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August 1944 - 6/13/2017 3:25:31 PM   
John 3rd


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After all sorts of internet and router issues yesterday we swung into action this morning.

Miri, Borneo
The Kido Butai moves into striking range of Miri.

vs. SS---The four Carrier Task Forces find an absolute swarm of subs nearby. Knowing that the likely target for air strikes would be nimble DDs, 50% of all KB TBs are set for ASW Attacks. That they are successful is an understatement. The seas around KB get pounded by Jills scoring an estimated 12 hits just in their section of the board. At the end of the turn TWO SS sink. NICE!

vs. Allied Fighters---To lower the risk of heavy losses, three Daitai of Fighters arrived at Tarakan the previous day. They sweep the Allied base before KB's strike arrives. SIX Sweeps come in the crush the Allied Fighters. Initially there are 74 Fighters flying CAP but they are smacked down and the in-bound strike only has to fight 9 enemy planes. NICE! My veteran Fighter pilots splash nearly four dozen enemy fighters in exchange for about 20 losses.

vs. DDs---A solitary strike comes in during the morning: 121 Sams, 51 Judy, and 45 Jills. Their target are a set of eight fast-moving, swerving DDs. Two of these DDs are sunk as Halford and Hailey take multiple hits from the Judys. Three others are damaged by solitary smacks. In a truly unfortunate development bad weather closes down the decks for afternoon strikes.

The carriers are ordered back to Singapore after the days strikes. Losses are very lite. Japan loses 8 Sams, 9 Judy, and 4 Jills for the day. The two STF are ordered north. BB Ise and 3 Battlecruisers head for Cam Rahn Bay and operations to the north.

Singapore
A carefully gathered group of Japanese troops begin to load aboard APs and AKs. Two full Infantry Divisions, 2 Inf Brigades, and 3 Tank Reg begin to fill these ships. This is an Invasion Force...

Formosa
The Allies have neglected to shutdown the Pescadores. Onto this intact AF come three Sentai of experienced Frank Fighters. They are ordered to CAP Takao and do so in splendid fashion. a Squadron of 24 P-47 do their morning Sweep to find 88 Japanese Fighters--full of fight--waiting for them. The P-47 are crushed and then the Fighters get free attacks upon several waves of B-24 and B-25 bombers. NICE! Pull the Sentai back at the end of the day...

1.0x10^6
The Allied armada has stationed itself near Boela and its surrounding bases. We are watching it...

China
The game will soon be on here. Japanese troops are finally entering the area in strength. First we want Pucheng back and then we'll advance southwards. Chaochow fell on the 19th. The Allied thrust appears to aimed at Canton and Hong Kong. Good. We're allowing these troops to come west as troops gather to defend these two locations and the IJA begins to thrust towards Foochow and Amoy from the east and north.

Economy
Am critically low on fuel and oil in the Home Islands TK-5's delivery has been used up after two months of time. Have over 600,000 sitting in TK and AO near Java simply waiting for the Allied CVs to get out of the way. The waiting SUCKS!






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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 3:30:12 PM   
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Singapore
A carefully gathered group of Japanese troops begin to load aboard APs and AKs. Two full Infantry Divisions, 2 Inf Brigades, and 3 Tank Reg begin to fill these ships. This is an Invasion Force...


An invasion force? C'mon man...unless you're 'invading' your LOS in order to clear the rail line between Malaya and China, IMO you're off the mark. PLEASE tell me that you're not 'invading' someplace in the southern DEI in order to 'get his attention'. These troops are likely to be 1. Lost en route 2. Unable to capture the target by surprise and 3. Unable to extricate to more advantageous position if engaged far from the 'main show' of Formosa, coastal China/SEA and / or Okinawa and the home islands.

ETA: Nice job on your sweeps, SS ASW and DD 'pickings'.

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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 3:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh. What's up with the uber AO/TK convoy?

ETA: They've been sprung past Mindanao and into the Western Pacific / Philippine Sea by now, right? The oil and fuel in Sumatra that you mentioned is a different matter, isn't it?

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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 3:42:44 PM   
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Singapore
A carefully gathered group of Japanese troops begin to load aboard APs and AKs. Two full Infantry Divisions, 2 Inf Brigades, and 3 Tank Reg begin to fill these ships. This is an Invasion Force...


An invasion force? C'mon man...unless you're 'invading' your LOS in order to clear the rail line between Malaya and China, IMO you're off the mark. PLEASE tell me that you're not 'invading' someplace in the southern DEI in order to 'get his attention'. These troops are likely to be 1. Lost en route 2. Unable to capture the target by surprise and 3. Unable to extricate to more advantageous position if engaged far from the 'main show' of Formosa, coastal China/SEA and / or Okinawa and the home islands.

ETA: Nice job on your sweeps, SS ASW and DD 'pickings'.


It's hard to adjust to having NO offensive opportunities in this stage of the game. But that is the reality. Offense is limited to being able to surprise with the strength and allocation of your defensive weapons.

Andre's points are all 100% correct. I'd add that he KNOWS you'e loading those troops RIGHT NOW. That's how good Allied SIGINT is in this game. Greyjoy played with that a lot against me in the middle game by loading and unloading fragments all over the place to create "noise." A really good tactic. But it's even past that point.

Anything loading onto transports better have a short journey ahead and better be heading HOME, not forward!




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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 8:51:53 PM   
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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 8:55:16 PM   
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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 8:57:32 PM   
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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 9:00:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

August 20, 1944

After all sorts of internet and router issues yesterday we swung into action this morning.

Miri, Borneo
The Kido Butai moves into striking range of Miri.

Etc., etc...




Sir, you're THE n.1.

Effective air and naval Guerrilla. In the case of the air action you made, this is MORE than GUERRILLA.

P.S.: how many B 24 and B 25 were lost, please? Just to know...

Economy point: shouldn't it be proper to substantially reinforce Saigon, Cam Rahn and the adjacent garrisons, before it to be too late???





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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 9:30:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Normally, I would concur with Chickenboy and Obvert....but, quite frankly, perhaps John knows best.

Perhaps, fuel, oil and supplies are so dire that moving back home is a bad idea.




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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 10:28:52 PM   
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Oh. What's up with the uber AO/TK convoy?

ETA: They've been sprung past Mindanao and into the Western Pacific / Philippine Sea by now, right? The oil and fuel in Sumatra that you mentioned is a different matter, isn't it?


The TK/AOs are sitting at Ketapang waiting for the Allied 1.0x10^6 to move north. As soon as those warships move, the three Tanker TFs move out under KB protection.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 10:30:37 PM   
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Good point Obvert about the sigint and Greyjoy's tactic and ruse. wow.

chickenBoy:don't share your pessimism




I have been practicing that very tactic quite a bit over the last 10-12 turns to try and confuse him...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 10:32:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

August 20, 1944

After all sorts of internet and router issues yesterday we swung into action this morning.

Miri, Borneo
The Kido Butai moves into striking range of Miri.

Etc., etc...




Sir, you're THE n.1.

Effective air and naval Guerrilla. In the case of the air action you made, this is MORE than GUERRILLA.

P.S.: how many B 24 and B 25 were lost, please? Just to know...

Economy point: shouldn't it be proper to substantially reinforce Saigon, Cam Rahn and the adjacent garrisons, before it to be too late???






Dead RIGHT Sir...

He doesn't have ENOUGH here if a sufficiently strong force was to be gathered and...shall I say landed...where he doesn't expect it...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/13/2017 10:36:37 PM   
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Normally, I would concur with Chickenboy and Obvert....but, quite frankly, perhaps John knows best.

Perhaps, fuel, oil and supplies are so dire that moving back home is a bad idea.






Supply is OK but not great.

That would change FAST if I can fight those TKs back home. This is what I truly hope to do. By staging that little operation off Miri, I remind Dan of the KB as well as make him look on the north side of Borneo while I really want him to miss everything on the south side of Borneo.

If there is some time, China is going to get highly interesting. He has landed there and moved down the coast going west. It would have been better for him to move east and get closer to the Home Islands. That isn't going to happen now. We fight a delaying action east of Canton/Hong Kong to slow his moves west but also to draw him further and further out along those roads. He's pushing way west and I am coming down from the North.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/14/2017 12:38:05 AM   
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RE: August 1944 - 6/14/2017 8:31:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		a) Does refineries produce supply in this game?
No, I just wonder how are you maintaining the western part of your possessions

b) what steps have you undertook to ensure the sweep would effect before the naval strike, if possible to be made know please?

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RE: August 1944 - 6/14/2017 8:34:24 AM   
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Oh. What's up with the uber AO/TK convoy?

ETA: They've been sprung past Mindanao and into the Western Pacific / Philippine Sea by now, right? The oil and fuel in Sumatra that you mentioned is a different matter, isn't it?


The TK/AOs are sitting at Ketapang waiting for the Allied 1.0x10^6 to move north. As soon as those warships move, the three Tanker TFs move out under KB protection.


What measures are you planning to mask the composition (i.e., the tankers) and nature of you soon-to-sail, hopefully, composite fleet?

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RE: August 1944 - 6/15/2017 12:24:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am moving all sorts of ships around using them to 'clutter' up the sealanes.

When Dan moves north with the Allied Fleet, I want to be ready to shoot them thru in a short 3-4 day time span. Prior to that I shall unload my TB Daitai and replace them with Fighters. I want the KB to sail with nearly 1,000 Fighters...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/15/2017 12:25:48 AM   
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a) Does refineries produce supply in this game?
No, I just wonder how are you maintaining the western part of your possessions

b) what steps have you undertook to ensure the sweep would effect before the naval strike, if possible to be made know please?


Boy--I wish they did! Am moving supplies into the Malaya and Saigon area for the counterstrike. There is little available after that...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/17/2017 5:12:40 AM   
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I warned Dan this morning and had to work all day at the stores. Not fun but not bad either.


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RE: August 1944 - 6/17/2017 9:41:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		We're at August 23rd and moving slowly forward. Have been way too busy with life to do an update but should be able to get something done tonight or tomorrow.

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RE: August 1944 - 6/17/2017 10:35:48 PM   
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RE: August 1944 - 6/19/2017 2:57:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		RL is going pretty decently. We've had to delay the store takeover until early-August due to Corporate missing the deadline for me to go to Milford. That class starts tomorrow and I cannot attend due to BUREAUCRACY!

July is a no-go due to both of my stores having their busiest days of the year (town celebrations) at the time of that course. This then means July 24-August 4th.

The stores transfer the following Tuesday.

Guess it is good. Allows time to get better prepared with the new company and having staff hired and better trained.



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RE: August 1944 - 6/19/2017 3:05:51 AM   
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China and Indochina

Here is the China/Indochina Theatre.

Dan continues to drive across the south China coast. He doesn't know--I think--that he is heading directly towards 6 Inf Div and 2 TK Div. This might be pretty interesting to watch. There will be no fighting in the bases so I can negate his 4EB.

The eastern and northern side of the Allied lodgement is secure. A grouping of 4 IDs and 8 Art Regiments is going to make itself 'felt' within about 7 days over there.

Two strong Task Forces have arrived at Hong Kong. TF-1 3 CA, 1 CL, and 6 DD will lead the Big Boys 3 BC, 2 CL, and 6 DDs. They will hit their target and then go on to Shanghai, reload, and do it again. Each TF has 4 Daitai/Sentai of Fighters assigned as CAP over them. Four DDs are coming in from the east at the same time to try and soften up the ships based at the target.



The enemy Shock Attacks Haiphong this turn and takes a 1-2 result with A BUNCH of casualties inflicted on it. One Brit Brigade collapsed in the assault. TOOOOOOOO Bad...





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RE: August 1944 - 6/19/2017 4:07:45 AM   
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Java/Malaya

After my Kido Butai strike on Miri, four CVs temporarily disbanded at Singapore and did some repair work. The 3 CV and 1 CVL had SYS damage over 10 so they stayed in for one week to bring the numbers down nicely. Tomorrow will see two CTF depart Singers heading for SW Celebes.

They will join the other two CTF departing Soerabaja today. The Combined Kido Butai will be ready to move out in three days. I am waiting final confirmation of the enemy CV strength leaving these waters and then we shall run Convoy TK-6 thru the gauntlet.

The Tankers and Oilers are all moving to Bandjermasin in SE Borneo. I've added more fully laden TK/AOs raising the total in fuel and oil to over 700,000. If we can get them home, it will be an immeasurable boon to Japan!





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RE: August 1944 - 6/19/2017 11:03:29 PM   
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I KNEW we would get action and we certainly did. Until the end of the turn it was a pretty good day for the Nipponese.

Naval Action
The two STF make their way towards Foochow.

CA TF: The lead TF containing CA's Tone and Chikuma run into 8 American DDs. Chikuma opens the fight landing two 8" shell hits in her first salvo. After the round, these was a bunch of shooting with very few hits scored by either side. A Japanese DD takes three hits and separates from the formation. No serious damage is scored on the Japanese formation other then that. Two American DDs are seriously damaged/sinking with two more moderately hit.

During the day, a small formation of about a dozen SBD try to bomb this TF but they are crushed by Japanese CAP.

BC TF: This force moves towards its goal and is not touched the the entire day. NICE!

The small STF of 4 DD sent from Shanghai absolutely crushes the sub USS Escolar with 26 hits. She, quite pleasantly, sinks. These 4 DD will join the CAs as they make their run into Foochow.


The end of the day is marred by the USS Redfin planting two TTs into the venerable IJN Nagara. Very sad. Nagara is a float and will immediately disband at Pescadores and probably be sunk in port.


While cursing the submarine Gods, I get the hear the pleasant sounds of another Allied sub sinking at the end of the turn. Sort of helps calm my sorrow hearing that LOVELY sub sinking sound effect...



Ground
Saigon--As detailed earlier, the enemy has reached southern Indochina and is knocking at the door of Saigon. The Allies has YESTERDAY to take the base because on this day, a convoy arrives carrying 20,000 supply, a Brigade, and Naval Guard to bolster the defense. Additional Fighters provide CAP and a Spitfire, Seafire, and Wildcat Squadron are each badly mauled by about 50 Japanese planes. A small strike of B-24s see 4 of 6 shot down before they ever drop their bombs.

Haiphong--The Allies are here as well. After their failed shock attack yesterday I doubt if they have the ability to attack and drop the Forts.

Hanoi--A single unit arrives here. Pending on the unit, this location should be able to hold as well.


There is a bit of strategy taking place here. Am really hoping that the forces in place can hold just a bit longer because I have a rude surprise sailing in this direction...



I REALLY hope all the action north along China's Coast serves to draw the Allies north. I need them to leave so I can get TH-6 started and through. Those who are Kamikaze fans might be interested in the next couple of turns. Figure Dan will pull his aircraft out of Foochow with the bombardment coming in. If so, six Kamikaze units are allowed to do their thing!





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RE: August 1944 - 6/20/2017 12:28:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are you trying to hit with your Kamikazes?

Is the battlecruiser force detected?

Nicely done so far.

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RE: August 1944 - 6/20/2017 1:09:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO observed right now, it isn't even funny!

No real 'nicely done' (appreciate it though) because I am swimming through a sea of subs. Though I have hit 4-6 each day and now sunk 3, I am sure one or more of my BIG BOYS will get Torped. Just about that simple...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/20/2017 1:40:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems to me that once spotted a surface bombardment fleet often fails .... it hangs up and doesn't go in for example. That curse has happened to me so often...especially going into a base with lots of planes present. In my last game I lost many ships because of that.

Good luck and triple check those settings and fuel levels.

Any big ground units coming in as reinforcements soon?

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RE: August 1944 - 6/20/2017 3:05:01 AM   
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I fully expect the AI to screw this Bombardment Run in the WORST possible manner. I've lost 3 BB and 4 CA to screwed-up bombardment runs...


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RE: August 1944 - 6/20/2017 2:36:47 PM   
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It is just a name: RIGHT?
It is just one person: RIGHT?
What can one name and/or person mean to cause?

What did the Union boys in blue think when they heard the name 'Stonewall' Jackson?

What do the Allies think when they hear the name Tanaka Raizo?

Tell you what. IRL the Americans thought enough of this man to name a fantastic class of Fleet Destroyer after him.

This day he sets his sights on stopping the Japanese bombardment of Foochow, CHINA.

He--GLORIOUSLY--FAILS!


Banzai! BANzai!! BANZAI!!!


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