Joel Billings
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As far as scenarios go, I think the main reason you don't see a lot of user made scenarios is because most player's attention is on the grand campaign, and creating scenarios is a major effort given the detail in the data in the game. There are some user made scenarios, but there are quite a few smaller scenarios available in the base game, and many more in the Don to the Danube expansion. My own opinion is that the game system works very well for Army Group sized scenarios that can last from 10-40 turns. My favorite for play against another human player is Drama on the Danube, but several of the Road to ... scenarios are very good against the AI, especially as a way to learn the game. If you played every non-campaign scenario once from both sides, in my opinion you would have gotten your money's worth out of the game and probably have played for hundreds of hours.
As you can tell by the discussion on the forum, there are some that believe we made some poor design decisions and because of this the game doesn't live up to their expectations. There are also many people that enjoy playing the game and either don't care about these design decisions or for whom they do not spoil their enjoyment of the game. I'm not sure how you can provide a demo of a game that has a 400 page manual that would allow a new player to both learn the game and appreciate what it has to offer, although I can understand the desire to have a demo. This game has enough going for it that some of the testers created a "boot camp" tutorial to go with the game, and after release, users created a wiki for it. Also, fans have translated the manual into French, Russian, Spanish, and Japanese, while Matrix translated it into German. For anyone to voluntarily translate a near 400 page manual, you know someone must like it. No game is perfect, and no game this complicated comes without controversial design decisions and compromises.
Here's the list of scenarios available:
1) Operation Barbarossa – 22 June 1941 – 3 December 1941
2) Road to Minsk – 22 June 1941 – 10 July 1941
3) Road to Smolensk – 22 June 1941 – 7 August 1941
4) Road to Kiev – 22 June 1941 – 28 August 1941
5) Road to Leningrad – 22 June 1941 – 15 October 1941
6) Road to Moscow - 22 June 1941 – 15 October 1941
7) Road to Leningrad - 22 June 1941 - 15 October 1941
8) Operation Typhoon – 30 September 1941 – 5 January 1942
9) Operation Blue – 27 June 1942 – 13 November 1942
10) Velikie Luki ’42 Tutorial – 8 November 1942 – 9 January 1943
11) Demjansk Pocket 1942 (editor tutorial) – 8 January 1942 – 22 April 1942
12) 1941-45 Campaign – 22 June 1942 – 1945
13) 1942-45 Campaign – 27 June 1942 – 1945
14) 1943-45 Campaign – 4 July 1943 – 1945
15) 1944-45 Campaign – 22 June 1944 – 1945
16) 1941-45 Campaign - Alt VC260 – 22 June 1944 – 1945
The Don to the Danube expansion adds the following scenarios:
1) Battle for Kharkov 1942 (12 May - 22 June 1942 - 6 turns)
2) Operation Sturgeon Catch 1942 (2 June - 3 August 1942 – 9 turns)
3) Case Blue – Phase I (28 June - 18 July 1942 - 3 turns)
4) Operation Uranus 1942 (19 November - 30 December 1942- 6 turns)
5) Operation Kutuzov-Rumyantsev (5 July - 29 August 1943 – 8 turns)
6) Cherkassy Pocket 1944 (24 January - 5 March 1944 – 6 turns)
7) Red Army Resurgent (19 November 1942 – 17 March 1943 – 17 turns)
8) Decision in the Ukraine (24 September 1943 – 4 May 1944 – 32 turns)
9) Retreat from Leningrad (22 June 1944 – 3 January 1945 – 28 turns)
10) Drama on the Danube (20 August 1944 – 5 May 1945 – 37 turns)
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RE: Prospective buyer question - 
yes dont pay too much attention to the negative comments if you want to base your decision on a one sided argument. Really - thats quite the most ridiculous thing thats been said in the whole thread. He comes here to ask for opinions and your answer is that he should only listen to those who say the game is worth the money - seriously - why would he bother to ask the question in the first place if thats what he was looking for ?
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