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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 2:13:56 PM   
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Could I ask you what are your intentions in Southern China (Fowchon area)?
Where is the numerous Japanese heavy artillery?
any other Tank reserves left to move there? Antitank gun regiments?
are you more inclined to stayand contain, or to attack?
Now I'd consider night bombing of his stacks there, starting with airfields..
Do you plan fighter sweeps over Fowchon etc? Do you have redundant airbases and air support around Shangai?

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 4:35:49 PM   
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Although I understand your desire to clear your name, I would suggest waiting until game events make the revelation old news.

Most players have years invested in a game and some of us have observed the enjoyment people have in their games spoiled by unintentional opsec breaches. Even the perception of a breach throws things into doubt and can spoil a game. It's one of the reasons you don't see a lot of AAR's.

. A good rule of thumb is that if you want to talk strategy or speculate on intentions to restrict yourself to reading one AAR. If reading both then it's safer to restrict contributions to game mechanics or trash talk.


Good points. I go one step further by limiting my reading to one AAR and limiting my contributions to largely trash talk and fart jokes. Its my way to help.

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 4:43:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Itdepends

Although I understand your desire to clear your name, I would suggest waiting until game events make the revelation old news.

Most players have years invested in a game and some of us have observed the enjoyment people have in their games spoiled by unintentional opsec breaches. Even the perception of a breach throws things into doubt and can spoil a game. It's one of the reasons you don't see a lot of AAR's.

. A good rule of thumb is that if you want to talk strategy or speculate on intentions to restrict yourself to reading one AAR. If reading both then it's safer to restrict contributions to game mechanics or trash talk.


Good points. I go one step further by limiting my reading to one AAR and limiting my contributions to largely trash talk and fart jokes. Its my way to help.


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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 5:25:54 PM   
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Although I understand your desire to clear your name, I would suggest waiting until game events make the revelation old news.

Most players have years invested in a game and some of us have observed the enjoyment people have in their games spoiled by unintentional opsec breaches. Even the perception of a breach throws things into doubt and can spoil a game. It's one of the reasons you don't see a lot of AAR's.

. A good rule of thumb is that if you want to talk strategy or speculate on intentions to restrict yourself to reading one AAR. If reading both then it's safer to restrict contributions to game mechanics or trash talk.



I think many players avoid writing AARs because the criticism can become very personal, especially when a clamor arises about a move or mistake that the opponent of the person writing the AAR makes. When playing this game for a long time with someone, a bond of friendship tends to develop between the 2 players, and one does not want to see one's friends subject to ridicule. Moreover, the opponent does not have the opportunity to respond or explain himself in an opposing AAR, and oftentimes, even in a comprehensive AAR, the commentators are not familiar with all the subtle strategies and chess-match that has been occuring between the two players with each click. I think it is the personal nature of some (not all) criticisms that wards some players off from writing AARs.

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 9:19:44 PM   
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Could I ask you what are your intentions in Southern China (Fowchon area)?
Where is the numerous Japanese heavy artillery?
any other Tank reserves left to move there? Antitank gun regiments?
are you more inclined to stayand contain, or to attack?
Now I'd consider night bombing of his stacks there, starting with airfields..
Do you plan fighter sweeps over Fowchon etc? Do you have redundant airbases and air support around Shangai?


The Kitchen SINK is moving towards Southern China. By my count there are 12 Infantry Divisions and 2 Tank Divisions coming for the Allies. Contain? HELL NO!

Attack. Repeat Attack.

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 9:46:03 PM   
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best luck and success



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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/8/2017 10:11:46 PM   
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There is Artie moving along as well...

If nothing else it will serve as a distraction for the Allies to keep their eyes off of 'other' things.


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August 1944 - 6/10/2017 3:49:48 PM   
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Dan is trying to cut any form of ocean movement going onto the China Coast or into Formosa. I see it as a great opportunity to pound some Allied SS! Move two excellent Bomber Sentai into Wenchow, CHINA and add another pair into Naha, Okinawa. Did this on August 15th and the HITS are now a coming. Gotta like that.

The Japanese are coming in this direction. Just isn't in the way Dan THINKS...




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RE: August 1944 - 6/10/2017 4:03:15 PM   
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August 18, 1944

One of the LAST things a player in AE might expect to hear in August 1944 is that there has been a resurgence in the Japanese SUB ARM. As detailed many times earlier, I like to shift my packs of SS around looking for good hunting grounds that are not too dangerous. This has worked really well this month as Japanese I-Boats and smaller Ro-Boats have entered into waters near Karachi, the US West Coast, and Diego Garcia. At the cost of only one sub, these are the results for the month:

August 2nd
I-202 CL Biloxi possibly sunk near Siargao with a TT hit followed by a MAG Explosion
I-158 LST-471 SUNK near Kinak Isle

August 4th
I-5 AK Lanyard Knot SUNK by 2 TT near Channel Isles

August 7th
I-1 AP Kohistan hit by 1 TT near San Fran

Aug 8th
I-197 AK Clarence Darrow SUNK near Merauke in two attacks with 3 TTs

Aug 10th
I-5 AK Joe Harris hit by 1 TT near Los Angeles
I-200 AK Fultana hit by 1 TT near Rangoon

Aug 14th
I-26 AVP Orion SUNK by a TT at Karachi

Aug 15th
I-7 AK James Breasted SUNK by 1 TT (Fuel Explosions) near San Clemente

Aug 16th
I-30 AKL Sipora SUNK by 2 TT near Diego Garcia

August 17th
I-26 AK Barpata SUNK by 4 Sh and 2 TT AND AK Barjora SUNK by 3 Sh and 1 TT near Karachi

Mid-way thru the month and things look pretty good. The West Coast hunting has been excellent. Five more long-range I-Boats are currently on their way to bolster that attack.


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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/10/2017 4:05:02 PM   
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Have to apologize for the spotty writing over the last week. Life is pretty busy right now and my priority is to be doing at least a turn/day with Dan. The AAR has lost out several times this week.

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/10/2017 4:25:34 PM   
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Was looking at my engine and aircraft production this turn and saw that the TONY-KAI is now available for production. Had decided to skip this model but then noticed I have nearly 800 of the Tony Engines just sitting around and gathering dust. With that in mind, and not wanting ANYTHING to go to waste, I converted two small Peggy and one small Frances factory over to production of this aircraft. It isn't set for much but we'll produce another 50 good interceptors a month with the change.



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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/10/2017 4:37:50 PM   
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High SR, good speed and cannons...I suspect you need the fighters.

Having them in the backwater area protecting against deep strikes, and then they can move forward if they are needed.

Also would be good CAP trap planes against Hellcats I suspect as long as there is a rail connection.

I have no experience with them, but I do think they have the prettiest lines...a darn pertty fighter. Good luck with them!

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/10/2017 9:48:03 PM   
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They are lovely, however, they are only being built because I have many engines sitting on shelves.


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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 12:12:29 AM   
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Tracker is your friend, John. 😉😉

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 12:49:06 AM   
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Roughly... what is your percentage of "fighter" to "bomber" to "other" production?

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 5:20:01 AM   
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CAP Trap. Over the skies of Batan Isle and the Isle to the south of there, a pair of George Daitai set their ambush up. A force of 27 SBD DB arrive over Batan--no fighters--they are slaughtered. Over the Isle 13 George encounter 12 A-20 flying bomb missions at low altitude. Half are shot down.

Not bad for a quick in-and-out mission.





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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 5:24:24 AM   
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August 18, 1944

Here are the losses and VP Page for the day.

Kido Butai prepares to strike...





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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 5:30:48 AM   
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Roughly... what is your percentage of "fighter" to "bomber" to "other" production?


Good question. I shall run totals in the morning and let you know.


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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 9:33:50 AM   
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August 18, 1944

CAP Trap. Over the skies of Batan Isle and the Isle to the south of there, a pair of George Daitai set their ambush up. A force of 27 SBD DB arrive over Batan--no fighters--they are slaughtered. Over the Isle 13 George encounter 12 A-20 flying bomb missions at low altitude. Half are shot down.

Not bad for a quick in-and-out mission.





Excellent!!
Try to keep the pace ... as much as possible!

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RE: Sydney strategic bombing VPs - 6/11/2017 3:08:33 PM   
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My fighters have gotten a two week break after Formosa got crushed and are pretty much filled out again. This cause for my ambush over Batan as well as several Sweeps about to occur in Southern China.


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August 1944 - 6/11/2017 3:33:20 PM   
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Japanese Aerial Production


We had a very good question earlier asking for my EXACT production of Fighters, Bombers, and Misc... aircraft. Pulled up the last turn and have compiled the Information:

Army
IJA Fighters
Frank-B 542, Ki-100 Tony 191, Ki-KAI Tony 36 and Tojo IIc 28 TOTAL: 797 Planes

IJA Bombers
Peggy 284 and Helen 38 TOTAL: 322 Planes

Recon/Night-Fighters
Dinah 38 and Nick 38 TOTAL: 76 Planes

Transports
Topsy 50

Navy
IJN Fighters
Sam 451, George 240, A6M7 112 TOTAL: 803 Planes

IJN Bombers
Frances 133, G3M4-Q Nell 28, and G4M3a Betty 16 TOTAL: 177

IJN Carrier Bombers
Judy 228 and Jill 141 Total: 369

IJN Recon/Nightfighters
Irving (NF) 48 and Irving (R) 28 TOTAL: 76

IJN Floatplanes
Jake 87, Emily 24, and Rex 16 TOTAL: 127

Transports
Tabby 32


Totals
Fighters 1600
Bombers 868
Recon/NF 152
Float 127
Transports 82


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RE: August 1944 - 6/11/2017 5:25:05 PM   
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August 18, 1944

One of the LAST things a player in AE might expect to hear in August 1944 is that there has been a resurgence in the Japanese SUB ARM. As detailed many times earlier, I like to shift my packs of SS around looking for good hunting grounds that are not too dangerous. This has worked really well this month as Japanese I-Boats and smaller Ro-Boats have entered into waters near Karachi, the US West Coast, and Diego Garcia. At the cost of only one sub, these are the results for the month:

August 2nd
I-202 CL Biloxi possibly sunk near Siargao with a TT hit followed by a MAG Explosion
I-158 LST-471 SUNK near Kinak Isle

August 4th
I-5 AK Lanyard Knot SUNK by 2 TT near Channel Isles

August 7th
I-1 AP Kohistan hit by 1 TT near San Fran

Aug 8th
I-197 AK Clarence Darrow SUNK near Merauke in two attacks with 3 TTs

Aug 10th
I-5 AK Joe Harris hit by 1 TT near Los Angeles
I-200 AK Fultana hit by 1 TT near Rangoon

Aug 14th
I-26 AVP Orion SUNK by a TT at Karachi

Aug 15th
I-7 AK James Breasted SUNK by 1 TT (Fuel Explosions) near San Clemente

Aug 16th
I-30 AKL Sipora SUNK by 2 TT near Diego Garcia

August 17th
I-26 AK Barpata SUNK by 4 Sh and 2 TT AND AK Barjora SUNK by 3 Sh and 1 TT near Karachi

Mid-way thru the month and things look pretty good. The West Coast hunting has been excellent. Five more long-range I-Boats are currently on their way to bolster that attack.



Good job of using the remaining subs. You have to do this to have any success. A lot of players just send them to their deaths by directing sub to the point of contact where invasions are going on. But your chance at this stage of hitting a carrier is a hell of a lot less remote than your chances of getting pounded by a DE or PF if you are near a big action. Likewise as an Allied player, I tend to ignore hunting merchants and concentrate my subs where I know the Japanese warships are bound. Hunting merchants just does not work for the Allies in this game.

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RE: August 1944 - 6/11/2017 6:30:44 PM   
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I have wondered about that Sir. Dan's SS have really been a non-factor. They have been active but scored very seldomly.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 1:40:35 AM   
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Totals
Fighters 1600
Bombers 868
Recon/NF 152
Float 127
Transports 82


A small force when compared to what the Allies had, but you have some quality models. 1600 Fighters/868 Bombers if only they could all fly as one.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 3:36:44 AM   
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Don't I agree to that. Wager it would take something along those lines to seriously threaten his current force.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 12:40:46 PM   
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But your chance at this stage of hitting a carrier is a hell of a lot less remote than your chances of getting pounded by a DE or PF if you are near a big action.


Aye, it's a risk:reward balance proposition. Do you feast on underprotected 'soft targets' worth 5-10 VPs apiece or roll the dice on a carrier mission kill worth a potential 150-350 (CVE/CV) VPs? It's player tendencies and appetite for risk that hold the key here.

While I am always pleased to sink ANY Allied ship with an IJN SS, nothing makes my heart go flutter like seeing the Enterprise line up in front of a 53cm 6TT spread. Sinking Allied CVs has the potential to be a game changer at a stroke. All the well-meaning xAK downings won't affect that.

I guess I don't think there's any wrong answer.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 3:14:13 PM   
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Agreed. Think we can all agree, as JFB, that sinking ANY Allied ship by Japanese SS in 1944 is better then sinking NO Allied ship!

I like hitting the softer areas at this point just because it forces a diversion of assets or allows the hunting to go on pleasantly. Either way works for me.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 3:15:20 PM   
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Kido Butai should go into action August 20th. That happens to be the turn I am presently running...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/12/2017 6:11:22 PM   
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Agreed. Think we can all agree, as JFB, that sinking ANY Allied ship by Japanese SS in 1944 is better then sinking NO Allied ship!

I like hits the softer areas at this point just because it forces a diversion of assets or allows the hunting to go on pleasantly. Either way works for me.


My inclination as well

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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 4:35:56 AM   
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Crappy day today. My internet went out and we got it fixed about 6pm. Ruined all plans/hopes. If I can stay up, I'll get the turn in.


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