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RE: July 1944 - 5/5/2017 10:24:08 PM   
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Traditionally Subway does better when the economy is having issues then when the economy is soaring. Definitely counter-intuitive!
Can't argue with historical numbers. If it is any comfort we are due for a substantial correction. BTW, movies do really well during hard times. During depressions and recessions and wars the theaters were packed. People want escapism. the numbers are the numbers. You been doing this for a bit so you know what you are getting into. you will be fine

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RE: July 1944 - 5/5/2017 10:52:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		When Subway started, their bread was to kill for. Now, many years later it doesn't stand out nearly as much as it once did and the competition is extremely tough.

Best of Luck John, I was a small business owner for 25 years, up to 25 employees. You will have your ups and downs, important to keep you balance, my friend. Take joy in the good, the mundane, and every bad thing is an opportunity somehow.

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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 2:22:38 PM   
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As a Franchisee, I have to travel to Subway HQ in Milford, CONN. The training is 11 days and provides an excellent opportunity to get in a couple of turns a day with Dan. Will be back in my hotel room in the evenings with NOTHING to do...

Found out that we get the Sat--Sun off during the training and I see it as a great chance to cross something off my bucket list. Am going to go to Gettysburg. Cannot wait!

Time for some updating...


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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 2:41:09 PM   
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Philippines
The final bases fall in Luzon by the 19th. There are still troops to occupy the Allies attention for a some time. I've still got boys at Laoag, Bataan, and one of the other bases. May they hold out for some time PLEASE!

Moves and Reinforcements
The Allied Fleet goes back to Legaspi. The retirement of the 1.0^10x6 makes me very nervous but have to roll forward and use the time productively. Results:

1. TK-6 forms up at Singapore and departs on the 17th. This convoy is larger then the last. Two TFs of 12 Escorts and 23 Tankers carry 175,850 Fuel and 86,042 Oil. They travel together but for the stretch run will separate into 14 Knot and 18 Knot Task Forces.

Following some serious thinking, a portion of the Fleet will help to fight this group thru to home. BB Ise, 2 CA, and 6 DDs will provide direct escort. Following that disaster off Miri a while ago where my STF did not engage the enemy allowing my Troop TF to be slaughtered, I will directly embed these ships into the unit.

4 CVs and their escorts will travel with the convoy thru the most perilous part of the journey with Jills and Judy flying ASW. These planes have really proven their value in clobbering the subs.

2. Supply convoys arrive and unload--without issue--all along the Japanese base defense line. Most importantly 60,000 supply arrive at Formosa, more drop off at the base due east of Formosa, and the Okinawa defensive position gets 25,000 supply. No ships are lost.

3. Half of my Troop Convoys have successfully made their destination and unloaded. The 5th ID arrives at the Okinawa area and unloads, two CD units arrive and unload at Formosa (that should make for a rude surprise), and numerous engineering units are dropped off to help with base fortifications. The time allowed has gotten me the opportunity to build Forts to at least 3 at newly occupied bases and major bases are all now 4-6. It is what it is but things look pretty good.

4. More troops are being picked up at in the Marianas and Kuriles for transport.

Cannot say enough that this 7-9 day respite has been effectively used by Japan.

Upgrades
the chance for this breather has allowed me to upgrade four Frank units to -Bs at Formosa and two Tony units to the -100. Need more time but doubt if I shall see it.

Action
I have carefully laid out some CAP Traps and they have done pretty well. Staged a big one over Ternate today that truly stung the units down in this area. Additionally successes have occurred over Port Moresby, Nauru, and Kusaie. I've mainly used the Japanese Carrier Fighter groups to dart in, attack, and depart.

Kido Butai
The Carrier Fleet is about to really go into use. The two TFs at Tulagi are moving towards Milne Bay for a run thru the Horn Isle to join-up with the six CV/CVLs in the DEI. The remaining TF covers TK-6 as detailed.





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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 2:42:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here are the LOVELY results of the CAP Trap from the 19th:





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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 2:43:18 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 4:04:16 PM   
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Here are the LOVELY results of the CAP Trap from the 19th:


A very nice bag, John.

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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 4:08:07 PM   
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He has every right to be cool and assured. Lordy--I wish for those six months back in 1943 when I was so over-taxed trying to run three campaigns at once. Take it down to just him and me and we might be fighting a very different war right now. Oh well, split milk and all that...

Traditionally Subway does better when the economy is having issues then when the economy is soaring. Definitely counter-intuitive!



Well, Subway has low price points. A lot of people turn to more reasonably priced meals when the economy is slow. Had my first subway sandwich last month while at the airport. Not a bad meal at all..


Yup. McDonalds and other perceived 'value' quick service restaurants tend to do better in economic downturns. High-falutin' markets like Whole Foods not so much.

crsutton-how'd you go through most of your adult life without visiting Subway until now? You livin' under some Birkenstock-wearin' rock?


Well Leghornman, up til then it was just alfalfa and been sprouts with a bit o tofu thrown in. But since Ringling Bros. closed up shop and I was thrown out of clown school, times have been a bit hard and I have had to lower my standards a bit.




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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 5:31:19 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 9:17:31 PM   
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Have you sunk a sub with a 500 kg bomb from those Judys'?


In the last week I have heard 'sub sinking sounds' three times. NICE!



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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 9:21:11 PM   
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Found out that we get the Sat--Sun off during the training and I see it as a great chance to cross something off my bucket list. Am going to go to Gettysburg. Cannot wait!
Gettysburg is casualty the correct choice. Much to see and ground to cover but this mist be done. Bit of a drive, but probably not such much by western standards. I was going to suggest http://www.ussnautilus.org/, while excellent, Gettysburg is the one to do.

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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 9:23:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have not had the time to check Milford, CONN to Gettysburg, PA but it cannot be too bad.


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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 9:57:00 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 5/7/2017 11:54:50 PM   
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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 12:03:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		We now have an issue. Dan just sent me this:


John,


At some point, perhaps soon, I'll initiate nighttime strategic bombing.


My hope is that strategic bombing will prove successful, but if it turns out to too successful, we can address it. That is to say, if prudent and reasonable defenses don't work so that nighttime strategic bombing is too powerful and non-historic, we'll figure out how to address it. I doubt that'll be the case, but I don't want a nerfed element to unhinge the game.


We've reached an interesting, taut, tense part of the game. It's a lot of fun. :)


Dan

My response:

I have not produced ANY Night fighters knowing we had excluded that. If you are thinking about it then I need to shift from a one dimensional defense. Barring that slaughter of B-29s over Singers your 4EB have been pretty close to invulnerable…

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 12:10:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		So you have no pools of Irving S or Nick D...no production of frames or engines. No r&d of any other NFs?


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 12:13:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are some squadrons that once you leave the night fighter/scripted upgrade path you can never go back to night fighters...

There are something like 21 eligible squadrons for the entire game. Some get withrdrawn. Some thru funky upgrade paths. Others come as reinforcements. Very byzantine.


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 1:40:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's an Epic misunderstanding of a pretty important HR by someone. Was this spelled out in writing at the inception of the game?

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:42:54 AM   
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That's an Epic misunderstanding of a pretty important HR by someone. Was this spelled out in writing at the inception of the game?


As you guys have read over-and-over in this AAR we had agreed to not do night bombing. I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wanted to attack those ports with 500+ ships disbanded in them but would not/could not thru our discussions.

I have a few of those air groups but the vast majority have been shifted to other aircraft. Do I have airframes and engines? Some. Maybe. Would have to seriously look. Give me a bit and I'll see what is currently going.

To be safe, which specific aircraft should I be looking for? Might be a stupuid question but I have--literally--not needed to think about this for years...


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:43:53 AM   
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So you have no pools of Irving S or Nick D...no production of frames or engines. No r&d of any other NFs?




Didn't see this Lowpe. Am pulling up a turn now to check.

Other planes to look for?


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:51:06 AM   
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Irving-S ZERO in production.
Irving-Sa 24/Month--65 in Pool--Engine Naka Ha-35--ZERO in production but 5,900 in pool.

Nick Ki-45 KAId 24/Month--86 in Pool--Engine Mitsu Ha-31 90/M with only 4 in pool.

Does the Sa qualify as a decent Nightfighter? Am like newby in this area.



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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:54:01 AM   
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So you have no pools of Irving S or Nick D...no production of frames or engines. No r&d of any other NFs?




Didn't see this Lowpe. Am pulling up a turn now to check.

Other planes to look for?



I have two threads one for army and another for navy...here is the Army one..although navy is more important.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3895701&mpage=1&key=army%2Cnight%2Cfighter�

Please, please look at night air actions and don't rule them out. It is a lot of fun and a game within a game.

Also, believe me hitting those ports at night would not have yielded great results for Japan...been there done that.

You have made some Nick D....they are night fighters.

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:54:02 AM   
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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:55:54 AM   
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Production:

Irving-S ZERO in production.
Irving-Sa 24/Month--65 in Pool--Engine Naka Ha-35--ZERO in production but 5,900 in pool.

Nick Ki-45 KAId 24/Month--86 in Pool--Engine Mitsu Ha-31 90/M with only 4 in pool.

Does the Sa qualify as a decent Nightfighter? Am like newby in this area.




Read those two threads...

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 4:14:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Sir. Will do and then I will make some sort of proposal to Dan.


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 10:00:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK. Spent a lot of time thinking about this and sent this portion of a lengthy note to Dan regarding the Night-Bombing topic:

I am sure you have gotten an earful on your side of the Forum as well. How about this as a proposal: It is July 21st--how about we open up Night Bombing--in ALL forms--August 15th? This would give me a month of turns to get any production tweaks and changes I need done, give you a chance to prepare for Night Attacks by your and upon your forces, and allow for this aspect of the game to be jointly explored by both of us.


Seems fair. What do you think?

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 1:12:42 PM   
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OK. Spent a lot of time thinking about this and sent this portion of a lengthy note to Dan regarding the Night-Bombing topic:

I am sure you have gotten an earful on your side of the Forum as well. How about this as a proposal: It is July 21st--how about we open up Night Bombing--in ALL forms--August 15th? This would give me a month of turns to get any production tweaks and changes I need done, give you a chance to prepare for Night Attacks by your and upon your forces, and allow for this aspect of the game to be jointly explored by both of us.


Seems fair. What do you think?


It depends on the initial understanding of the HRs about Night Bombing. If you had something unequivocal in writing that there would be ]NO NIGHT BOMBING (PERIOD) for the duration of the war, then you needn't pressure yourself to respond within 1-2 months, let alone three weeks.

If something was more nebulous about night bombing (e.g., "Maybe we'll consider it later in the war, TBD"), then your three week time frame is more than generous.

I haven't read your entire AAR. Although I have heard you state several times that night bombing was limited by HRs, I haven't seen anything codified in writing to constitute said agreement.

Lastly, is this three weeks based upon anything meaningful or was it drawn out of thin air? For myself, I'd want enough time to transition factories over to your night fighter model(s) of choice, get said factories producing, get a decent pool of night fighters produced and outfit a few groups with sufficient functional planes for this purpose. For any numbers that are sizable, it's hard for me to see this happening within 3 weeks time.

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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 1:29:01 PM   
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Lastly, is this three weeks based upon anything meaningful or was it drawn out of thin air? For myself, I'd want enough time to transition factories over to your night fighter model(s) of choice, get said factories producing, get a decent pool of night fighters produced and outfit a few groups with sufficient functional planes for this purpose. For any numbers that are sizable, it's hard for me to see this happening within 3 weeks time.


I would like to know the answer to that as well.

I also would like to know how many active night fighter squadrons you have up and flying now? I am assuming you have only one production factory allocated to each model...making them very vulnerable if they are located on the western half of Honshu.


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:29:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did a hasty count last night/this morning and saw four-five large groups. Will have to do a thorough count when it isn't 3am. Since I am producing about 60 a month, that number can be brought up. Engines are another story. My Nicks are drawing engines from a solitary plant producing 90 a month.

Picked a month of time out of thin air. Dan had sent what appeared to be a bit of terse note regarding this and I wanted to throw something out that was a compromise.


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RE: July 1944 - 5/8/2017 2:47:53 PM   
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Regarding night bombing, we are talking about two different things.

We mutually agreed to forego night-bombing of airfields and ports due to forum concerns that it might be nerfed. This came about during the Sumatra campaign, when you employed the tactic a few times on a small scale. I approached you and said, "If you do it, I'll do it; if you don't do it, I won't do it." You chose the latter, and I explained that there would come a day when the Allies would draw near enough to Japan to engage in strategic night bombing, but that we'd keep it with the bounds of historical capabilities and wouldn't abuse it, just in case it too was nerfed.

Despite that "understanding," I needed to give you a heads-up that I would be employing it at some point, perhaps soon. Hence my email yesterday.

I've discussed this in my AAR many times over the years, so I think my regular readers were familiar with the agreement. Their input was mostly to discourage me from yielding on this point, except I think for NYGiants.

The prohibition of port and airfield bombing has been mutually beneficial, and will pay off for you more as my bombers draw within range of your biggest ports.

Just to make clear, we have a one-month moratorium (per your email) on strategic bombing at night. I agree. I am not exactly sure when I'll initiate the bombing, but if it seems nerfed - if you have no fair defenses and it seems whacked - then we can address it as things develop.

The moratorium on other kinds of night bombing (ports, airfields) remains in effect. If you prefer to discuss that, I'm glad to. But I'm also glad to continue as is. I don't know if night bombing is nerfed or not, but we've lived without it for a long time, and I'm glad to continue that way.

I wrote back saying that I would like to open everything up as an experiment to gain experience heading into my next campaign. We'll discuss this and see what happens.


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