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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/24/2015 3:26:59 AM   
Admiral DadMan


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Tweaked repair screen:





Good stuff. Is there enough room to add a "$" or "%" next to a ship that is refitting?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/24/2015 3:45:12 AM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/24/2015 4:01:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Another Repair Ship Screen idea:

Can a button be added that sets all ships that are "refitting" to "Low" Priority?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/24/2015 12:25:14 PM   
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It would be great to have the ability to build/expand a Repair Shipyard.


The Japanese already can expand shipyards, but as I understand it the Allies do not have this ability. It would be very nice, though.


Will never happen. It is the sort of fundamental game design change which michaelm is not authorised to implement.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/25/2015 8:35:30 AM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/25/2015 8:48:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Michaelm, this thread's header still reads 09 October 2015. Please change to 25 October 2015.

And thanks for the update!

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/25/2015 12:23:26 PM   
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Updated beta in first post

Awesome. The items I suggested are working as I envisioned. Excellent work.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/26/2015 1:59:57 AM   
Admiral DadMan


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Status: offline 		Conversion Panel adjustment recommendation:



Slide the text over, align the text from the right, move the button to the right side of the button. The "Back" button could go over to the now vacant lower left corner.

The reason for the change is that it saves having to go from one side of the first panel to the other side of the next panel.




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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/26/2015 2:05:48 AM   
Admiral DadMan


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If I remember correctly, the focus use to stay with the group when it moved. But players wanted the focus to remain with the CV as they wanted to transfer off other groups.


Understood. I guess what is jarring is that this only happens for CVs. It's inconsistent. I'll FiDo. Thank you.

Wait, could it go back to the CV itself and NOT the next group on the CV?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 09 October... - 10/26/2015 3:05:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good to hear suggestions for consistency, ease of use and or things to reduce mouse clicks/movement.

If there was a WiTP 2 I'm not sure how many engine changes would be desired/required compared to automation or UI changes to reduce the effort and or make more accessible for the player.

Example;
- add a back button in the Plane/Weapon and Ship Database after clicking on unit instead of just an exit button

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/26/2015 8:45:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

Conversion Panel adjustment recommendation:



Slide the text over, align the text from the right, move the button to the right side of the button. The "Back" button could go over to the now vacant lower left corner.

The reason for the change is that it saves having to go from one side of the first panel to the other side of the next panel.






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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/26/2015 1:55:36 PM   
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Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta & UI Suggestions

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 10/28/2015 11:26:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just wanted to note that I posted what I think is some kind of display/UI bug in that other thread, in case Michael hasn't been watching it .

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/5/2015 2:30:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I might have stumbled onto a bug.

I was under the impression that if a base with a merchant or naval shipyard changes hands, the shipyard should turn into a repair shipyard.

However, I just 'Occupied' a base with a merchant shipyard and it is still a shipyard. So it seems that if you don't attack and conquer the base, but rather have it 'Occupied' without a fight, the shipyards do not convert.

Working as intended or not?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/5/2015 9:15:39 AM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/5/2015 5:56:45 PM   
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I'll have a look on the weekend. Do you have a save so I can check it?


That depends on if you need a before or after. I already saved over the file as this happened several turns before I noticed it.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/5/2015 6:14:47 PM   
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I'll have a look on the weekend. Do you have a save so I can check it?


That depends on if you need a before or after. I already saved over the file as this happened several turns before I noticed it.

Usually he needs before so he can see it happening with his debugger running.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/6/2015 12:52:30 AM   
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When transferring a fragment of a carrier capable air group to a CV, after transfer, the map will re-center to the upper left. Repeatable.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/6/2015 4:13:12 AM   
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Bug:

When transferring a fragment of a carrier capable air group to a CV, after transfer, the map will re-center to the upper left. Repeatable.


Mine doesn't do this. Mine stays put.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/7/2015 2:52:03 AM   
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I have found where is it changing the yards.
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ORIGINAL: Shark7

I think I might have stumbled onto a bug.

I was under the impression that if a base with a merchant or naval shipyard changes hands, the shipyard should turn into a repair shipyard.

However, I just 'Occupied' a base with a merchant shipyard and it is still a shipyard. So it seems that if you don't attack and conquer the base, but rather have it 'Occupied' without a fight, the shipyards do not convert.

Working as intended or not?



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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/7/2015 3:13:16 AM   
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I'll have a look on the weekend. Do you have a save so I can check it?


That depends on if you need a before or after. I already saved over the file as this happened several turns before I noticed it.

A current save with it showing would do.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/9/2015 6:11:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		This one is reproducible and has been around for quite a while. Go to a base with various kinds of air units. On the air display, click on "HB" to filter out heavy bombers. It does not work. The other filers all (AFAIK) work.

Now click on "All Types" (or whatever exact wording) to make all the groups filter out. Then click on "HB" to show (only) heavy bombers. It works.

So it seems like something is wrong with 'half' of the HB toggle.

I'll gather a save for you if you need one, but this should happen in any that you are looking at.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/9/2015 9:24:30 AM   
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this is WAD but i agree it is confusing, problem is u have toggle BM on which include all level BM types, so u toggle of HB but they are stil on because BM is on.
When u toggle all types u turn off BM toggle too so next time when u turn on/off HB it works fine

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/9/2015 2:05:32 PM   
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this is WAD but i agree it is confusing, problem is u have toggle BM on which include all level BM types, so u toggle of HB but they are stil on because BM is on.
When u toggle all types u turn off BM toggle too so next time when u turn on/off HB it works fine

No. BM covers all of the bomber types: HB, MB, AB, etc but only the HB off toggle doesn't work.

Also, if it were WAD then the two parts of the toggle (off & on) would behave in sync. But the HB off toggle does not work while the HB on toggle does work.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/11/2015 12:16:37 PM   
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this is WAD but i agree it is confusing, problem is u have toggle BM on which include all level BM types, so u toggle of HB but they are stil on because BM is on.
When u toggle all types u turn off BM toggle too so next time when u turn on/off HB it works fine

No. BM covers all of the bomber types: HB, MB, AB, etc but only the HB off toggle doesn't work.

Also, if it were WAD then the two parts of the toggle (off & on) would behave in sync. But the HB off toggle does not work while the HB on toggle does work.

Yes, the toggle is slightly confused. Have correct both the land group list and the base hex list

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 24 October... - 11/11/2015 3:12:22 PM   
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this is WAD but i agree it is confusing, problem is u have toggle BM on which include all level BM types, so u toggle of HB but they are stil on because BM is on.
When u toggle all types u turn off BM toggle too so next time when u turn on/off HB it works fine

No. BM covers all of the bomber types: HB, MB, AB, etc but only the HB off toggle doesn't work.

Also, if it were WAD then the two parts of the toggle (off & on) would behave in sync. But the HB off toggle does not work while the HB on toggle does work.

Yes, the toggle is slightly confused. Have correct both the land group list and the base hex list



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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 11/14/2015 12:20:22 AM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 11/14/2015 11:57:15 AM   
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Thanks for all the ongoing support!!!!





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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 11/14/2015 8:48:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone finding finding this beta had to install? I have tried it a couple of times, all I get is nothing. It is only when I run it as an administrator will I get that something is trying to be installed via a window message. I have never had any issues install these betas.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 11/14/2015 9:55:42 PM   
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Worked fine for me an hour ago.

You may have gotten a bad download. Try downloading again.



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