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Noob Question : Aircraft Questions - 5/23/2012 1:52:05 AM   
Hooper82

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Guys and Girls,

I've got a bit of a fetish for the Rufes (Especialy with the CS/AV's). Can any air units upgrade to Rufes (assuming PDU on), or only the 6 air units that come with them?

Is there a thread somewhere showing the upgrade paths (as there was for the original WITP?)? I understand you can pay PP to upgrade to a different type, but I don't see where you could select that different type of aircraft?


Cheers,
Hooper

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 5:39:58 AM   
Hooper82

 

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Status: offline 		After doing a fair bit of searching, I've found that the two FP airgroups attached to the Kamikawa Maru can upgrade to Rufe FF.

However, is there some sort of chart that shows all the upgrade paths? As there was for WITP?


Cheers,
Hooper

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 5:51:56 AM   
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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 6:25:29 AM   
Hooper82

 

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Status: offline 		Awesome, thanks!

Another question, re: Production

If I've got a replacement air group coming in requiring, for examples, Tonys, but I am only producing Tojo's, what happens to those airgroups? Do they come in or not?

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 6:27:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes they come and usually have 2 planes. If you play PDU on, you can change the plane model easily. If you play PDU off, you have only one upgrade path.

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 6:39:38 AM   
Hooper82

 

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Yes they come and usually have 2 planes. If you play PDU on, you can change the plane model easily. If you play PDU off, you have only one upgrade path.


So they come in even if I have 0 of that aircraft type in the pool?

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 7:21:49 AM   
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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 7:39:14 AM   
Hooper82

 

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Status: offline 		Hah, awesome!

See, who wouldn't want to be a Rufe pilot! Stationed right on the beach with some pretty island girls...

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 7:56:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hooper82


quote:

ORIGINAL: Puhis

Yes they come and usually have 2 planes. If you play PDU on, you can change the plane model easily. If you play PDU off, you have only one upgrade path.


So they come in even if I have 0 of that aircraft type in the pool?


Yes.

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 8:07:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hooper82

Hah, awesome!

See, who wouldn't want to be a Rufe pilot! Stationed right on the beach with some pretty island girls...


Hopefully, those pretty island girls also have a Rufe fetish!

If it weren't for the family-friendly nature of this forum, I would make a follow up comment involving the pretty island girls, the Rufe fetish and the area of the plane where the pilot sits.

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 10:39:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hooper82

Hah, awesome!

See, who wouldn't want to be a Rufe pilot! Stationed right on the beach with some pretty island girls...


I'll bet it was nice, until one have to actually fly that plane and meet allied fighters...

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 1:14:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Puhis


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hooper82

Hah, awesome!

See, who wouldn't want to be a Rufe pilot! Stationed right on the beach with some pretty island girls...


I'll bet it was nice, until one have to actually fly that plane and meet allied fighters...


We can dream a little Puhis, can't we?


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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 4:16:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another two questions
* Static Air Units (i.e. those unable to change their command), are they forever static or does that change at some point (i.e. IJA Air Groups on the home island).
* The Great 1944 Japanese Airforce Withdrawal...I've only just read about this on the forums. Its not listed in Intel > Group Withdrawal Schedule. Does anyone have nay more information on it?

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/23/2012 4:35:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Puhis
I'll bet it was nice, until one have to actually fly that plane and meet allied fighters...

We can dream a little Puhis, can't we?

Schneider Trophy dreams.

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 12:13:28 AM   
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Was there a reward to deliver a rufe to the allies?

rufe + island girls + cash = defector

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 12:36:19 AM   
Hanzberger


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Status: offline 		Has anyone found those Rufe's to be useful in their game?

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RE: Noob Question : Aircraft Questions - 5/24/2012 12:40:52 AM   
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Sometimes you can slap together a package of A6M2-n Rufe and H8K emilies

the rufes are chewed up but the emilies get through and hit some carriers


Beware the size 0 airfield

also if you put them aboard AV ships and use them in your oiler TF
they can defend against unescorted LBA

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 2:09:09 AM   
Hooper82

 

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ORIGINAL: Hanzberger

Has anyone found those Rufe's to be useful in their game?


I was going to use them on CS's, to add to CAP for KB/Mini KB.
If I had more I'd throw them into AV's to provide cover for convoys and the like, but the best I can tell, these are all the groups of float fighters you get -

Groups Aircraft Availaible Notes
Kamikawa Maru-1 6 Now On AV Kamikawa Maru
Kamikawa Maru-2 6 Now On AV Kamikawa Maru
Yokohama Ku S-1 9 4-Apr-1942
14th Ku S-1 9 10-Apr-1942 Withdrawn 01 Apr 1944
5th Ku S-1 9 15-Apr-1942 Withdrawn 01 Jan 1945
934 Ku S-1 9 15-Feb-1943 Withdrawn 01 Mar 1944
Sasebo Ku S-2 9 2-Apr-1944 Static
Kashima Ku S-1 9 17-Feb-1945 Static
Otsu Ku S-1 12 2-May-1945 Static

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ORIGINAL: Hooper82

Another two questions
* Static Air Units (i.e. those unable to change their command), are they forever static or does that change at some point (i.e. IJA Air Groups on the home island).
* The Great 1944 Japanese Airforce Withdrawal...I've only just read about this on the forums. Its not listed in Intel > Group Withdrawal Schedule. Does anyone have nay more information on it?


Any answer on these two?

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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 2:42:04 AM   
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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 9:17:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hooper82

Another two questions
* Static Air Units (i.e. those unable to change their command), are they forever static or does that change at some point (i.e. IJA Air Groups on the home island).
* The Great 1944 Japanese Airforce Withdrawal...I've only just read about this on the forums. Its not listed in Intel > Group Withdrawal Schedule. Does anyone have nay more information on it?



There are two types of static unit, those with a white 'attached to' name cannot be change, those in yellow are static because they are attched to a static HQ and therefore can chnage commands. It is a possibility that a unit could be withdrawn and return by the game but manually doing it does not work.


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RE: Noob Question : Rufes - 5/24/2012 4:14:44 PM   
Puhis


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ORIGINAL: Hanzberger

Has anyone found those Rufe's to be useful in their game?


Yes.
1) Task Force protection on AV or CS
2) CAP outside enemy fighter range

It's early 1943 in my PBEM game and I have several Rufe aces.

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