post #: 13
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 3:22:18 AM   
Rosseau

 

Posts: 2757
Joined: 9/13/2009
Status: offline 		Now you tell us?

It's true though, they could use a publisher.


(in reply to Prince of Eckmühl)
Post #: 14
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 6:45:12 AM   
markl

 

Posts: 13
Joined: 9/4/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

If you dont have it already then wait till March. We might have a surprise for you ;)

Now if Matrix pick this one up, no gamers gate activation etc.
This may make me change my mind. Hopefully both titles.

Cheers MarkL

(in reply to IainMcNeil)
Post #: 15
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 8:10:06 AM   
wodin


Posts: 10762
Joined: 4/20/2003
From: England
Status: offline 		Still think it's an odd thing to do. You can get the first one dirt cheap from Amazon. The second cheap from Gamers Gate. As I said only the Matrix faithful with money will go for the Matrix version.

Funny enough a fair few years ago I tired to get David and Graviteam on speaking terms to publish Steel Fury and it's unpublished (in the UK) Russian expansion. Now if they manage to get Graviteam to release Steel Fury Case Blue colour me interested.

_____________________________

My website


https://www.awargamersneedfulthings.co.uk/

(in reply to markl)
Post #: 16
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 8:16:47 AM   
Rosseau

 

Posts: 2757
Joined: 9/13/2009
Status: offline 		Went back to the original AP43, and not that difficult to figure out as it seems. Think I got it for $17.99, a price that surprised everyone considering its relative quality out of the box. So yes, pricing will be an issue. Support would be the payoff for the higher prices I guess.

(in reply to wodin)
Post #: 17
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 10:21:39 AM   
markl

 

Posts: 13
Joined: 9/4/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Still think it's an odd thing to do. You can get the first one dirt cheap from Amazon. The second cheap from Gamers Gate. As I said only the Matrix faithful with money will go for the Matrix version.




I think others may take up the Matrix edition with only a serial for protection, especially if they host all the unofficial patches as well. Especially if they go to the trouble of say including a real tutorial with their version, better documentation etc.

Their tank sim has limited activations, that was bound to put people off buying the game as well.

Would have been better to go with Matrix first up. No install limitations, only serial etc. Far better for a niche market.

Cheers MarkL

(in reply to wodin)
Post #: 18
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 12:44:22 PM   
bairdlander2


Posts: 2264
Joined: 3/28/2009
From: Toronto Ontario but living in Edmonton,Alberta
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: jomni

Matrix version!

At 3 times the price

< Message edited by bairdlander -- 3/1/2012 12:45:30 PM >

(in reply to jomni)
Post #: 19
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 1:54:44 PM   
vonRocko

 

Posts: 1447
Joined: 11/4/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: markl
. I want my strategy to be the game play not the interface. Wonderfull graphics but not worth the effort for me, but some people seem to be able to pick it up. Wish I was one of them but alas not.



At Christmas I ended up getting "Panzer Command: Ostfront" it comes with a real manual. After Battlefront games the movment system is hard to get used to but a good game and you do not have to worry about the interface either.

Regards MarkL

These are also my feelings on the game. I never could get into the interface.
Will Matrix improve anything?

(in reply to markl)
Post #: 20
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 4:20:48 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Hmmmmm, here we go another little worm to draw us  in.  We are So Easy!

_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to vonRocko)
Post #: 21
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 4:26:22 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Is this close to being like Theater of War?  I hope not really didn't care for it.  Is it RTS or Turn based?  Individual soldiers or squads/teams?

_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to Titanwarrior89)
Post #: 22
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 5:38:32 PM   
Real and Simulated Wars

 

Posts: 768
Joined: 8/6/2003
Status: offline 		Terrific games, vastly superior to ToW.

Some details at my blog, these two entries about the latest operation star:

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2012/01/achtung-panzer-operation-star-quick.html

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2012/02/achtung-panzer-operation-star-sokolovo.html


And of course a review of the previous one, Achtung Panzer Kharkov 43:

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2010/02/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-review.html

Cheers,


_____________________________

My Blog: Real and Simulated Wars

(in reply to Titanwarrior89)
Post #: 23
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 7:31:01 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Great review, thanks that helped. One question, can troops enter building?
quote:

ORIGINAL: Chelco

Terrific games, vastly superior to ToW.

Some details at my blog, these two entries about the latest operation star:

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2012/01/achtung-panzer-operation-star-quick.html

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2012/02/achtung-panzer-operation-star-sokolovo.html


And of course a review of the previous one, Achtung Panzer Kharkov 43:

http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.com/2010/02/achtung-panzer-kharkov-1943-review.html

Cheers,




_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to Real and Simulated Wars)
Post #: 24
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 7:59:41 PM   
Real and Simulated Wars

 

Posts: 768
Joined: 8/6/2003
Status: offline 		Thanks, man.

Infantry can enter buildings. HMGs I haven't checked in detail but it looks like no.

Cheers,


_____________________________

My Blog: Real and Simulated Wars

(in reply to Titanwarrior89)
Post #: 25
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/1/2012 8:01:06 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Thanks, I may just buy this baby sometime this month if I have the money.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Chelco

Thanks, man.

Infantry can enter buildings. HMGs I haven't checked in detail but it looks like no.

Cheers,




_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to Real and Simulated Wars)
Post #: 26
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/2/2012 11:17:53 PM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Hey Chelco, how do you pull your save back up in this game?

_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to Titanwarrior89)
Post #: 27
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/3/2012 1:20:02 AM   
wodin


Posts: 10762
Joined: 4/20/2003
From: England
Status: offline 		Steel Fury has no activation at all. It was when they where looking for a publisher for SF I contacted Matrix to check them out. David told me in the end they never replied to his emails.

Paradox sell the first AP.

As I said if they cam release Steel Fury's expansion I'd be happy.

_____________________________

My website


https://www.awargamersneedfulthings.co.uk/

(in reply to Titanwarrior89)
Post #: 28
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/3/2012 3:01:43 AM   
Real and Simulated Wars

 

Posts: 768
Joined: 8/6/2003
Status: offline 		Hi Titan,

You had a corrupt save? Or you are lost in the interface? I ask you this last question because the interface is not that straightforward.

If you are playing a campaign, just click on the same campaign to load, it will load your saved game.

Cheers,



_____________________________

My Blog: Real and Simulated Wars

(in reply to wodin)
Post #: 29
RE: Achtung panzer Operation star - 3/3/2012 3:25:18 AM   
Titanwarrior89


Posts: 3283
Joined: 8/28/2003
From: arkansas
Status: offline 		Thanks Chelco. I save, but when I go back into the game I can't find the save button anywhere.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Chelco

Hi Titan,

You had a corrupt save? Or you are lost in the interface? I ask you this last question because the interface is not that straightforward.

If you are playing a campaign, just click on the same campaign to load, it will load your saved game.

Cheers,





_____________________________

"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

(in reply to Real and Simulated Wars)
Post #: 30
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [General] >> General Discussion >> Achtung panzer Operation star Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.672