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ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
GJ, why do you think the combat results in China are so unfavorable? You lost 17 squads; he lost 27. That suggests that the Japanese have a favorable position in that hex. You know what happens when the Japanese force the Chinese to retreat? It's ugly. So, if you're making good progress, inflicting more losses than you're taking, and your getting the upper hand in a hex, why become discouraged?
Because He has stopped me everywhere else in China. I'll keep on pushing, but a lot of his units are getting better in experience and i never see any supply problems for him.... however i'll keep on bombing (if weather gets better...so awful in northern China!!!) and keep on rotating my units...but the bright days of the easy advances are now passed...now it becomes a simple war of attrition...
The way I think of China now is very different than when I started my first campaign there as the IJ. I was so discouraged when I'd get a 1:2 and lose a bunch of squads and have to wait to attack again. After having seen the collapse happen, I now think in terms of percentages and ability to regenerate troops. I noticed in about April of 42 that Chinese troops were not regenerating devices destroyed in these kinds of attacks, but if I kept throwing supply into China, I could.
If you're taking out a number of squads destroyed, that's only part of the victory of your 1:2 attack. The other part is that the large majority of the infantry, support, engineers and guns will not be regenerated in time to fight again any time soon, so by the next attack, when your losses are made up and your units strong again, his are still wrecked from the previous combat.
If he's pumped a lot of supply into China it may take a while before this effect is noticeable. Soon though, if you're bombing the major centers of supply, Chungking, Changsha and maybe eventually Chengtu, big chunks of supply are burning up every day. All of the Chinese squads may not be set to take replacements, but they will all be trying to heal disabled squads and devices. This takes supply. So if you're bombing troops, even more supply
Thinking of things this way the squads destroyed are not even as important as the squads disabled. You may have destroyed 27 infantry squads, but those might have already been disabled and thus not counting in the AV adjustment. You also disabled 27 squads. Those will not count in the next AV adjustment because they most likely will not be healed in time.
The growing experience levels of the Chinese units won't matter much when there are no healthy squads to fight. I never saw the supply problems in the combat reports until later, but Jocke told me that by the summer of 42 there were more infantry squads in China than there were supply points in total! 
Basically what Dan Nichols and CR said.
< Message edited by obvert -- 9/14/2012 11:17:51 PM >
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RE: Let's start! - 
i'll try to rotate once again my units...but it's getting harder every day to find fresh units in nortthern China... sending in 2 fresh divisions and 2 mixed Bdes.... but i really think Brad managed to stop me once for all... 
It's the second enemy CV our subs damage since the beginning of the war! 
... strange as it may sounds, we will attack the base tomorrow with the 65th Bde... hopefully it's not a trap. 
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