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RE: test of will ! - 1/18/2013 7:57:05 PM   
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RE: test of will ! - 1/20/2013 8:41:23 AM   
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losses in attack
6 140 men, 115 art, 24 afv & 203 AC (40 Util) axis
19 110 " ", 335 " ", 143 "" & 246 "" russia

pool
50 945 men 208 700 veh 113 381 arm 18 hiwis

end of turn
1 680/ 2 190 afv germany




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RE: test of will ! - 1/28/2013 11:00:10 AM   
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turn 64 some mud in central russia

losses this time
5 910 men, 115 art, 44 afv & 94 AC axis
10 630 " ", 205 " ", 136 "" & 125 " russia

german pool
29 390 men (23 550 transit)
210 100 veh
122 704 arm & 6 hiwi




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RE: test of will ! - 1/29/2013 5:37:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't be putting those tank corps right up front as Morvael is doing...well that's just me.
They need a quite a bit of time away from bad combat ( losing battles ) to train up to their morale, and facing superior enemy formations ( Germans ) is not a good setup.

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RE: test of will ! - 1/29/2013 9:26:02 AM   
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this turn (october first) i attack a stack of 2 tanks and a mech corps
this create serious losses

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RE: test of will ! - 1/29/2013 9:30:28 AM   
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in front of Stalino there is no combat, gaining ground by move each at his time

pool
35 760 men
210 k veh
130 942 arm & 19 H

losses
10 050 men, 220 art, 47 afv & 134 AC axis
30 200 " ", 550 " ", 322 "" & 174 "" russia

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RE: test of will ! - 1/29/2013 9:32:07 AM   
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RE: test of will ! - 1/29/2013 9:55:55 AM   
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I wouldn't be putting those tank corps right up front as Morvael is doing...well that's just me.
They need a quite a bit of time away from bad combat ( losing battles ) to train up to their morale, and facing superior enemy formations ( Germans ) is not a good setup.


I see this in other way. I need to keep my front strong. Tank Corps go to worst gaps (no fort or level 1) since they have highest CV of units available to me (5-7 versus 4-5 of Cav Corps and 2-3 of Rifle Divs). In this AP constrained world, I have not spent 400 APs to build units that will spend their time in the rear (and since I have total lack of AP I don't build Rifle Corps for now, since in the future they might be cheaper, unless an emergency happens - as did a turn ago). And the tank casualties are a joke, I have 7000 tanks in the pool and 9500 in the line. This just helps me to burn through all those old KV and T-34 models that have been already paid for. And their experience is not that bad, by combat they see an increase of exp. Sure, worst battered ones are taken to the rear and replaced by those from the quiet sectors (now I'm organizing 2nd and 3rd Tank Army). Currently 6 Tank Corps are under 50 morale, 14 have 50+ (50 is now their base morale since Sept. 42).

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RE: test of will ! - 2/1/2013 8:03:55 AM   
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offensive continue slowly

pool
35 090 men
211 200 veh
121 909 arm
7 hiwi




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RE: test of will ! - 2/1/2013 8:07:49 AM   
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so long we did not destroy 200+ tank (without light)
158 vs 213 AC
1.06.27 seem very dangerous for my air units (bombers)




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RE: test of will ! - 2/1/2013 8:33:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you ( Morvael ) keep putting up those 3 unit stacks you may be facing a bunch of routs when the stacks do not hold.

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RE: test of will ! - 2/1/2013 9:28:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like my routs better than Germans driving deep into my lines :) What you see is more dramatic version of what I see, because at the start of my turn most of those units rally.

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RE: test of will ! - 2/3/2013 8:12:36 AM   
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taking back some ground around Tula

pool
31 400 men
210 800 veh
110 419 arm
19 hiwis




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RE: test of will ! - 2/3/2013 8:18:08 AM   
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10 450 men, 225 art, 55 AFV & 113 AC ax
20 140 " ", 380 " ",163 " " & 175 "" Ru




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RE: test of will ! - 2/4/2013 8:49:40 AM   
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bad news: richard Ruoff has been killed in his bunker by partisans

pool
24 060 men, 210 300 VEH, 99 825 ARM & 5 Hi

losses this time
8 320 men, 160 art, 25 AFV & 102 AC
27 390 " ", 500 " ",278 " " & 206 ""




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RE: test of will ! - 2/4/2013 9:54:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Was his stats good ones? I have not lost a commander for a long time (15 turns maybe) - but because I had to close in my HQs (due to mud), I expect new casualties to appear soon.

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RE: test of will ! - 2/7/2013 10:49:59 AM   
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there is 2 "arrows" that i don't attack each has 2 divs and a corp
i would prefer them to go away themselves

pool
15 520 men, 212 700 VEH, 95 987 ARM & 1 hiwi

losses as usual
9 010 men, 190 art, 029 AFV & 214 AC
23 130 " ", 445 " ", 236 " " & 188 ""




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RE: test of will ! - 2/7/2013 11:01:35 AM   
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RE: test of will ! - 2/9/2013 12:58:05 PM   
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losses
2 040 men, 35 art, 11 afv & 1AC (taking some time to recover)
3 710 " ", 90 " ", 38 " " & 3 "

pool
16 160 men
211 800 VEH
98 146 ARM
9 Hiwis




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RE: test of will ! - 2/9/2013 10:07:01 PM   
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RE: test of will ! - 2/11/2013 9:02:16 AM   
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no need for a picture

pool
13 273 men
206 300 VEH
111 337 ARM
3 hiwis

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RE: test of will ! - 2/13/2013 7:19:46 AM   
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only 1 successfull attack, i begin to fight rifle corps

losses
5 780 men, 100 art, 36 AFV & 2 AC axis
4 430 " ", 90 " ", 82 " " & 8 ""

pool
13 870 men, 208 k VEH, 125 509 ARM & 3 hiwi




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RE: test of will ! - 2/15/2013 7:55:38 AM   
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waiting for the river to freeze
Luftwaffe units begin to arrive

pool
18 950 men, 208 500 VEH, 134 706 ARM & 18 Hiwis

losses from my attacks
2 460 men, 50 art, 6 afv & 2 AC germany
7 880 " ", 170 "", 33 "" & 11 AC




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RE: test of will ! - 2/16/2013 11:07:20 AM   
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"river" as frozen now possible to attack across
i want the hex where is a Tank corp (8-36) for my rail

pool
31 610 men
209 600 VEH
151 729 ARM (+17 k)
18 hiwis




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RE: test of will ! - 2/16/2013 11:09:11 AM   
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AC 10 axis vs 18




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RE: test of will ! - 2/19/2013 10:41:29 AM   
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Don has been "cleared" up to Voronezh

losses
6 120 men, 120 art, 43 AFV & 9 AC
13 220 " ", 270 " ",133 " " & 24 ac

active pool
39 580men, 210 800 VEH, 157 291 ARM & 7 Hiwis




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RE: test of will ! - 2/19/2013 11:48:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		My supply situation worsens, as first mud and now winter causes a lot of damage to the trucks. I'm now just holding and waiting for the 1943 lend lease for salvation :)

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RE: test of will ! - 2/19/2013 12:05:07 PM   
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The Axis have so much in the South that they must be weak in the North.If I was playing the SU I'd be thinking about making trouble up there.

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RE: test of will ! - 2/19/2013 1:08:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess they are weaker but without a single corps to spare I can't break through level 3 forts for now, so I'm happy with a stalemate there. Also, some creative accounting by Leningrad and Northwest Front commanders allowed me to send more forces to the south without really weakening those fronts. Actually, I'm a very defensive player, so I attack only where I see 90%+ chances of success and take no risks as to counterattacks and encirclements. That makes for a boring game, I know. At least I have not lost a single unit in '42.

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RE: test of will ! - 2/19/2013 3:00:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is true that you don't need to take any chances to win when playing the SU, but I think you've reached the kind of force advantage here where you can start to think offensively.I would maybe take a third of the units in the South and attack in the North.
The Axis are only really dangerous at this stage if you allow them to concentrate locally.I would prevent them from doing this by applying pressure across the whole front and so forcing them to disperse their strength.

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