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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 10/30/2012 2:30:28 PM   
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KB moves normally but the Wake Invasion Amhibious TF decides to warp speed. This "feature" that I see for the first time in the 1117 beta we play is incredibly annoying and has already cost me a lot of fuel, system and engine damage to ships and almost blew the Singkawang operation. About every other TF that is moving uses flank speed for at least 12 hours a day, for no reason, and even if forced to use cruising speed. After this turn KB and the amphibious TF should have been in adjacent hexes, but because the amphibious TF flanked(which its fuel situation doesnt allow it to do - or they wont be sailing back to Truk or even Eniwetok...), they ended up 3 hex apart.

I first thought that this was an issue with the old TFs, the ones that exist in the beginning of the scenario, but I now see that its not true. After the second turn's stupid warp jump that cost ridiculous amount of fuel the KB has behaved normally. The Heavy Cover BB TF did not, nor did many cruiser and amphibious TFs. The CA/CL & DD raider squadrons that I created using ships in KB, MKB, in ports and in amphibious TFs also did this. MKB warped first turn but has behaved as it should after that. Mine sweeper TF I created at Kota Bharu decided to flank to Singkawang in less than 2 turns and nearly arrived before the protecting screen of CA and CL squadrons! Some TFs seem to do it all the time and some not at all. Theres no logic to it: its not TF type, mission, movement mode, movement speed(cruise or mission), reaction, retirement or not, patrol waypoints or not... Even using patrol zones(and setting first patrol point as the current hex), some TFs have flanked and others did not. Some important ships like AV Langley got escaped(or at least probably escaped) from Manila because of this - the raider TFs had reached their destination points and decided to retire, or had flanked through their patrol points and decided to head home as they were low on fuel the day after.


You have a tendency to be very attentive to things I just don't pay enough attention to during the game. I appreciate this!

Did the fuel use while docked get fixed, I can't remember?

This one is really bad if it's going against settings. Sounds like some of the problems with LR CAP sending planes past designated range limiters. I've noticed the KB warping from time to time when I didn't set that, but because I usually wanted it to get there faster anyway I didn't get too concerned. Maybe I should have. This was quite a few patches back, at the beginning of the game. I wonder if some kind of thing like this has always been in the game to some degree, but is magnified in recent patches for some reason.

I'll keep an eye out now to add to the thread in tech if I notice anything.




Hey obvert - btw this forum has waaay to many Eriks!

The fuel bug never got fixed and I fought with it until my opponent decided to finish with both of his PBEMs. Eventually it actually did stop at Rabaul(with only the ACMs still using fuel to tender minefields, but thats what they did and should do everywhere else too) but KB and some other TFs kept doing it. Even after I disbanded and reformed the TFs. I havent seen that happen yet in the current game but OTOH there are few to no idle task forces at the moment that sit at port hexes with fuel available, but it could pop up again.

I'd rather have the fuel bug in 2-3 TFs in the entire fleet than than the flank speed bug in possibly half the navy every turn.

BTW I also had Ki-43s overwrite their escort mission to Singapore and just stand on their thumbs. Target was cleared and there was no report of why they did not fly. The bombers did, from the same base. Luckily there was no CAP left any more. Over Manila it got worse... I should have had 10+ Ki-27s over Manila, which was the set target, but not one Ki-27s showed up and the G4Ms were slaughtered. Later some Ki-27s showed up outside of the max range I had given them only to shoot down a friggin SOC-1 Seagull that attacked the invasion fleet.

The flank speed bug, now that I notice it every turn in multiple key TFs, is making the game almost unplayable... Japan has no fuel to spare, no time to have half her fleet on yards repairing flank speed sys and engine damage, and definitely she cant afford to have any of the critical early war offensives fail because of something like that. It was already a close call at Singkawang when SCTFs decided to flank, reach destination and then retire, leaving amphbious TFs unprotected. Luckily I set some to remain on station and 2 SCTFs did not flank, and actually followed their orders(and did sink most of the Allied TF that was trying to intercept the amphic TFs).

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 10/31/2012 7:18:18 AM   
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Bump. Has anyone else observed similar TF behaviour in the recent betas? The game is pretty much unplayable right now - the TF movement is just too random, plus fuel burn and damage hurts.

EDIT: BTW, I remembered this only now, but I had one LCU, that was trying to block the rail from Alor Star to South, cancel its movement the turn it would have moved to the rail hex. Annoying, as that let a couple of enemy LCUs escape. I'm 100% sure it was still moving as I checked that LCU every turn to keep track of its progress while hoping the stat movement packing to take too much time for Alor Star units to escape.

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 10/31/2012 9:19:15 PM   
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December 15 1941

Kido Butai engaging enemy carriers near Wake Island! Looks like the plan worked after all. Stay tuned on!

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 10/31/2012 10:26:19 PM   
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December 15 1941 (cont.)


In a CV on CV battle near Wake Island, the Kido Butai has engaged the USN task force led by CV Lexington, and sunk most of it.

CA Portland, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Flusser, Bomb hits 1
CA Astoria, Bomb hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Porter, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Mahan
DD Lamson, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CA Chicago, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Drayton, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

CV Lexington, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Lamson, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


The Allied strike only had a light escort and was slaughtered. Just 19 planes made it through, and the only 2 hits scored were 500lbs bombs on BB Kirishima. On another note, out of the 140+ B5N2s attacking the Allied CVTF, only 5 hits were scored: 2 duds on Lexington, 1 on a crippled DD and 2 on crippled Chigago. Allies lost 84 planes this turn, including 12 Devastators "on ground" so looks like we got her.

After the CV "duel", USN planes from Wake attacked the IJN amphibious task force nearby, between KB and Wake. KB's LRCAP got 'em all.


Tenno heika banzai!

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 10/31/2012 11:36:32 PM   
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December 15 (cont.)

A very good day.


Malaya:

It looks like the Allied TFs in the Malacca Strait are heading OUT and not in! Kota Bharu's G4M1's sink about 8 or 9 more ships today and they are all carrying troops. Is this evacuation of Singapore by sea? Zeros skirmish with the Buffaloes that try to protect these convoys - Yamada Det S-1's elite pilots wipe them out without a loss.

Ki-43s escort Ki-21s to Singapore for the 3rd time, and the lone Buffalo found intercepting is promptly shot down. Singapore's airfield is moderately damaged.


Java Sea:

Japanese destroyers and Dutch submarines fight all night and day but no confirmed hits are scored... Well, they wont have many torpedoes or much fuel left once the operation to invade Sumatra begins.


Philippines:

Zeros sweep Manila and shoot down 5 P-40s to no loss. 13 P-40s attack the unloading IJN fleet near Aparri, but Ki-27s shoot down 3 of them! However 2 Ki-27s are also lost and one of the transports gets hit by a small bomb.

Japanese troops advance and are soon at the gates of Manila from both South and North. But the Allies have not yet evacuated to Bataan... Perhaps they will choose to hold in Manila? That would make my job easier as I doubt that the Allies will be able to move all, or even more than 60-70%, of the men on Luzon to Manila.


Pacific:

KB takes out CV Lexington, 2 CAs and 2 DDs to no naval losses. 2 A6M2s, 6 D3A1s and 1 B5N2 are lost to enemy fighters and AAA. Weather was Overcast and D3As hit their targets VERY well indeed, but B5Ns totally failed - just 5 hits with 2 duds and the 3 that went off were on cripples. Also majority of attacks targeted the 3 escorting heavy cruisers and the destroyers and not the CV - though the first attacks did target, hit, and damage it well so I guess the they decided to go for the others then.

12 Vindicators were admitted as lost aboard the Lexington, so the surviving Wildcats, Buffalos, Devastators and Dauntlesses must now be on Wake, minus ops losses and the ones shot down today(over 50 confirmed kills...).

Tomorrow its time to finish off the survivors, and the day after KB will hit Wake's airfield to remove the air threat for good. The planes now on Wake cannot be flown out, AFAIK, other than possible patrol planes or heavy bombers, with the range to reach Johnston or Midway. But those CV planes aren't going anywhere. The amphibious TF will move some distance away to wait for the KB to soften the target. On board are the 144th Infantry Regiment, engineers and a base force.


I guess I should include some screenshots in the next update... What do you think?

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/1/2012 9:21:00 AM   
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December 15 (cont.)

A very good day.

Pacific:

KB takes out CV Lexington, 2 CAs and 2 DDs to no naval losses. 2 A6M2s, 6 D3A1s and 1 B5N2 are lost to enemy fighters and AAA. Weather was Overcast and D3As hit their targets VERY well indeed, but B5Ns totally failed - just 5 hits with 2 duds and the 3 that went off were on cripples. Also majority of attacks targeted the 3 escorting heavy cruisers and the destroyers and not the CV - though the first attacks did target, hit, and damage it well so I guess the they decided to go for the others then.

12 Vindicators were admitted as lost aboard the Lexington, so the surviving Wildcats, Buffalos, Devastators and Dauntlesses must now be on Wake, minus ops losses and the ones shot down today(over 50 confirmed kills...).

Tomorrow its time to finish off the survivors, and the day after KB will hit Wake's airfield to remove the air threat for good. The planes now on Wake cannot be flown out, AFAIK, other than possible patrol planes or heavy bombers, with the range to reach Johnston or Midway. But those CV planes aren't going anywhere. The amphibious TF will move some distance away to wait for the KB to soften the target. On board are the 144th Infantry Regiment, engineers and a base force.


I guess I should include some screenshots in the next update... What do you think?


Yes! Screenshots!

Well done. Looks like he got a bit careless there and you surely made him pay.

Strange about the TBs. What was the weather like?

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/1/2012 1:52:38 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Erkki

December 15 (cont.)

A very good day.

Pacific:

KB takes out CV Lexington, 2 CAs and 2 DDs to no naval losses. 2 A6M2s, 6 D3A1s and 1 B5N2 are lost to enemy fighters and AAA. Weather was Overcast and D3As hit their targets VERY well indeed, but B5Ns totally failed - just 5 hits with 2 duds and the 3 that went off were on cripples. Also majority of attacks targeted the 3 escorting heavy cruisers and the destroyers and not the CV - though the first attacks did target, hit, and damage it well so I guess the they decided to go for the others then.

12 Vindicators were admitted as lost aboard the Lexington, so the surviving Wildcats, Buffalos, Devastators and Dauntlesses must now be on Wake, minus ops losses and the ones shot down today(over 50 confirmed kills...).

Tomorrow its time to finish off the survivors, and the day after KB will hit Wake's airfield to remove the air threat for good. The planes now on Wake cannot be flown out, AFAIK, other than possible patrol planes or heavy bombers, with the range to reach Johnston or Midway. But those CV planes aren't going anywhere. The amphibious TF will move some distance away to wait for the KB to soften the target. On board are the 144th Infantry Regiment, engineers and a base force.


I guess I should include some screenshots in the next update... What do you think?


Yes! Screenshots!

Well done. Looks like he got a bit careless there and you surely made him pay.

Strange about the TBs. What was the weather like?


Weather was overcast... Japanese torpedoes havent really shined in this game. Netties and B5Ns have had trouble scoring hits even on merchants. Many ships have escaped air- and submarine launched torpedoes and I'm already considering about keeping CV TB unit sizes as they are and expand dive bombers when I can do that in summer of 1942. I might also give some boost to the D4Y and B7A programs.

And then the duds: Type 93 Long Lances have had 2 duds(the other dud is the only Type 93 hit on a warship so far), while submarines have had 3 duds, of 2 were on DDs around Hawaii. Without those duds we'd have bagged a Dutch CL, 2 modern USN destroyers and a handful of civilian ships including a big TK - I-154 attacked TK Augustina 3 times shooting 2, 2 and 4 torpedoes, but every shot missed. Netties and B5Ns have had the usual 10% of duds. Dud rates are the usual 10% in DBB C, too, so I've just been unlucky.

OTOH Allied subs have also dud twice on Japanese DDs near Singkawang. But that just evens out what they did to CL Isuzu.

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/2/2012 12:44:12 PM   
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Malaya/DEI:

There are nearly a hundred ships in the Malacca Strait heading NW and towards the Indian Ocean. Multiple convoys will escape overnight... G4Ms and G3Ms from Kota Bharu sortied to attack these escapees all day long, and managed to sink many merchants as well as some Dutch gunships and auxiliary military vessels. CL Java and CL Tromp were attacked sighted and attacked near Singapore, but the attacking G3Ms for some reason were armed with bombs only, and no hits were scored. 1 G4M was lost to a Buffalo fighter, while escorting Zeros and Ki-43s shot down at least 4 Buffalos to no loss.

Ki-21s bombed Singapore's port and hit the ships in it well. CL Danae and DD Peary were hit once each... Man are the Allied ships tough to kill sometimes. :(

In the Java Sea there are about 20 warships sighted at Palembang and nearby, mostly heading out. Are the Allies really pulling back? A6M2s sweeping Palembang met a very heavy CAP of over 40 fighters: CW-21 Demons, Hawk 75s and B-339s. 3 Zeros and 2 pilots were lost for 6 kills. Not a very good ratio but the Dutch fighter force MUST be reduced, and the sooner that is done, the better.


Celebes Sea:

Manado is invaded and will probably fall tomorrow. We have 1 Marine battalion, an aviation support company and a base force... Bombers and Zeros will be flown in ASAP.


Pacific:

Kido Butai pursues the fleeing survivors of the Lexington Task Force. CA Portland is attacked again but weather protects her... Shes still on fire and now with 7 more hits, of 3 penetrated deck armor. Besides Portland, naval search only finds 2 destroyers... No sign of CVs or the 2 other CAs, so things are going great it'd seem.

Wake Island will be invaded tomorrow by the 144th Infantry Regiment, a Base Force and an Engineer battalion. Kido Butai is divided into CarDivs - Hiryu and Soryu will pursue the Portland and make sure that its dead. At this point I believe that it is worth it to use a day of KB's time to make sure that the Allies have a good CA less - after all the CAs are the most useful warships out there, right after CVs. The rest of the KB will support the invasion of Wake Island by hitting the airfield and the garrison.

Screenshots coming later...

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/2/2012 2:52:32 PM   
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KB, Wake and survivors of the Lexington TF.




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Allied TFs between Palembang and Singapore - all of them have warships (or so the naval air search says).




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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/2/2012 2:59:16 PM   
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Allied convoys flee to NW... Everything from light cruisers and tankers to merchants, gunships and torpedo boats there!




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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/3/2012 3:57:25 PM   
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December 17 1941

Another good day to the Empire(with some luck)!


Kido Butai:

A USN submarine attacks KB in the night and hits CV Akagi. The torpedo is reported to explode, but Akagi suffers no damage. FOW - phew!

Hiryu and Soryu pursued the fleeing enemy, but found only the DD Mahan that was still intact. D3A dive bombers sunk it!

The rest of the KB attacked Wake Island. A Zero was lost(pilot OK) to 2 Wildcats(the only ones that took off to defend), and the island's garrison was hit hard. Wake will be invaded tomorrow!


Malaya & DEI:

Near Palembang, a Japanese CL & DD squadron meets the patrolling Dutchmen and makes mince meat out of them. Long Lances score 2 kills in this brutal nocturnal point-blank range encounter.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkep at 49,87, Range 1,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Jintsu
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Arare
DD Kasumi
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
CL Java
CL Tromp, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 1
DD Van Nes, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is SUNK

DD Van Nes sunk by CL Jintsu at 1,000 yards


CL Tromp was left in sinking condition and most probably did not survive the night. DD Yudachi suffered only minor damage...

In daylight, IJNAF attacked and sunk about 10 ships with both torpedoes and bombs. Many are still left!

Also, Japanese submarines in the area managed to sink 2 merchantmen and 2 tankers. Banzai to that!

Manado fell to the IJN Marines. Time to fly in the bombers and recon aircraft!


Burma: looks like the Allies are reinforcing the Andaman Islands, so 3 Paratrooper companies might not be enough to take them, and naval invasion is out of question as long as Singapore holds. Hmm...

New Guinea: 2 IJN AMC armed merchant raiders catch a convoy of 2 troop transports escorted by 2 gunships near Port Moresby. They're all hit hard and left to sink, Banzai!



Day Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 95,130, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Aikoku Maru
AMC Hokoku Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
PC Swan, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Moresby, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Malaita, Shell hits 4, on fire
xAP Morinda, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage


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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/3/2012 5:02:11 PM   
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A good few days. Nice to see you make use of those South Seas AMCs. Well done. How did their exp go after that one? They could be tough ships if they survive a few battles and get good levels of exp.

For your sweeps against the Dutch if you can put another group in there, I often find that the second arriving will do better after the first weakens the CAP.

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/3/2012 7:39:50 PM   
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A good few days. Nice to see you make use of those South Seas AMCs. Well done. How did their exp go after that one? They could be tough ships if they survive a few battles and get good levels of exp.

For your sweeps against the Dutch if you can put another group in there, I often find that the second arriving will do better after the first weakens the CAP.


Their experiences jumped from 23 to 55 and 23 to 67 (actually 21 to 22 and then 23 since the beginning of the campaign - they already engaged 2 enemy TFs with unescorted merchants but they failed to close in).

Dutch fighter force hasnt been a problem yet, but for reducing the Palembang fighters I'll need more Zeros at Singkawang... I think I'll use Hosho-1 or Zuiho-1 from Singkawang. Or just use the CVLs themselves.

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/4/2012 3:21:07 AM   
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That's quite an experience jump. Nice!

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RE: Name the AAR! Erkki(J) vs. Roger Neilson (A) (No Ro... - 11/5/2012 6:30:33 AM   
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Okay, so while we wait for the next turn, I thought to write down some of my thoughts regarding the Case Lexington.


Apparently my opponent had picked up some Vindicator dive bombers from Pearl and wanted to reinforce Wake with them. As the Kido Butai attacked Manila, he thought he'd have the time to do that. CV Lexington was sunk only 4 hex from Wake which is much, much closer than the Lexington TF needed to be to deliver the dive bombers or extract the F4F squadron. Why were they so close? Did he do that in hopes of catching an invasion fleet? What was his intel, known and unknown factors, on the Kido Butai? I am 100% positive that he must have seen the KB first attack Manila and then sail South to Mindanao where KB's Zeros fought off the P-26s. After this, CVL Ryujo entered the Celebes Sea and has been patrolling it since. Ryujo's 9 B5Ns have sunk 10 ships already, averaging one a day! Did Roger think that KB would stay with the Ryujo(or the other way around)? Is this why he has not contested the landings at Mindanao or Manado(in Celebes) or sent even destroyer patrols? If yes, where are his patrol planes - why did he not use them to make sure that the KB actually is where he presumed it to be?

Its also possible that he KB to be on its way and thought he could take the risk and get away with it. But why move Lexington that close then, why not keep CAP % high or fly Wake's VMF-211 aboard the Lex? KB had taken the most direct route to Wake and had been rendervouzed and refueled by a replenishment AO TF that had waited in anchor in a nearby Super Secret Hideout. KB had also used full speed of 28 knots(Kaga's flank speed) for a day.

Theres still something I got to give Roger. Though I can see that hes reinforcing Palembang's garrison(booooring!!) and mining the sea hexes around it, he has also been an active opponent so far. After only 10 turns, the naval losses have been greater than in the 200+ turns of my last game!!!


Naval losses

Nihon Kaigun:

CL Isuzu (sunk by a submarine)
1 TB (sunk by RN DDs)
1 DMS (97 floatation damage and about to sink, will be sunk by a submarine)
2 PC (actually they were probably very old, re-designated DDs, sunk by RN DDs)
1 AMc tiny coastal minesweeper(sunk by strafing P-40s)
The SSX minisubmarines at Pearl Harbor

No other losses - of any kind!

Allies:
CV Enterprise
CA Astoria
CA Chicago
CA Portland
CL Dragon
CL Durban
CL Danae (has been hit by 10+ shells, 2 torpedoes and 2x 250kg bombs, at Singapore, probably sunk or sinking at the moment)
CL Tromp
4 old USN DDs
1 Dutch DD
1 modern RN DD
1 DM (Thracian)
3 or 4 modern USN DDs

At least 16 submarines!

Crapload of other shipping, with big fat xAPs and TKs... We're getting close to 200 confirmed sinkings!

Important damaged ships:
CL Mauritius (I have no idea how badly, but she did suffer multiple 200mm hits through the belt armor)
CL Java (probably just a scratch)
3-4 DDs (at least 1, DD Peary, has suffered heavily and will most probably not escape Singapore)
12-13 submarines, mainly at Manila, everything from heavy damage from bomb hits to depth charges

Its been a pretty fun game so far.

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December 18 1941

Another day in schedule(or nearly), with a minor setback... More about that later.


Burma:

The Allies have over 120 planes at Rangoon with multiple convoys, probably unloading supplies or loading troops to be evacuated. I dunno. Pisanuloke's airfield doesnt have enough supply to support drop tanks so the 2 Ki-43 Sentais dont have quite the (normal) range to reach Rangoon... So instead they will tomorrow sweep the adjacent base, Pegu, while Ki-21s bomb the troops.

Also tomorrow, 2 Marine paratrooper battalions will be dropped at Port Blair in the Andamans by Army transports. There are ships there too but I give 50/50% to take the place tomorrow.


DEI/Malaya:

In the night, Imperial and Allied navies struggled. CL Sendai TF first ran into 4 small minesweepers and sunk them all. Then the Heavy Cover TF with BBs Kongo and Haruna ran into what was probably every single Dutch PT boat in the DEI. They were all sunk to no losses.

After this, an Allied CL Squadron led by CL De Ruyter somehow passed through the screen of Japanese CL, CA and BB Ts and found the 8 minesweepers that I had reserved for clearing the minefield off Palembang... Well, that only means that instead of the 10 minesweepers that were in the plan, we'll have to go with 2. Lol. This probably isnt so bad though as the Allies have hit their own minefield now about a dozen times as they've cruised to and from Palembang.

In the day phase, the De Ruyter TF met and engaged the Sendai Squadron. 2 Imperial destroyers were moderately damaged in this battle(but will survive), but 2 Allied destroyers were hit hard and the rest of the Allied ships are now definitely out of torpedoes and have probably used up most of their ammo.

IJN submarines sunk at least 5 more (civilian) ships in the area, while IJNAF bombers took out at least 4 more. IJAAF bombers struck Singapore and scored a direct 250kg bomb hit on a submarine in the port!! Zeros from Kota Bharu and Singkawang escorted bombers and flew LRCAP over the battleships. They engaged Dutch and RAF fighters and bombers and shot down at least 1 Buffalo, 3 B-339s(also Buffalos) and 3 139WH bombers + a Wirraway(never seen these in action before!) to no loss. Slowly but steadily we are reducing the Allied air strength in the area: the Allies will get no air reinforcements any soon, if they dont choose to use the US AVG and its H-81s from Burma.

Tomorrow the IJN invasion fleet will rendervouz in the middle of the sea, while fighters and bombers from Singkawang, CVL Zuiho and CVE Hosho will provide support. 3 more very powerful surface combat task forces are moved in the area. Air units in Malaya will continue their task of hitting the fleeing shipping and Singapore.

The Sumatra Invasion Force has the 4th Infantry Division, 2 battalions of SNLF Marines, 3 mechanized recon companies, some artillery, 2 engineering regiments, aviation support battalions and a base force unit. The amphibious TFs themselves dont have anything bigger than DDs and CLs embedded, but air cover is provided from Zuiho & Hosho + about half of the IJN submarine force and 1/3 of Imperial surface fleet is in the area. There are also some reserves.

Depending on how tomorrow goes I will choose between landing directly at Palembang and landing at Oosthaven in the South instead. The last is probably the safer option mines and surface threat wise, but it does have its own risks.


Pacific: Wake Island falls!!!! The Kido Butai will now retire.

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Looks like this game is over.

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ORIGINAL: Erkki

Looks like this game is over.


Wow. Sorry to hear that. It was a bit quick. What happened?

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