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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 12:50:11 AM   
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THERE is a hidden gem! PSYCHE WARFARE!! Let us all wage an unrelenting war against Dan by boosting Posts counts, hits, and comments.


SPAMMING FOR THE EMPEROR! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 12:59:35 AM   
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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 1:32:03 AM   
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I think it is a bad idea to even joke about opsec leaks-- especially when there are dual AARs. Nothing could create bad blood faster and ruin a great game imho.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:14:49 AM   
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War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Rule #1:




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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:19:33 AM   
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I think it is a bad idea to even joke about opsec leaks-- especially when there are dual AARs. Nothing could create bad blood faster and ruin a great game imho.

Public information is as public information does. Not my leak. Not my monkeys and not my zoo. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that which is plainly stated elsewhere.

This is the reason why I stopped reading and commenting on dual AARs years ago. Now I only read/comment on one side.

My guess is that the individual with the OPSEC "issues" is new to the forums and doesn't understand the significance of his leak. He should be PM'ed by the affected parties and led to understand the nature of the grievance against him.

If it was a significant (and real) breach, Canoerebel probably should have *not* responded in a mutually accessible thread to the original question, but rather quickly plug that breach by PM instead and asked the original poster to kindly delete his post on the matter discretely.

ETA: I will PM the original party and explain my perspective on this matter.


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:53:47 AM   
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War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition Rule #1:





LOVE that!


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 3:03:18 AM   
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I think it is a bad idea to even joke about opsec leaks-- especially when there are dual AARs. Nothing could create bad blood faster and ruin a great game imho.

Public information is as public information does. Not my leak. Not my monkeys and not my zoo. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that which is plainly stated elsewhere.

This is the reason why I stopped reading and commenting on dual AARs years ago. Now I only read/comment on one side.

My guess is that the individual with the OPSEC "issues" is new to the forums and doesn't understand the significance of his leak. He should be PM'ed by the affected parties and led to understand the nature of the grievance against him.

If it was a significant (and real) breach, Canoerebel probably should have *not* responded in a mutually accessible thread to the original question, but rather quickly plug that breach by PM instead and asked the original poster to kindly delete his post on the matter discretely.

ETA: I will PM the original party and explain my perspective on this matter.



I clicked your link, but it took me to the first page of a very long thread that I am not following. So, I don't know the particulars, but opsec leaks might effect some people really heavily.

I still wouldn't encourage John to mention it although I understand your position.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 3:03:38 AM   
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LOVE that!


+1

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 4:30:02 AM   
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Dan had concerns about OPSEC a long time ago and I REALLY try to avoid anything that appears improper.

Just sent this note to Dan:

Hey Dan.

I am writing this from Chris’s computer because I cannot get down to the basement and mine. This afternoon I fell and badly--once again--twisted my left ankle (just like last July). The Doctor warned me that my left ankle might be much more prone to sprains or worse and looks like she is dead right. Have a Doctor’s appointment in the morning. It is bad enough that I might need a cast. I just used a cane to get over to hit room so I can shoot this note off to you.

Will take a strong pain reliever, try to sleep, and then go in to the Doctor. You’ll hear from me when I get home.

John


I am not happy at all about this. STUPID! Don't even know how I truly hurt my ankle. It didn't hurt to start with but has now swollen up and is agonizing...NOT FUN!


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 5:58:40 AM   
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OUCH!!

First thing that comes to mind is Prez Ford played by Chevy Chase in the original SNL skits.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 1:45:09 PM   
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Allied fanboi banana peels!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:33:28 PM   
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I blame the AFB. It isn't broken (again) but the sucker is several nice bright colors and hurts like HELL! Looks like we're back to a cane and boot for a few days. Big smiles.

Will try to do a turn if possible.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:42:52 PM   
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Just sent this note to Dan:

Morning Sir.

Just got back. The stupid things isn’t broken (just like before) but it is a mess. My left ankle is a lovely shade of many colors and swollen to beat all heck. My 10 year-old this morning said “Dad you can borrow my computer so you don’t have to hurt yourself more going downstairs.” Good kid!

Have an hour until work so I shall probably not get to the turn. My AAR is heckling me for doing this. Many are blaming the accident on an AFB conspiracy. You haven’t been in LaSalle within the last 24 hours----have you? :>
John


Hope that got a laugh!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 2:48:15 PM   
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Sprain can be more painful than a break. Get better, and take care of yourself!

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 4:08:42 PM   
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Thanks Lowpe. My Doctor said the same thing last July when I very nearly broke that ankle. Said it would be weak from that point on. Well...

The dratted Allies proclaim their innocence:

Well, I'm glad it isn't broken. High sprains are seriously painful injuries of themselves, but usually so much less expense to deal with than an actual break.

How in the heck are you gonna work today?

No, I haven't been to LaSalle yet. My promise to come is a long term one. And I promise not to inflict actual physical harm on you when I do show up.

You don't need any help in that regard!


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 4:33:12 PM   
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I was just in LaSalle Saturday, looking at a pickup

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 4:36:00 PM   
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I smell Allied sabotage.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 4:56:59 PM   
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No. That's just John's foot, Grafin.

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 5:41:38 PM   
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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 6:18:28 PM   
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No. That's just John's foot, Grafin.

O.O

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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 8:03:37 PM   
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I was just in LaSalle Saturday, looking at a pickup


We have initiated a trace and are bumping security around the caboose. Steps MUST be taken to protect the Emperor's health...


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RE: May 1944 - 2/28/2017 8:16:14 PM   
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I was just in LaSalle Saturday, looking at a pickup


We have initiated a trace and are bumping security around the caboose. Steps MUST be taken to protect the Emperor's health...



Aye, Gawd save the Emperors caboose

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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 4:20:34 PM   
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That would be the HOLY CABOOSE!


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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 4:24:20 PM   
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Good news.

I managed to limp down into the Man Cave and get a turn done and sent to Dan. Haven't been down here for 2+ days. Rather missed it...

The last of my TK TF just passed Formosa heading for the Home Islands. I have brought in four big Fuel/Oil TF over the last two weeks delivering nearly 650,000 Fuel/Oil. Plan on sending them back to Singers/Soerabaja, loading them, bunching them into several huge TF and them fighting them thru enemy lines. Will detail the thinking on that at a later time. Bottom line is we've brought enough fuel/oil home to carry the economy for a good amount of time.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 4:30:08 PM   
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Great.

If you get the time, can you show us what the Sam looks like in this mod. I know you are banking a lot on the plane, and in symons and stock it is still inferior to the Allied CV fighters.

Also, how is Grace coming along?

And finally, what planes are you using as kamikazes? Have you been training pilots since the beginning of the game for them?

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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 4:54:16 PM   
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Don't have time to answer the major questions you pose so I'll do that when I get home after work.

May 18, 1944--MILESTONE--the last ZERO rolls off the production line in Japan. All the differing variants have been used to this point but now everything, for good or for ill, is staked to the Sam.


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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 5:27:59 PM   
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I'd say it's for the good.

How's the ankle doing?

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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 5:34:03 PM   
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In a few words, and without elaborating right now, I would:

- station the Fleet, after completion of upgrade if it is known when it is expected for and if not too late, in a place like Ulithi (good name), or Guam (safer) with oilers, naval and air support etc. plus the biggest possible number of land based fighters + recon (without knowing how big is the airfield actually from here);

the aim should be not to seek for the "final clash", no no, for heaven's sake, no need;

but rather to attrite US carriers air might, with a stand off confrontation - possibly using some expendible bait in between the two fleets, to attire enemy airplanes over a good cap trap. I'd load only or mostly fighters on the carriers for the occasion;

the closeness of bases like Palau-Peleliu or Yap, if developed, may likely add to additional fighter numbers to be employed.

The model would be the Battle for the Marianas (Philippine Sea), where Adm. Toyoda and Ozawa thought or tried to engage the Us Task force from superior range, exploiting the superior range of their airplanes and the availabilty of the bases array in the area;
only, that here IJN's situation is many times better than that at the time - and therefore I'd avoid employing attack aircrafts attempting to desperatly hit enemy's carriers, thus getting dangerously close, for the time; because I think we have still time and haven't run out of it, Mr Cochrane!!

and, may the occasion arise or be found, I'd "poke"/ raid/harass enemy's supply chain, for example around Ternate, when enemy's main carrier fleet position is known being engaged somewhere else for example around northern eastern Borneo (some cautious forays by mini KB in the area may entice Mr Dan to come there); a sort of mice-cat game;

the risk here is that of a surprise attack by Dan's Carreir fleet on ours while moored - maybe using also a pincher move from East-south east, but with a good recon and caution that may be avoided

about the land campaign, as I've written already before, I'd send the greatest number possible of units in Luzon and start fighting, fighting hard, with greater losses and even big losses for Japan, because:

1- I believe that it easier for Japan to rotate and resupply; Dan doesn't have a Formosa or home Islands at close hand

2- as already written previously, I'd prefer ceirtanly to fight, and fight strong, the allies here rather than in any other location close home or even at home, very simple;

also, I firmly still believe that Dan's dispositive is still precarious logistically, and any substantial and/or prolongued forced consumption of his logistics-supply may have the most desirable consequences, not least to gain TIME for us, urging Dan to slow/stop.

Also, that for sure shall place big pressure on Dan, and he may make more mistakes here or there to be exploited.

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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 5:35:34 PM   
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Edit: time to unleash the Kamikaze and the falling cherry blossoms has not come yet

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RE: May 1944 - 3/1/2017 6:45:21 PM   
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John I did something like this before and it worked… for the Decisive battle – do you have any major capital ships that you can “afford” to lose, as long as you win the CV battle?

I ask because instead of putting “everything in one hex and hoping for the best”… what if you had your CV’s trailing a fleet (by 1 hex) or something juicy enough to suck up the major Allied Strike?
I.e. if you had 2 BB’s, 2 CA’s, and 8DD’s… and they were followed by your Carrier Fleets by a hex… perhaps the allied main strike would target the SCTF instead of the CVTF (Cap set to range 1). Of course, you’d pretty much have to accept that everything in the SCTF fleet is lost – but if that means blunting the Allied CV force while your CV’s remain relatively unscathed… it would be worth it. It would gain you massive amounts of *time* while Dan builds up his CV fleet to another unstoppable force.

Just a thought. not sure of it's validity - you may end up losing the SCTF for nothing in return and then be kicking yourself in the pants.

Have you done any massive night-bombing raids yet? HOw is/was that plan working out?

I did a Downfall Scenario as Allies. I had a “center hex” consisting of my main CV fleet. Then, in the six hexes surrounding the main CV fleet, I had a fleet of ~ 2CV 2CVL. Cap was set to “1” for the Main CV fleet. Cap was set to 2 for the surrounding. I figured that instead of having a strike get through to target a hex full of 50 carriers, I’d sacrifice 2 fleet CV’s and 2 Baby CV’s. It worked pretty well… but then again, so does everything for the Allies at that stage of the war.


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