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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 6:45:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another carrier battle from summer of 1945... CAP set 15,000 feet.. Divebombers 11,000 feet and Torpedo planes 7,000 feet.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 103,75

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 42
B6N1 Jill x 18
D4Y4 Judy x 18



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 11
Hellcat I x 8
Seafire IIC x 6
FM-2 Wildcat x 16
F4U-1A Corsair x 13
F6F-3 Hellcat x 83


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 4 destroyed
B6N1 Jill: 9 destroyed
D4Y4 Judy: 9 destroyed

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
VC(F)-91 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-91 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
No.851 Sqn-FF FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
No.800 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
No.880 Sqn FAA with Seafire IIC (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
No.881 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
No.1830 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-27 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-82 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-84 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-85 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-86 with FM-2 Wildcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-87 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 9 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-88 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-96 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-97 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-98 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 103,75

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 25
B6N2 Jill x 17
B7A2 Grace x 26
D4Y3 Judy x 27



Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 10
Hellcat I x 7
Seafire IIC x 6
FM-2 Wildcat x 13
F4U-1A Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 75


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 7 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
B7A2 Grace: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 11 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Hollandia
CV Indomitable
CVE Thetis Bay
BB Washington
CLAA Atlanta
CV Illustrious
CVE Makassar Strait
CVE Makin Island



Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VC(F)-91 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VC(F)-91 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
2 planes vectored on to bombers
No.851 Sqn-FF FAA with Hellcat I (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
No.880 Sqn FAA with Seafire IIC (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
No.881 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
No.1830 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-27 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-84 with F6F-3 Hellcat (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-87 with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-88 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-96 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-97 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-98 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
No.800 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-82 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-85 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-86 with FM-2 Wildcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers

Banzai! - Nikaido T. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kotani R. in a D4Y3 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Kawasaki R. in a D4Y3 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 102,78

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 106
B6N2a Jill x 21
B7A2 Grace x 101
D4Y3 Judy x 60
D4Y4 Judy x 72



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 3
F6F-3 Hellcat x 135
F6F-5 Hellcat x 82


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 11 destroyed
B6N2a Jill: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
B6N2a Jill: 2 destroyed by flak
B7A2 Grace: 18 destroyed, 25 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 8 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 23 destroyed, 9 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 10 destroyed by flak
D4Y4 Judy: 16 destroyed, 17 damaged
D4Y4 Judy: 5 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVL Princeton, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hancock, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Boston, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Marcus Island, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 1
BB Alabama, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire
CV Intrepid, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB South Dakota, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CV Essex
CV Franklin, Torpedo hits 1, Kamikaze hits 1
CVL Cabot
CVE Manila Bay, Bomb hits 3, Kamikaze hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Rudyerd Bay, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CVE Petrof Bay, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Hornet II, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Ommaney Bay, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Nehenta Bay
DD Bradford, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage



Aircraft Attacking:
10 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
12 x B6N2a Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
2 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
7 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
8 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
2 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
10 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
7 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
5 x B7A2 Grace launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
5 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x B6N2a Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
3 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 10000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
2 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y4 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
VF-33 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.851 Sqn-FF FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VC(F)-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VC(F)-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-7 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F6F-5 Hellcat (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-5 Hellcat (1 airborne, 11 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 7 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 7 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
17 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-27 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

Banzai! - Ibusuki N. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Ibusuki N. gives his life for the Emperor by ramming CVE Marcus Island
Matsunaga A. gives his life for the Emperor by ramming BB Alabama
Banzai! - Kanno W. in a D4Y4 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Oyama S. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Kawamura T. gives his life for the Emperor by ramming CV Intrepid
Banzai! - Minowa S. in a D4Y3 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Ammo storage explosion on CV Hornet II
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Rudyerd Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Rudyerd Bay
Banzai! - Abe T. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Abe T. gives his life for the Emperor by ramming CV Hancock
Banzai! - Obayashi U. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Ammo storage explosion on CVL Princeton
Ammo storage explosion on CVL Princeton
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Manila Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Manila Bay
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Manila Bay
Okura D. gives his life for the Emperor by ramming CVE Manila Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Alabama
Banzai! - Kawakubo T. in a D4Y3 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hancock
Banzai! - Ikeda A. in a B7A2 Grace is willing to die for the Emperor
Banzai! - Morioka P. in a D4Y3 Judy is willing to die for the Emperor
Ammo storage explosion on CV Franklin
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB South Dakota


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 102,78

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 9



Allied aircraft
Hellcat I x 1
F4U-1A Corsair x 3
F6F-3 Hellcat x 100
F6F-5 Hellcat x 63


Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses



CAP engaged:
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
VF-33 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
No.851 Sqn-FF FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VC(F)-68 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VC(F)-94 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
VC(F)-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
VC(F)-93 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
VC(F)-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VF-7 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
VF-9 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 12 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
VF-10 with F6F-5 Hellcat (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VF-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
VF-23 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
VF-27 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
VC(F)-75 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
VC(F)-76 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 105,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 90



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 19
F6F-5 Hellcat x 16
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 56


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 26 destroyed, 5 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 2 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CVL Chitose
CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Shimane Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
CVL Chiyoda
CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 5, on fire
CVE Yamashiro Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Fuyuzuki



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
2 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Kaga-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1/A with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1/C with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/B with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/C with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Ryuho-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Shimane Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 104,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 169



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 33
F6F-5 Hellcat x 29
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 24
TBM-1C Avenger x 45


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 8 destroyed
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 2 destroyed by flak
TBM-1C Avenger: 24 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CV Taiho
CV Shinano
CV Kasagi
CV Katsuragi
CV Hiryu
CV Kaga



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 11000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kaga-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Shinano-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 35760.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 105,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 66



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 18
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 23


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 11 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CLAA Abukuma



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Shokaku-1/A with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1/C with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/B with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/C with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Ryuho-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 105,71

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 47



Allied aircraft
F6F-5 Hellcat x 33
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 21
TBM-1C Avenger x 14


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 11 destroyed
TBM-1C Avenger: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 3 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CVL Chitose
CV Shokaku
CVL Chiyoda
CVE Shinyo, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Shimane Maru, heavy fires



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
Shokaku-1/A with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/B with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Akagi-1/C with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Ryuho-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1/C with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Shimane Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 104,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 125



Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7
F6F-5 Hellcat x 17
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 31
TBM-1C Avenger x 15
TBM-3 Avenger x 19


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 5 destroyed
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 8 destroyed, 7 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-1C Avenger: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 destroyed by flak
TBM-3 Avenger: 12 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM-3 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CV Shinano
CV Aso
CV Amagi
CV Kaga
CV Unryu
CV Kasagi
CV Katsuragi



Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
1 x TBM-3 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
8 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
1 x TBM-3 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
3 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Kaga-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
Shinano-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 26100.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
14 planes vectored on to bombers



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 104,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A7M2 Sam x 88



Allied aircraft
Barracuda II x 3
Corsair II x 7
Hellcat I x 5
Seafire IIC x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 5
TBM-1C Avenger x 27


Japanese aircraft losses
A7M2 Sam: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hellcat I: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
TBM-1C Avenger: 7 destroyed, 7 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Unryu
CV Amagi
CV Aso
CV Katsuragi
CV Kasagi



Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Barracuda II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo
7 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
1 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
1 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
4 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo

CAP engaged:
Kaga-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Shinano-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
Taiho-1 with A7M2 Sam (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
Amagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Katsuragi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
Kasagi-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A7M2 Sam (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers


...again as Castor has said random as ever. Main problem being the massive strikes that use the fighters spunges.

The model in Air to air leaves a lot to be desired for and the flak is well not much either.

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 7:16:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just taking a step back and looking at all the results and the response of people to these results.

What would you think a reasonable result for intercepting raids?

edit:

The things you can do:
- Set altitude in the band where you expect the raid to come in
- Set sufficient CAP

I have started reducing escorts if expecting a carrier battle or expecting long range torpedo bombers to attack enemy CAPped shipping.. I try to guestimate the amount of fighters available to the other player, guestimate his CAP percentage and set the escorting fighters to about 2/3s of the expected CAP (or more if I don't have ships to protect with my fighters).

The fighters will take a beating but it is plausible that, even when outnumbered, escorting fighters can keep the CAP at bay for the most part in the window you have from DETECTION to ENTERING FLAK RANGE.

If your CAP outnumers the enemy escort by sufficient number you'll be able to shoot down bombers disrupting the strike and it's effectiveness... That is what is important!

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 7:43:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder


What would you think a reasonable result for intercepting raids?




That's easy, I think there's a clear pattern. Every time I get result I like, it's reasonable. Every time I get result I don't like, the air model leaves lot to be desire...

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 7:59:48 PM   
JocMeister

 

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Very interesting.

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 8:09:54 PM   
KenchiSulla


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Puhis


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder


What would you think a reasonable result for intercepting raids?




That's easy, I think there's a clear pattern. Every time I get result I like, it's reasonable. Every time I get result I don't like, the air model leaves lot to be desire...


So true... and not just true for the air game. It was absolutely outrageous that BB Haruna took 3 torpedo hits from US destroyers in a night fight.. We all know US destroyers are crap at torpedoing anything...



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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 8:21:35 PM   
aztez

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Puhis


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder


What would you think a reasonable result for intercepting raids?




That's easy, I think there's a clear pattern. Every time I get result I like, it's reasonable. Every time I get result I don't like, the air model leaves lot to be desire...



Definately... it is called AE airwar random generator. Nothing else and nothing less.

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/20/2012 10:16:30 PM   
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If we are talking about the air war in general, claiming that the results are non-influencable rolls of the dice, is obviousely not true.
Every new player who stood up against a vet and got taught a lesson in appropriate air warfare can tell you that.
The combat results are to a certain part influenced by random events, but over time statistics even those random events out - when
luck turns one way and next time the other way - and the average result is measurably influenced by player settings.


There is a difference to carrier battles: those are often major single events where - compared to LBA combat - one or two days decides over
the outcome of a whole TOO for the next year.

This is the only major difference to LBA battles. It is a rare event! The rarer an event, the slower statistic build up.

This can leave the impression that carrier battles are not equally influenced by player action as LBA is, and frustrated players might conclude
that nothing they do has any impact on the battle outcome.

Which is wrong. Simple as that.

If you take the carrier battles in all the AARs as an example, you easily spot a tendency:
those players paying attention to their settings, use their assets in a more intelligent way, have an advantage in force relation, aircraft, or pilot
qualtiy, not per se but a combination of the list above, win carrier battles with a high probability.

Sure, there are exceptions to this rule, and these exceptions are often displayed and discussed the loudest, understandable because the player who
lost such a battle might say "I did everything right, why did I lose?", but they are relatively rare compared to the statistical norm.



And I´d like to point out something which is often forgotten when using the word "random" in this context:

The outcome of the Battle of Midway was for nearly 6 decades thought to be the result of a huge stroke of luck combined with exceptional heroism.
Exactly what I would translate into game terms as randomizer. Only in Shattered Sword, very recently, it was suggested that the outcome was not
as exceptional and lucky as it was thought since WWII.

Is it clear what this implies? It took historians and naval strategy theoreticians 60 years to get accustomed to the idea that Midway went exactly the
way force relations favoured, and was not the most heroic act in USN history against overwhelming odds. But those complaining here about a random
factor are convinced they are able to exclude the presence of any deciding factors governed by the player?

Hm.

Look at the other carrier battles in history which were not decided in advance (Marianas Turkey Shoot was decided in advance, if you set up the same conditions
in game you will probably see one IJN victory in 1000 engagements). Coral Sea? Solomons? In both those battles there were random events inlfluencing the final
battle outcome.



It is so funny: You could critizise the same random generator in WWII CV engagements. The only difference is the scale, there were no carrier engagements
which equal those happening in game.



Anyways, just a few c´s.
I just won a large carrier battle and am in the mood to celebrate. Must have been my lucky day...

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/21/2012 12:49:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		For everyone who is pondering whats going on here I have a youth photo from Castor Troy and LoBaron.

Here is the snapshot showing them both discussing the air system when they were a bit younger.






If you ask me then it is time for both to start a PBEM against each other

< Message edited by Gräfin Zeppelin -- 11/21/2012 12:58:40 AM >

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RE: WHAT HAPPENED TO CAP IN v1.06.1108r9 - 11/21/2012 7:04:34 AM   
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While I apreciate your input Gräfin, an enjoyable (is there any other that makes sense?) PBEM requires
the players to like, or at least at some level comprehend each other. This aint no WWII.

I can think of less masochistic ways to spend my precious spare time over the next 5 years.

I could poke at my eyeballs for example. With a toothpick.

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