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RE: April 1944 - 2/10/2017 6:13:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		John, can you advise how you use your subs ? It seems you have many hits with them, I mean 2 torp hits in 44 vs. the mighty Allied CV fleets: Do you use a patrol zones in 1 hex, or remain on station. And what about the orders - do you put them on "max agressive" or leave it at normal ?

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RE: April 1944 - 2/10/2017 8:30:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first thing I do on Dec 8, 1941 is change EVERY SS commander to someone AGGRESSIVE. Takes a lot of PP but it is needed. As subs enter service I do the same thing with strong comanders.

Once the war begins I like to cluster my SS into hunting packs of 5-7 SS with at least one Glen I-Boat included. Usually I set patrol paths so they are not easy to catch by staying stationary. Areas of operation get rotated so the enemy doesn't have the chance to concentrate ASW assets in one spot where there are ALWAYS SS. Finally, I put myself into my opponent's shoes and I ask where are his convoys traveling? Where is he going?

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 1:30:50 PM   
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The first thing I do on Dec 8, 1941 is change EVERY SS commander to someone AGGRESSIVE. Takes a lot of PP but it is needed. As subs enter service I do the same thing with strong comanders.

Once the war begins I like to cluster my SS into hunting packs of 5-7 SS with at least one Glen I-Boat included. Usually I set patrol paths so they are not easy to catch by staying stationary. Areas of operation get rotated so the enemy doesn't have the chance to concentrate ASW assets in one spot where there are ALWAYS SS. Finally, I put myself into my opponent's shoes and I ask where are his convoys traveling? Where is he going?

Hope that helps some.



Did you change the Glen carrying boats to aggressive commanders as well? I would think a cautious commander would suit them better to keep them around longer.

As an Allied sub commander I am starting to experiment with a few high skilled but cautious commanders. I have used all aggressive commanders in the past but wonder if that is the reason the subs target escorts so many times over the more valuable merchants. But with the virtual uselessness of Allied subs vs the merchants of a skilled player, I find myself opting to use my subs in conjunction with offensive operations in an effort to kill big Japanese warships. So perhaps I will just stick with high aggression.

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 2:56:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are correct. I still use aggressive commanders in my Glen I-Boats but instead of high-60s+, I look for better commanders somewhere in the mid-50s. If they see something--NICE--then attack but please keep the Emperor's boat afloat...

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 3:00:44 PM   
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Yesterday it was the commander of the I-200 that scored big on CV Sumatra.

TODAY it is I-199! The I-199 spots an American CVE TF NE of Davao and plants not one but TWO Torps into CVE Chenango. Add a fuel storage explosion and he gets to see the ship sink before his eyes. BANZAI! The crew endures one DC attack with little-to-no damage, then a second taking some damage, but it is the third DC attack that forces the boat (out of oxygen and battery power) to the surface where it then sinks...

Got the CVE (carrying 48 F4F) though!





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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 3:15:29 PM   
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Burma

I haven't written much about Burma because the Theatre is fairly irrelevant presently due to the Allied moves in the Philippines.

After a long period of stability, the Allies brought the kitchen sink into the northern and central part of Burma about 3-4 months ago. An orderly retreat was totally disrupted due to an armor attack that followed a retreat cutting off my rail going south. Lost two Infantry Divisions (both bought out and now rebuilding in Tokyo) with a third still being cut off.

A line was established at Bassein--Prome--Toungoo. It held for nearly 8 weeks while under continuous bomber attack (2EB but mostly 4EB). Somehow an Allied Inf Reg got in behind the lines south of Prome. Seeing the danger to the Japanese line, Dan began a 'right hook' coming around the Japanese line. Despite many attacks on the lone unit in that hex, it held while more Allied units arrived. The growing threat unhinged the line and the Japanese have begun another retreat southwards.

The new line is highlighted on the screenshot. With the consolidation of the line, several units can be pulled out for rebuilding. It is needed! Tomorrow will see Bassein units begin retreating into Rangoon. All Base Forces get their marching orders to head for Moulmein to deploy south and rebuild.

No reinforcements shall arrive here. These unit are it. They will have to make do and hold in the jungle. Luckily supplies are plentiful as the Allied aircraft have not shutdown Rangoon's Port or attacked ANY Japanese shipping.






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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 5:36:41 PM   
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Nearly forgot the truly momentous event of the day. Over the skies of Miri appear a large formation (60 Planes) of new 4EB. Flying at 15,000 Ft the dreaded B-29 Superfortress makes its combat debut. The bombs strike at the oil fields destroying 37 derricks.

My fear was Dan would announce these planes by doing a Port Strike first and then go after economic targets. Thankfully he does not so we're able to pull everything but ships undergoing repairs or refit.

There is a Sentai of Franks and Georges at each of the major Oil Centers (Tarakan, Balikpapan, Miri, and Brunei). They had been resting/training. Now they take to the skies. The next B-29 strike shall be met with serious resistance. We'll see how tough these new planes are...


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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 6:16:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where do you think the origin of their flight was, John? If I could find it, talk about bombardment bait!

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 6:21:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crsutton
I have used all aggressive commanders in the past but wonder if that is the reason the subs target escorts so many times over the more valuable merchants.


Back in the day, once upon a time, this was explained as a submarine being incapable of penetrating the screen (insufficient naval skill and / or aggression) and instead taking pot shots outside the screen at a nearby escort instead. In other words, the LOWER skills will tend towards this behavior more than HIGHER skills. Don't recall if it was 'naval' skill or 'aggression'.

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 6:35:38 PM   
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Got the CVE (carrying 48 F4F) though!


Nice shootin' Tex!

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 6:41:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		48 x F4F on that CVE... One would think that he would have his replenishment CVEs loaded with Hellcats, not Wildcats. This seems to indicate to me that the air attrition rate has been high enough to leave him equipping some of his fleet carriers with the older fighters. Either that, or he was using that escort carrier to bring in Marine fighter squadrons to the new airfields.

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RE: April 1944 - 2/11/2017 9:03:24 PM   
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Where do you think the origin of their flight was, John? If I could find it, talk about bombardment bait!


Legaspi: It has been notated by Imperial HQ...

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RE: April 1944 - 2/12/2017 12:02:47 AM   
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April 30, 1944

Nearly forgot the truly momentous event of the day. Over the skies of Miri appear a large formation (60 Planes) of new 4EB. Flying at 15,000 Ft the dreaded B-29 Superfortress makes its combat debut. The bombs strike at the oil fields destroying 37 derricks.

My fear was Dan would announce these planes by doing a Port Strike first and then go after economic targets. Thankfully he does not so we're able to pull everything but ships undergoing repairs or refit.

There is a Sentai of Franks and Georges at each of the major Oil Centers (Tarakan, Balikpapan, Miri, and Brunei). They had been resting/training. Now they take to the skies. The next B-29 strike shall be met with serious resistance. We'll see how tough these new planes are...



Unless it is carriers, the oil is more important than ships at this stage. I would have opted for the oil too.

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RE: April 1944 - 2/12/2017 11:29:35 PM   
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The month ends. April is done. Here comes May 1944...

The good thing I can say is at least Mister SAM begins production.




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RE: April 1944 - 2/12/2017 11:46:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great job on Sam. How many r&d factories did you have on them?

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RE: April 1944 - 2/13/2017 3:00:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I started with FIVE (at 32-36 each) in early-42. Don't remember when due to the game being so disjointed over the years of starts and stops. Actually had airframes avialable in April but the engines didn't advance and start NOW.



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RE: April 1944 - 2/13/2017 8:02:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

April 30, 1944

The month ends. April is done. Here comes May 1944...

The good thing I can say is at least Mister SAM begins production.



Question: Have you been using the George N1K4 that is CV capable in your mod? Isn't it as good as the Sam essentially?

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RE: April 1944 - 2/13/2017 4:48:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		The N1K4 was not available until 4-45 so I elected to go with Sam. Will check the differences and see regarding the airframe.


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RE: April 1944 - 2/13/2017 4:52:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Differences:
A7M2 391 MPH, Armor 1, 16 Firepower, MVR 25 to 31K
N1K4 372 MPH, Armor 1, 22 Firepower, MVR 29 to 21K

The Sam appeared to be a better choice.


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May 1944 - 2/13/2017 8:55:10 PM   
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In our first ATA combat with the Superfort, 14 Franks tangle with 4 B-29. The Franks shot down THREE of the big aircraft. A sense of optimism surfaces within the fighter pilots. They will learn better I think...





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RE: May 1944 - 2/13/2017 9:04:16 PM   
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The Kido Butai returns to Saipan without seeing a sub or getting spotted. Now...a short time to gather as production begins on the Sam. Great hope there but there is also strong discussion of using the carriers as LRCAP for a bombardment run by ALL of Japan's heavy ships. Those B-29 at Legaspi are rather enticing. Orders go out to keep a close eye on the Allied Fleet...

Elsewhere...

...all four of the islands between Formosa and Luzon find AKs/LSTs off their coasts as troops disembark to garrison these islands. Roughly 60-90 AV move onto each base with 4-5,000 supply. These potential Allied bases will not fall to any Fast TF. The Allies will have to come up in strength to take them. By that time the Kamikaze shall ring in their ears.

...the beaten Burmese Army continues a slow withdrawal towards Pegu and Rangoon. Sixteen units arrive at Moulmein. These are Engineers and Base Forces. They will move out to strengthen bases to the south.

...Baybay (Central Philippines) is landed upon but the Allies don't take the base on the first effort. Planes arrive in Iliolo to see if a small dent can be made at the invasion TFs here.

...Namlea has several TF landing at it. A counterstroke has already been in the works and includes the first unit designated as Kamikaze. We'll see how the Allies deal with this new weapon.

...a Convoy carrying 425,000 resources and 125,000 fuel/oil slips through the Formosa Strait with no issues. It is to be followed in 4-5 days by a massed tank convoy carrying 245,000 fuel and 120,000 oil.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 1:52:04 PM   
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Make with the pew pew pew!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 7:04:38 PM   
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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 8:29:24 PM   
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Bang Bang BANG!!!

Pew pew PEW!!!

You know? The war thingy?

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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 8:34:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got it! Trying to remember the film I saw where they yelled Pew--Pew--Pew!


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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 8:36:13 PM   
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Got it! Trying to remember the film I saw where they yelled Pew--Pew--Pew!



Just recently saw the LEGO Batman movie with the family. All of us enjoyed it. Many laser blasts are accompanied by a 'pew pew pew' voiceover.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 8:38:20 PM   
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The second major raid by B-29 is a ship repair yard strike (weird choice) against Shanghai. As a result of this attack, all Japanese Fighter units from Hiroshima through all of Kyushu shift from 100% training to 30% CAP--20% Rest--50% Training. If these silver birds come over Southern Japan they will find resistance...




Sorry about the lack of Posts but I only have time to run turns and Post OR work on the Mods. For the last week or so it has been to work on the Mod. Just so you know gang!






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RE: May 1944 - 2/19/2017 8:46:25 PM   
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Very briefly and summarized, the actions off Ramree and northern guinea + the subs attacks were just excellent, but we need more consistency, other wise the clock shall contnue to advance in Us advantage.

But, if you can generate some consistent attrite on the US logistics, even at expense of higher losses (in land units and planes - but not too much higher), we can turn the watch and clock to tic on our advantage, given that even the US is in sharp difficulty in mantaining all of that huge array stretching from Southern DI up to Legaspi.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/21/2017 6:53:06 PM   
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RE: May 1944 - 2/21/2017 9:50:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry guys. Just very busy presently. My Ass't Manager and Training Manager decided to take a week of off work TOGETHER and that has made life...rather...exciting at the store.


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