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Struggle of Nations - 12/15/2002 4:59:18 AM

Preuss

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This was probably my second favourite wargame of all time. EIA was the first.

It had all the major characters, and unsurpassed detail in a corps sized game. I never gotr to play it much, because working out the attrition was too much for most guys.

Did any of you ever play it?

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- 12/15/2002 5:15:37 AM

Le Tondu

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I never played it, but it sounds like a perfect project to have converted to computer.

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Oh, yeah - 12/15/2002 5:38:48 AM

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All of those Kevin Zucker games were good. This might have been the best.

The Emperor Returns, a Zucker game published by Clash of Arms, is easily the best operational-level study of the Waterloo campaign. This system does a better job of handling leadership and corps-level organization of Napoleonic-era armies than any other I have seen. Besides, the counters and map are truly beautiful.

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- 12/16/2002 12:04:57 AM

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I always enjoyed Hundred Days Battles, which used a similar system, but was a bit more playable than Struggle of Nations (which I own but have never played). But it is a great system and would make a great computer game, especially since you could easily add Fog Of War.

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- 12/16/2002 3:11:15 AM

pasternakski

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I think we're on to something here, guys. Let's encourage Matrix to explore the possibilities with Clash of Arms games (which owns the copyright to most of this stuff, except SoN. I have no idea who controls that one, what with Avalon Hill's shameful sellout to Hasbro a few years back).

Maybe somebody ought to go out and find Zucker and talk to him ....

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Napoleonic Games - 12/16/2002 9:42:30 AM

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Kevin Zucker designs games for "Operational Studies Group" -> http://www.napoleongames.com/index.cfm

I have one of his boardgames -> La Route du Kremlin, it's very good.

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- 12/16/2002 9:50:22 AM

jnier

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It would indeed be interesting to see what Kevin Zucker had to say about making a computer version of Struggle of Nations. You can probably contact him by sending an email to OSG. Here's their email address:

[email]questions@napoleongames.com[/email]

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