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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 4:50:42 AM   
cpt flam


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authorized me to take Tula

german pool
9 889 men
165 600 veh
0 arm (will grow from march ?)
80 700 hi




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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 4:54:17 AM   
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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 4:57:08 AM   
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really poor

i would prefer snow than mud now




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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 2:03:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		One more push and you would encircle and destroy 3,5 armies - I had to withdraw... That attack on Tula was painful, Bryansk and Western front armies are now struggling to adjust their defensive lines.

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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 8:17:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cpt flam

losses from the turn and beginning

really poor

i would prefer snow than mud now






2.1 million loses for SHC is becoming normal now as most poeple run in south and train everything to north of Tula.
I have yet to see a single 1.06.13+ game where moscow has fallen and many Leningrad is holding.

This is the new normal for WITE. Its a cake walk for SHC to keep loses under 2.5 million and hold Moscow.

As I have stated and all my games are playing out this way(1.06.13) the keys are:

1. GHC morale
2. Manpower centers
3. SHC AP crunch

1941 is almost meaningless for GHC at this point other then farming morale.


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RE: so bad - 10/22/2012 9:01:01 PM   
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RE: so bad - 10/23/2012 12:57:36 AM   
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I play for fun, mainly.





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RE: so bad - 10/23/2012 10:27:15 AM   
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Is it good, or bad?

I have my ass handed to me on a plate, though... Damned random weater :)

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RE: so bad - 10/23/2012 11:46:22 AM   
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And you are talking to the "ass handed on a plate"-champ


Terje

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RE: so bad - 10/23/2012 11:50:37 AM   
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fun ! - 10/24/2012 9:21:32 AM   
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furthermore i tend to play more "historically" than "gamey" (broadfront versus advance 4 hexes wide)

time for mud (everywhere) so will show my railnet

losses
5 220 / 25 720 men
75 / 305 art
5 / 55 afv

2 rifle div less




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RE: fun ! - 10/24/2012 9:25:09 AM   
cpt flam


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german pool (allways active)
22 511 men
160 700 veh
5 087 arm
81 930 hiwis




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RE: fun ! - 10/24/2012 3:33:58 PM   
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RE: fun ! - 10/25/2012 10:16:15 AM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		I got snow in north russia
needed 1 more hex to close a trap

losses
15 070 / 85 900 men
315 / 1 425 art
66 / 193 art




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RE: fun ! - 10/25/2012 10:25:15 AM   
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3 rifle div & 3 brigades are isolated

german pool
33 550 men
150 700 veh
14 472 arm
84 090 hi




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RE: fun ! - 10/25/2012 11:42:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		At least I learned something from killing Zhukov on turn 1, and now I have properly evacuated Rokossovsky from the Rzhev debacle, replacing him with some 2-4 general and only _then_ relocating the army, while there was still time. Rokossovsky is now taking stock of his brand new, Shock Army HQ :)

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RE: fun ! - 10/26/2012 4:04:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		10/30/41 from now on losses of unit will count

a new pocket is made (13 div and a brigade)
losses
18 940 / 98 050 men
460 / 1 430 art
82 / 475 afv

destroyed tank+ 2 rifle div and 3 tank brigade (will come back for the divs)




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RE: fun ! - 10/26/2012 4:08:54 PM   
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german pool
52 425 m
145 200 veh
19 751 arm
85 450 hi




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RE: fun ! - 10/26/2012 5:47:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wait, I didn't see any active partisans. Last time I checked, the best of them reached 60% TOE. Am I supposed to do something with them, or do they work automatically, like the RR units? How do I know a partisan is now active? Also, there is nothing in the log that my VVS bombers help the partisans...

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RE: fun ! - 10/28/2012 9:08:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		you can see them with my attacks and your supply mission to them
to supply them you must have TRS or BMB on night mission during interphase IA will work for you
you can not make anything with them
they begin as Partisan Cadre (PC) on map before becoming P (as active); at this time they can activate but become visible for me (and target)

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RE: fun ! - 10/28/2012 9:12:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		november begin wrong Mud everywhere (except europe)
some losses anyway
4 200 / 48 560 men / 4 rifle div and a tank brigade destroyed
55 / 630 art
0 / 6 afv

pools are growing
88 530 men
141 800 veh
29 487 arm
88 495 hi

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RE: fun ! - 10/29/2012 10:55:23 AM   
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panzers are acting in the "north"
a small pocket is created and we reach Kalinin

5 rifle and a cav div are deleted with an inf brigade (allready 110 AP)




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RE: fun ! - 10/29/2012 11:00:37 AM   
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we attack to keep pressure

losses are fine
24 020 / 153 260 men
480 / 2 205 art
97 / 434 afv




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RE: fun ! - 10/29/2012 11:04:08 AM   
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germany pool
95 880 men
135 400 veh
36 470 arm
92 350 hi




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RE: fun ! - 10/29/2012 9:28:55 PM   
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Wait, I didn't see any active partisans. Last time I checked, the best of them reached 60% TOE. Am I supposed to do something with them, or do they work automatically, like the RR units? How do I know a partisan is now active? Also, there is nothing in the log that my VVS bombers help the partisans...


An active partisan has only the letter "P" in it, not "PC". As long as you have transports/bombers flying supply to them, the VVs will help the partisans, but I have yet to see alot of them in -41.


Terje

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RE: fun ! - 10/29/2012 11:14:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I have found out on F11 that my bombers fly those supplies, as well as some attacks by the partisans, so all is well in that department. Now I'm dealing with 50 000+ men in support units that tried to hide from war in Ural HQ. Why would they need 7 RR construction brigades there?! Damn those automated SU assignments, no more of them, thank you :-)

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RE: fun ! - 10/30/2012 8:57:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		The best thing you can do there is to set the support level to 0, and at least the units that are not construction or sapper won't stick there.

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RE: fun ! - 10/30/2012 10:35:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		The RR units were moved for free as well due to M.D. special rule. However, I used the support level 0 thing to move support units out of 7th Indepentent Army. I still don't get it - does it cost 1 AP to assign SU from Stavka to subordinate units (unlike on-map units)? So it's the same cost as building a new SU?

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RE: fun ! - 10/31/2012 8:56:53 AM   
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RE: fun ! - 11/1/2012 4:26:53 PM   
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i begin to prepare in the north

some more russian destroyed
2 rifle and a cav div + an airborne X (total 145 AP)




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