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RE: July 1944 - 4/28/2017 11:21:40 PM   
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So, John, have you tried the low CAP settings yet? Any results?


I have all of Formosa set to the degree that we have spoken. Other then that one raid that got chewed up, he hasn't tried the defense yet.

Have been busy beefing up my Minefields at Takao and Taihoku to keep him from trying to get frisky with bombardments. Have got two CD units ready to bring in but he needs to move away for me to safely deposit them.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 1:01:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone ever experience that forced disbanding of about 20 air groups on July 10, 1944? It SUCKS!

Why on God's green earth do I have to disband about 1,000+ aircraft?


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 1:06:26 AM   
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Anyone ever experience that forced disbanding of about 20 air groups on July 10, 1944? It SUCKS!

Why on God's green earth do I have to disband about 1,000+ aircraft?



I do hope that you did (or will) "upgrade" them all to crap planes and 'harvest' all the good pilots before disbanding the groups? Also, I assume it's disband rather than 'withdraw' per se?

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 1:23:16 AM   
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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 2:29:14 AM   
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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 2:35:08 AM   
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It was....UGLY!



Same thing happens to Night Fighters but on a much small schedule. Really burns me that you have to remove them, as everyone is needed!

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 5:25:13 AM   
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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 4:24:23 PM   
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Imperial High Command begins rejoicing as Convoy TK-5 makes it out of the danger point and begins the home stretch run to the Home Islands. This is a small miracle.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 5:17:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not much happened last turn so I am going to do an "High From Above" Post.

The Japanese will have the sea lane cut along the Formosa Strait within weeks. The Allies have all but the NE Tip of Luzon and everyone knows the sizes of AFs that can be built on those plains. The occupation of Orchid Isle and Ithabayat Isle signal major trouble for using the strait once they are built up. With this in mind here are the current projects/thoughts:

1. Still have a bunch of troops that I have moved out of the DEI and placed into Indochina. Will work to move them up to northern Indochina for pick-up by convoy to then redeploy into the Okinawa and closer to home arena.

2. Want to try and run the empty TKs from Convoy TK-5 back thru the strait as soon as possible.

3. A final supply convoy carrying 60,000 supply has left the Home Islands and is going to try to unload in Formosa.

Am done with major supply convoys leaving Japan. The Jimas are all quite well off as well as the Marianas. Need to bolster the Okinawa area with some but then should be in pretty good shape.

The soon-to-be arrival of Convoy TK-5 is a HUGE boon for Japan. It cannot be overstated enough that the 150,000+ Fuel and 75,000+ Oil will propel the economy for several strong months.

This leaves the remaining TKs and AOs in the DEI. I have come up with the plan to fight them out thru the southern bottom of Dan's salient with the use of the entire CV Fleet. Just might unload all the DB for Fighters and set the TB on ASW for this potentially epic move. The goal would be to bring home 500,000+ Fuel and Oil in one fell swoop.

Do we expect to lose it all? Heck ya! But it will be fun...


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 6:47:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Not much happened last turn so I am going to do an "High From Above" Post.


Dude....righteous...Far out from Colorado man...Mile high...heh heh....you got any chips?

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 7:01:53 PM   
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Anyone ever experience that forced disbanding of about 20 air groups on July 10, 1944? It SUCKS!

Why on God's green earth do I have to disband about 1,000+ aircraft?



I suspect that in the real world they did not have enough aircraft to fill out all of the units. Just a guess though. The same thing happens to the Allies in mid 44 when the P47 goes out of production and a lot of air groups are withdrawn. But this is due to the invasion of Europe. Not something you have any control over.

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 7:50:57 PM   
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Am ignoring Chickieboy...


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:14:08 PM   
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Convoy TK-5
The celebration within Imperial HQ is cut rudely short when it is found out that American carriers had ventured NE during the night of July 10-11, 1944. Had the enemy realized that he just missed a prize and decided to cross a line in the 'barrier' (NOT!) that hadn't been moved across? Convoy TK-5 moves along at 14 Knots blissfully unaware of the immense peril it is still in.

During the morning distress calls are heard as several Allied small Raiding Groups meet up and sink 4-5 small SC or AKLs. Sun rises. No planes cover TK-5 as it is squarely in the middle of the ocean between Kyushu, China, and Okinawa. Fairly late in the morning yet another Avenger appears over the TF. Action Stations is called yet again. Morning turns to afternoon with no attacks.

In the mid-afternoon excited calls can be heard as two small Japanese convoys are attacked by American carrier aircraft. An AKL and an AK are heard (over the radio) sinking. Avengers report the convoy's location again and again. Thankfully, no strikes come. The convoy has escaped yet again.

Tomorrow nearly every Japanese Fighter on Kyushu will be flying LRCAP over these ships. At the chance of opening up for a B-29 Raid, these Fighters (nearly 400) will cover these eighteen plodding, rusty workhorses that provide Japan with hope for fighting the war...







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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:19:14 PM   
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In a far happier situation (relatively speaking), Ternate is becoming a small graveyard of sunken Allied ships. Three groups have been jumped, attacked, with nearly a dozen ships sunk to date. More are added this day.

As normal, the Allies landed with too few troops and have had to bring in more.

This day finds 3 AP, 3 AK, and escorts unloading. The morning gives way to afternoon when 3 ZEROs sneak under the Allied CAP of about 30 Fighters. Two of the three successfully dive into an AK and AP. NICE! Shortly after this success, a strike of 13 Georges and 32 Judy arrive. Though 10 Judy fall to American Fighters, the remaining 22 dive on their targets. Multiple bombs hit 3 AK and an AP. At least three of the four sink and take troops and vehicles down with them.

Solid effort boys.





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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:19:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Tony-110 enters into production on July 11, 1944.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:26:31 PM   
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Can you put a squadron of Peggy T with high experience pilots on night naval attack? Get some night naval search going too. You need to scare the Allies some...

How good is the DL on the tanker fleet?

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:28:33 PM   
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Holy smokes! Nail biting time!

Can you put a squadron of Peggy T with high experience pilots on night naval attack? Get some night naval search going too. You need to scare the Allies some...

How good is the DL on the tanker fleet?


Good idea of the Peggy and/or Frances.

DL--is TEN bad??!! Convoy TK-5 will move six hexes tomorrow making straight for Nagasaki. The split up convoy right next to the US CVs has an element following directly behind the tankers to 'occupy' any American DDs that might try to catch my wessels.

Scared the living tar out of me!


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:29:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the aircraft production chart now. I will advance the single Tony production line to the -100 tomorrow.





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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:37:31 PM   
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The deathstar can sweep and bomb industry too...I just read about that in another AAR, plus it happened to me frequently.

If you have a sacrificial battleship nearbye, you can sortie that to a base and CAP her. She will draw the lions share of the Alpha strike.

I was never any good at predicting what or where the deathstar would do next, I hope you are better!

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:53:53 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 10:58:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is TWICE in two days that the American CVs have been at a Range of 7 for my Tankers. Can they not strike at that range? I certainly thought that they could be now.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 11:00:33 PM   
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Be careful about protecting the economy, too.

The deathstar can sweep and bomb industry too...I just read about that in another AAR, plus it happened to me frequently.

If you have a sacrificial battleship nearbye, you can sortie that to a base and CAP her. She will draw the lions share of the Alpha strike.

I was never any good at predicting what or where the deathstar would do next, I hope you are better!


You may be on to something, I've got two old-age pensioners from the Russo-Japanese War and a young boy with a rowboat in Kanoya who volunteered to draw off that American Alpha Strike. Do you think THAT will work??!!

Imperial Command has high hopes!


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 11:01:07 PM   
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This is TWICE in two days that the American CVs have been at a Range of 7 for my Tankers. Can they not strike at that range? I certainly thought that they could be now.



In an effort to avoid overexposing his carrier strike aircraft to a CAP trap around Formosa, he may have reduced his range for escorted strike. This is what I would do if I wanted to focus on escorting amphibious TFs and surface combatants in the Luzon strait-at the possible expense of letting a juicy TK/AO TF go out of range.

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 11:13:03 PM   
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This is TWICE in two days that the American CVs have been at a Range of 7 for my Tankers. Can they not strike at that range? I certainly thought that they could be now.



In an effort to avoid overexposing his carrier strike aircraft to a CAP trap around Formosa, he may have reduced his range for escorted strike. This is what I would do if I wanted to focus on escorting amphibious TFs and surface combatants in the Luzon strait-at the possible expense of letting a juicy TK/AO TF go out of range.


Possible. I might do the same. Wouldn't do it at this stage of the war but OK.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 11:46:32 PM   
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Just remember, it isn't really a dogfighter but a bomber killer so it needs Franks, Georges, Jacks and Sams to protect it so that it can get at the bombers. SR1 means it repairs fast, and is pretty flexible at where it can fly from.

It is no slouch, though and down low with a good roll it can do okay even against Jugs especially if they are flying extended ranges.

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RE: July 1944 - 4/29/2017 11:47:16 PM   
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Possible. I might do the same. Wouldn't do it at this stage of the war but OK.



You are not playing yourself!

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RE: July 1944 - 4/30/2017 12:04:54 AM   
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Possible. I might do the same. Wouldn't do it at this stage of the war but OK.



You are not playing yourself!


That explains soooooooooo much!


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RE: July 1944 - 4/30/2017 2:12:45 PM   
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This is TWICE in two days that the American CVs have been at a Range of 7 for my Tankers. Can they not strike at that range? I certainly thought that they could be now.



In an effort to avoid overexposing his carrier strike aircraft to a CAP trap around Formosa, he may have reduced his range for escorted strike. This is what I would do if I wanted to focus on escorting amphibious TFs and surface combatants in the Luzon strait-at the possible expense of letting a juicy TK/AO TF go out of range.


+ 1.

He's scared loosing aircrafts to cap traps.

This means though one thing only, that he's unaware of the importance of those commercial convoys, to be kept in mind.


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RE: July 1944 - 4/30/2017 6:53:40 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 4/30/2017 7:25:27 PM   
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The last turn could be called "The Fall of Superfortresses."


Do tell...

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