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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 3/4/2016 2:49:34 PM   
btd64


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Status: offline 		Hey Michael, In a test game of Focus Pacific I have S-35 at Suva which is stuck in repair mode and won't respond to mouse clicks to move out of pier side repair to active.

Also BB Gascoigne, located at Arorae(138,137), is anchored and setting to repair only shows "0" for the number of days for pier repair. In the last turn or so, 2 system damage has repaired. But the number "0" is still there.

A save is attached below. If you need more info, let me know....GP

The units involved have unlocked themselves....GP

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 3/20/2016 10:58:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am IJN vs AI and got a message "TF 116 slows down to allow TF 106 to catch up". TF 116 is my IJN sub patrol, TF 106 is an US surface TF.
Checked it and they really follow my (unspotted) sub TF.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 3/20/2016 11:21:37 AM   
michaelm75au


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Status: offline 		Sounds like some data wasn't cleared from one of the TFs - probable one was in use at the time.
What version are you using as I thought I had cleared these issues?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 3/20/2016 12:39:25 PM   
RichardAckermann

 

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Status: offline 		Just checked my shortcut and I inadvertently used the "G" type beta, not the current one.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 3/31/2016 1:40:21 AM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/3/2016 7:26:53 PM   
btd64


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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/3/2016 8:50:31 PM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/4/2016 5:13:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: General Patton

Hey Michael, In a test game of Focus Pacific I have S-35 at Suva which is stuck in repair mode and won't respond to mouse clicks to move out of pier side repair to active.

Also BB Gascoigne, located at Arorae(138,137), is anchored and setting to repair only shows "0" for the number of days for pier repair. In the last turn or so, 2 system damage has repaired. But the number "0" is still there.

A save is attached below. If you need more info, let me know....GP

The units involved have unlocked themselves....GP

A repair time of "0" usually means there is a destroyed device on the ship that cannot be replaced at the current port. All the usual damage is handled normally but destroyed devices need the right size port/naval support/shipyard.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/4/2016 5:34:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Michaelm.

The automatic 50 exp at Pearl Harbor is gone. Shakedown cruises for merchant ships make sense again.


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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 updated 3 ... - 4/4/2016 5:30:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks, Michael!

PS: The download file name is AEupdate112k.zip, I assume it should be AEupdate1125k.zip (added the '5')?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 updated 3 ... - 4/5/2016 2:43:43 AM   
riflebrigade

 

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Status: offline 		Apart from the multiple fixes and upgrades to the program the Unofficial Public Beta Patch also fixed a problem I have with no visible text in the Scenario selection screen when using program without the Public Beta Patch.

Keep up the good work and thank you.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 updated 3 ... - 4/5/2016 10:33:53 AM   
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Thanks, Michael!

PS: The download file name is AEupdate112k.zip, I assume it should be AEupdate1125k.zip (added the '5')?

I did this late. Must have too much from end of name

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 updated 3 ... - 4/5/2016 1:42:21 PM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 updated 3 ... - 4/7/2016 7:19:24 PM   
Kitakami


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Status: offline 		Thank you very much, Michael. Really appreciated!

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/7/2016 7:23:59 PM   
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Thankyou!

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/10/2016 9:26:15 PM   
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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/12/2016 7:48:17 AM   
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Why not add AV tenders to enter the tanker convoys?

UP, answer please.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 7:59:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mine Laying TFs and Sub Mine Laying TFs when created default to "Do Not Lay Mines". Can this be changed to default of "Lay Mines"?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 8:01:24 PM   
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Mine Laying TFs and Sub Mine Laying TFs when created default to "Do Not Lay Mines". Can this be changed to default of "Lay Mines"?

No, please don't! The default of 'Do Not' is better.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 8:04:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

Mine Laying TFs and Sub Mine Laying TFs when created default to "Do Not Lay Mines". Can this be changed to default of "Lay Mines"?

No, please don't! The default of 'Do Not' is better.



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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 8:37:10 PM   
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+1 "Do Not" is better.

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Mine Laying TFs and Sub Mine Laying TFs when created default to "Do Not Lay Mines". Can this be changed to default of "Lay Mines"?

No, please don't! The default of 'Do Not' is better.



Really? The number of times I've forgotten to set it have resulted in a "dry run" and no mines delivered prompted me to ask.

Help me understand why is "do not" better?

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 8:38:35 PM   
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+1 "Do Not" is better.

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ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

Mine Laying TFs and Sub Mine Laying TFs when created default to "Do Not Lay Mines". Can this be changed to default of "Lay Mines"?

No, please don't! The default of 'Do Not' is better.



Agree, leave it at 'Do Not'.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 8:47:13 PM   
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Really? The number of times I've forgotten to set it have resulted in a "dry run" and no mines delivered prompted me to ask.

Help me understand why is "do not" better?


For me, it is because I rarely send the ML TF straight to target. So if it is set to Lay mines, they end up dropping mines in the wrong place. Plus, sometimes I'm just rebasing MLs and in that situation they will end up also laying mines at the new base when I probably didn't want them to.



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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 9:26:59 PM   
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quote:


Really? The number of times I've forgotten to set it have resulted in a "dry run" and no mines delivered prompted me to ask.

Help me understand why is "do not" better?


For me, it is because I rarely send the ML TF straight to target. So if it is set to Lay mines, they end up dropping mines in the wrong place. Plus, sometimes I'm just rebasing MLs and in that situation they will end up also laying mines at the new base when I probably didn't want them to.

Right! And mine pools are not infinite, they are quite restricted now. It is far more practical to require 'flipping the safety off' when you do intend to 'shoot' mines.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/13/2016 9:41:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs


quote:

ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg


quote:


Really? The number of times I've forgotten to set it have resulted in a "dry run" and no mines delivered prompted me to ask.

Help me understand why is "do not" better?


For me, it is because I rarely send the ML TF straight to target. So if it is set to Lay mines, they end up dropping mines in the wrong place. Plus, sometimes I'm just rebasing MLs and in that situation they will end up also laying mines at the new base when I probably didn't want them to.

Right! And mine pools are not infinite, they are quite restricted now. It is far more practical to require 'flipping the safety off' when you do intend to 'shoot' mines.


I agree. I've accidentally laid mines before.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/14/2016 3:16:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't have a problem with the 'do not' option being default as I've trained myself to look for the confirmation message when ordering a TF to lay mines.

That said, I don't 100% understand why a 'do not' default is a 'must' (new player here)...

Will Minelaying TFs incorrectly lay the mines if their route happens to pass by a suitable location along the way, similar to how it's advisable to have 'do not unload' set for Amphib TFs?

Why do you rarely send Minelaying TFs directly to their target? Is it due to accidental 'along the way' misfires, or are you deliberately routing the TFs to protect them, refuel, etc.?

As for the availability of mines, I've been setting up AEs/AKEs at regional 'hub' ports where possible and dispatching Minelaying TFs from there. I reload the minelayers using the 'replenish at sea' option. Seems to work just fine as long as supplies are available, whereas if I were to use port replenishment it may only load one or two mines...

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/14/2016 3:30:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		My frustration with minelayers has been when I set them to lay mines and gave them an enemy target base, but when they run into a harmless enemy convoy of xAKs they RTB and lay the mines at their home base! The big issue of course, is the shortage of mines in the pools. Smart thing to avoid this is to send the minelayers in "Do not lay mines" mode until they are within a few hexes of the target and then turn on the lay mines order.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/14/2016 5:11:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		It gets worse.

If you create an Evac TF consisting solely of minelaying ships, the TF reverts to Minelaying mission once you leave the TF screen and loads mines! I once emptied my Dutch mine pool this way while evacuating surplus minelaying ships from Java to Cocos Island.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/14/2016 7:13:22 PM   
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It gets worse.

If you create an Evac TF consisting solely of minelaying ships, the TF reverts to Minelaying mission once you leave the TF screen and loads mines! I once emptied my Dutch mine pool this way while evacuating surplus minelaying ships from Java to Cocos Island.


Set to "Do not refuel" and that setting should remain, which should stop them from loading mines.

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RE: Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 14 Novembe... - 4/16/2016 12:19:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Noticed this w/ new beta vs the Jan beta I was running - on land units the larger fragment doesn't become the parent like it used to. I've got 4th Marine invading Wotje & the larger fragment is on Wotje commanded by a generic Major while the parent is back at Suva under the command of the General

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