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RE: May 1944 - 2/23/2017 10:05:49 PM   
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No not exaggerating or no not reading?


Adar,

I'm going to guess-based solely upon your name and your choice of diction-that you may not be native to the United States. In US linguistic vernacular, a "Dear John" letter is a letter one gets (historically, soldiers got this letter while away at the front) from one's sweetheart in which she breaks up with him. There are other equivalents-two posters shared theirs. I believe that one of them is even named John IRL, which makes the receipt of such a letter twice as ironically bitter.

I'm guessing that their responses-in terms of what they experienced in a "Dear John moment" are what they're saying was awful. Their experiences and their reactions have nothing to do with John III or this game or this AAR. Their visceral responses are their personal experiences with breakups and spousal infidelity.

Hope this helps.


The practice at West Point, during that first miserable year, when the plebes get "Dear John" letters was for the upperclassman to read, correct, and annotate the Dear John letter with editorial comments and return it to sender and share the letter with all.



Oh man, that's brutal! And funny as hell!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/23/2017 10:06:07 PM   
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RE: May 1944 - 2/23/2017 10:38:31 PM   
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No not exaggerating or no not reading?


No exaggerating, just lucky that they are now 44 and 50 years in the past. I think I am about over them.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 1:50:13 PM   
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Rangoon falls May 12, 1944. Pegu is soon to follow...


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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:14:19 PM   
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Spending more time looking at this. I've got an ideal activity for your IDs and TK regiments, John. There's some Allied dogs that need liquidating in situ. And you oughta be able to accomplish it. They've been kind enough to put themselves onto islands which means that there's no way out for them.

Observations:

1. WTF is that Allied unit on Leyte doing in the same hex as your forces on Leyte? It makes me nauseous just thinkin' about how non-liquidated those Allied troops are on Leyte. A couple divisions here-on your own base no less-should be able to push back the Leyte forces down the island and capture / kill them all.

2. What is the enemy strength on Samar? While Leyte is nice to recapture-the 'low hanging fruit' here-exterminating the Allied presence on Samar will cement your Eastern flank into the Philippines nicely. Some search a/c and naval bombers will take the starch out of any but the most heavily-escorted Allied reinforcement convoys.

3. The islands immediately to the SW of Manila have only one visible Allied unit icon for 5 bases (stretching SW down to Palawan). Destruction of that Allied unit could lead to recapture of this area on the cheap by 'rowboat corps'. Assuming that it's just that one nidus of Allied filth in the area, this could be done cheaply. What is the strength of the Allied presence there John?

4. Four other islands (Cebu, the island 1 hex SW of Legaspi, the island 1 hex NE of Butuan just off Mindanao and the island NE of Antimonoan just off Luzon) have Allied units detected. If the vast majority of Allied strength is bottled up on Southern Luzon at Naga and Legaspi, what LCU-wise could he have at these locations?

Look at the stacking makeup of these islands to see if they're atolls and would require a nasty shock attack to clear. If not, and they are unlimited stacking, you can unload at your leisure. If-as I suspect-these islands are filled with engineers and / or base forces only, they are a juicy, juicy target for your landing forces to land in force, liquidate the enemy and depart again.

I never hesitate to kill Allied units in detail if the opportunity arises. Here, he's likely scattered small holding forces throughout the Philippine archipelago to build 'small bases' for scouting, etc. He can't possibly garrison all of these bases properly. See what you can defeat in detail. If you can clear these smaller forces, that restricts his supply route into S. Luzon and opens up unescorted supply convoys to heavy interdiction.

ETA: If done in a timely fashion, I can imagine the capture of copious Allied supply from these captured locales as well. Thanks for the beer and ice cream machines, running Allied dogs! BANZAI!!!!



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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:17:39 PM   
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Dear John,


Gawds, worst words ever


My name is not John but I got two of those letters.


HAH! I have been getting 'those letters' for 50 years!



You're still getting them?!?!?

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:18:23 PM   
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My ex just said <in a loud voice> "What are you doing home tonight??!!!" The rest is hazy. Good thing my uncle was the sheriff at the time (true story, too )


Hory ****!


I leave for a seven hour work shift and my AAR blows up with confessions like this. Goodness. It is OK. EVERYONE can confess...




That'll teach ya to go to work

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:20:41 PM   
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Dear John,


Gawds, worst words ever


My name is not John but I got two of those letters.


HAH! I have been getting 'those letters' for 50 years!



You're still getting them?!?!?


You'd think he could take a hint after 50 years!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:25:51 PM   
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Where are the Allied ships? Nothing there?

Where are you Iboats? These tight waters would seem to call for sub dropped mines. Dashing destroyer attacks.




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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:28:11 PM   
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Where are the Allied ships? Nothing there?


I think there's still a mess of 'em in port at Legaspi. That brings up another question about the aerial and naval bombardments of the port that are (over)due.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:30:16 PM   
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Since your readers started spamm...erm...providing extremely valuable insight to your AAR, you are regularly above a certain Georgian's AAR, John. Currently that one is at number 8 on the list.

Is Dan still playing the game? Is he still contributing to his AAR?

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 2:37:57 PM   
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Since your readers started spamm...erm...providing extremely valuable insight to your AAR, you are regularly above a certain Georgian's AAR, John.


And hard work is never appreciated

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 10:28:02 PM   
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Since your readers started spamm...erm...providing extremely valuable insight to your AAR, you are regularly above a certain Georgian's AAR, John.


And hard work is never appreciated


This is VALUABLE discussion coming from hurt and upset members who have been 'Dear John'd.' It is OK people. I feel your pain and you are free to continue sharing your hearts and souls...


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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 10:28:36 PM   
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Since your readers started spamm...erm...providing extremely valuable insight to your AAR, you are regularly above a certain Georgian's AAR, John.


And hard work is never appreciated


...just misunderstood is all.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 10:30:06 PM   
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Where are the Allied ships? Nothing there?

Where are you Iboats? These tight waters would seem to call for sub dropped mines. Dashing destroyer attacks.






We got two turns in this morning. The 2nd turn saw him land at Puerto Princesa with the 6th Aust ID. The entire unit was disabled when it landed. I am not kidding here...


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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 11:16:14 PM   
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Recommend an immediate counterlanding with those 5xIDs and TK units. Wipe them out. An ideal opportunity to liquidate an entire high quality division.

ETA: John, this is the reason you have reserves-to take advantage of errors that your opponent makes. No, CR won't always be able to blow through your defenses and build an impenetrable wall, etc., etc. Sometimes he will drop the ball, screw the pooch, land a dog's breakfast, FUBAR, SNAFU and so forth. Punish him severely when he does.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 11:23:36 PM   
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Where did they come from?

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RE: May 1944 - 2/24/2017 11:33:05 PM   
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Where did they come from?

Australia prolly.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 12:54:42 AM   
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Where did they come from?

Australia prolly.



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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 2:27:21 PM   
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Recommend an immediate counterlanding with those 5xIDs and TK units. Wipe them out. An ideal opportunity to liquidate an entire high quality division.

ETA: John, this is the reason you have reserves-to take advantage of errors that your opponent makes. No, CR won't always be able to blow through your defenses and build an impenetrable wall, etc., etc. Sometimes he will drop the ball, screw the pooch, land a dog's breakfast, FUBAR, SNAFU and so forth. Punish him severely when he does.


Let us examine this proposal a bit. He is landing at Puerto Princesa with at least one Aussie ID. The ENTIRE FLEET is one hex to the south. TF count is about 20-25 separate TFs. Figure carrier aircraft of about 1,200-1,400 planes.

My reserves are at Soerabaja (2 ID and 1 TK Div) they would take a full day to load. I have 17-18 Knot Transports to carry at least 2 ID but they would be fully loaded and require probably two days to unload. If we include 14 Knot Tranports then we can carry just about everyone. TF speed is now 14 Knot. OK. That speed would take four-five days to get to the area. At least the last two of those would be under observation and/or attack.

Covering Forces look OK. I have 3 CV and 4 CVL at Singers. Support ships would include 2 BB, 1 BC, 2 CA, 3 CL, and 15 DD. Those would be spread between providing a minimum escort for the CVs (to provide CAP) and STF to fight the 12-15 STF that Dan has.

LBA would support from northern Borneo. Figure I could bring in 2-300 Fighters and maybe 150 Bombers. This would be vs, his 6-700 Fighters and 4-500 DB/TB.

The entire Allied Fleet vs this force. To get there, at best, is one week. The last two days would be under threat of attack and we haven't even begun to unload the troops.

Chance of success?

Do you see my issues here?

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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 3:19:27 PM   
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I hope you relocate those reserves from the DEI to somewhere meaningful immediately. In fact, I wouldn't call them reserves but almost cut off troops that need rescuing.

It is mid 44 and you aren't in bad shape....but you will be if you let significant ground forces remain behind.

Start trying to attit his carrier planes. Of course my advice is worth what you paid for it.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 3:51:01 PM   
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Thanks Lowpe.

Ran into an old friend this day. May 14, 1944 sees five I-Boats attack the American TFs.

I-46 hits CV Lexington with a single TT.
I-12 shoots at a Brit BB, misses and is sunk.
Two I-Boats attack and get severely damaged and are returning to Singapore.
I-186 hits DD Ammen with a single Torp (probably sinks her) and gets away without damage.

Five more I-Boats enter the fray tomorrow.





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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 3:56:54 PM   
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Recommend an immediate counterlanding with those 5xIDs and TK units. Wipe them out. An ideal opportunity to liquidate an entire high quality division.

ETA: John, this is the reason you have reserves-to take advantage of errors that your opponent makes. No, CR won't always be able to blow through your defenses and build an impenetrable wall, etc., etc. Sometimes he will drop the ball, screw the pooch, land a dog's breakfast, FUBAR, SNAFU and so forth. Punish him severely when he does.


John's points against this idea are solid. Why ever counter land this much force on an island to destroy 1 ID in mid-44???

Dig in, move to defend, not attack. At this point defence in good territory with a few forts is the only thing that'll slow the Allies down.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:02:45 PM   
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I hope you relocate those reserves from the DEI to somewhere meaningful immediately. In fact, I wouldn't call them reserves but almost cut off troops that need rescuing.

It is mid 44 and you aren't in bad shape....but you will be if you let significant ground forces remain behind.

Start trying to attit his carrier planes. Of course my advice is worth what you paid for it.


I have seven Kamikaze units just about ready to go. Plan to use them in a bit trying to coordinate with a massed Air Strike.

Planning:
1. Sam is producing fast-and-furious with a Daitai of carrier fighters changing out every THREE days.

2. The Kido Butai is at Yokohoma undergoing its final R&R and upgrades before the final battle. Re-Gain the services of CV Junyo and BC Kongo. Have three of my new second class DDs about to come in. This will raise my DD total for this portion of the Fleet to 32. Figure three CV TF and 2 STF for final composition.

3. Am strongly thinking of moving the Fleet to Daito Shoto to be in a position to make a run at Naga/Legaspi when he moves his CVs AWAY from there. Need 15 days to complete the upgrades and change-out five more Daitai of ZERO to SAM and will then move. It is a two day run to get near these bases and he doesn't have recon over Daito Shoto so we might have an opportunity to strike and get away. MAYBE--DOUBTFUL but worth a try.

4. Prior to the move we'll fill the AF at Mindanao, Central Phil, and Luzon. EVERYTHING will then be ordered to attack...





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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:05:41 PM   
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At Bangkok, three full strength, large Brigades begin unloading. A 4th is on the way. The defensive line they create will be chosen to maximize their strength. They will NOT be in bases since the almighty 4EB is capable of destroying these units all by itself.

It is profoundly hoped that these four units, in jungle hexes, will be able to slow the Allied advance from Burma while a host of beaten Infantry units rebuild once they get to Bangkok.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:09:14 PM   
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Just wanted you to see what the extended map version of Pacifica Bellum maps looks like. Lovin' it!!




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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:17:23 PM   
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No,no don't think final battle!!!!! You have to last till you get Kaitens!

Have you thought of stuffing your KB with kamikazes? I really stink with Kamikazes, so it is probably a very poor idea.

Great shot at Lexington! I guess you are attiting his carrier force with Iboats!

PS: I figured out why there are not task forces on your pictures. Some days I am pretty slow. Well, most days.



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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:34:46 PM   
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Just wanted you to see what the extended map version of Pacifica Bellum maps looks like. Lovin' it!!





Goodness...that is pretty.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 4:36:10 PM   
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No,no don't think final battle!!!!! You have to last till you get Kaitens!

Have you thought of stuffing your KB with kamikazes? I really stink with Kamikazes, so it is probably a very poor idea.

Great shot at Lexington! I guess you are attiting his carrier force with Iboats!

PS: I figured out why there are not task forces on your pictures. Some days I am pretty slow. Well, most days.




Michael and I had a conversation a few days ago about lessons learned in this disjointed campaign. Think I may start that because I really, REALLY want to start a new game to address things I have learned HERE!


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RE: May 1944 - 2/25/2017 8:19:04 PM   
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Lessons Learned:

1. Act as though you were out of fuel in the Home Islands starting Day ONE. I lacked a clear sense of urgency prior to late-43 in getting fuel and oil to the Home Islands. Did OK but could have done far better.

2. Force the enemy into a Fleet engagement but late-42 or--at latest--early-43. Be concentrated and get thar first.

3. AF clusters are wonderful. Maximize multiple AFs that are close to each other to benefit from Air Fleet, Flotilla, Division bonuses. Examples: the Marianas, Clark--Iba--Manila, Central Burma, etc...

4. Concentrate AA units in groups at strategic locations.

5. Do not get drawn in to an attritional battle at sea until you HAVE TO. Excess losses in DDs carry ramifications until the end of the game.

6. Be more aware of individual plane abilities and use them to their fullest. Fighters is the best example of this.

7. Begin a serious pilot replacement program for the IJN as well. The IJA has the benefit of all those groups in Manchuria. At the expense of some frontline units expand air groups and use the to TRAIN IJN pilots. Once the pool is dry it will take a year to get the pipeline going again.

8. Beginning December 7, 1941 build fortifications EVERYWHERE. Odds are you will use them later in 1943-1945.

9. You cannot defend everywhere. There are dozens of dot bases and small locations where AFs can be built to Sz-7-9 and you cannot defend even 1/3 of them effectively.

10. No matter how strong of attrition you place on your opponent he will come back from losses faster and faster in late-43 and 44. This applies to ships, planes, and LCUs.

11. Though not a real problem to even this late place in the current game, one can always seek to improve ASW techniques.

12. (Reader Added) Build fighters both Japan and Germany learned to late to build fighters. Build them early and use massive sweeps to chew up allied fighters and burn through his pools. He will have to contest or save his air frames early, that will leave your vulnerable bombers a freer hand longer.



This is just a start. I know there are others Michael and I chatted about.

What else would you place there JFBs? Lets try to make this something any of us can use!

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