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RE: The Greatest Generation - 3/14/2012 5:12:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
The folks at home didn�t forget that all the work and sacrifice and worry was for the troops and sailors and airmen at the front. One such was Jack Kirksey of Reynolds, Taylor County, Georgia, photographed here circa 1940. Kirksey served with John F. Kennedy aboard PT-109. He was killed in action August 1, 1943, when PT-109 was rammed by the Japanese destroyer Amigiri in the Solomon Islands.

You might want to check the spelling of Amigiri-- I think it might be Amagiri. Also, I clicked on the link to frigate in Wikipedia, and I noticed the article has a pronounce British slant. There's also not one mention of FFG-7s, of which the Hawes is one.

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RE: The Greatest Generation - 3/14/2012 11:31:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Thanks, gents, for the gentle corrections and additional information.

I have a question.� Why wouldn't a guy like this - who had shown bravery and ingenuity under fire - been promoted to a larger command, such as destroyers or capital ships?� He seemed to be a well-recognized leader, but he remains in command of sub tenders throughout the war.� Does that suggest there was anything "negative" about his leadership or capabilities?� Or could there be other and completely inoccuous reasons?

(With no military background whatsoever, I am clueless about these things.� If even asking the question gives offense ot military folks, pardon me and attribute it to my ignorance.)

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
"�Spittin� Dick� Hawes had already become a legend among submariners. He had a reputation of superb loyalty to subordinates and was known for his ingenuity with men and the materials at hand.

Standing up for subordinates is just another way of saying that he told folks higher up the chain to leave them the hell alone, and that doesn't play well come promotion time. Plus "ingenuity with men and materials" simply says he was a scrounger and and a rule breaker par excellence. I can say from personal experience in both the military and working for a large commercial enterprise, that superiors often aren't thrilled with "mavericks", and this guy was that, if ever there was one. Makes me love him all the more, but there's usually a career price to be paid when you operate this way.

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RE: The Greatest Generation - 3/15/2012 11:46:22 PM

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Kull very true. But its men and women who were SFC's (Scroungers First Class) that kept/keep the military moving forward. They do pay a price but most that I have seen and known didn't care as long as the job got done.

CR nice thread anymore.

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