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RE: October 1944 - 8/11/2017 8:50:31 AM   
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You are making my case that the US was very isolationist in Congress and in the populace in general. After the Greer incident 4 September, 1941 FDR issues the shoot first policy and after that in October 2 US Destroyers were attacked, the Kearny damaged and Rueben James sunk. Yet the Congress did not consider declaring war on Germany nor did FDR publically ask for them to do so. The scenario I suggested is buttressed by the very action or better put lack of actions of the US Congress in light of these attack even after the "shoot on sight order." So that if Japan avoided attacking any US territory or units the US would not declare war on it based on the prior lack of actions taken against Germany even in the face of attack against or escorting vessels. So you can negotiate at what level 500 points of damage or less and reduced every month by 100 points before enough becomes enough and the US finally declares war of Japan once that point threshold is crossed. Remember Germany declared war of the US and we just said thank you for helping us avoid the political hot potato, even after Japan had attacked us and we had declared war on Japan.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 1:57:52 AM   
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Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on

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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 2:55:43 AM   
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GREATLY appreciate the thoughts and good to see you comment on the Thread.

I dwell on your topics a lot. A LOT!





Long-*ssed day here. Day started with going to bed at 1am and a phone call/crisis at one of the stores at 6am. Short night of useless sleep. Been on the run ever since. If anyone is local, you will know that LaSalle/Evans/Greeley got nailed by a microburst yesterday afternoon. We got 2" of rain in 15 minutes, about 3" of Hail (pea-sized) at the same time, and add in 80 MPH wind. It was...GREAT! Not...

Had a next door neighbors tree come down within feet of the house. Got very lucky there. Our town park is acrost the street from us and it looked like a bomb went off. When I got home from the stores at 4pm, I went right into damage control.

To add to the general level of zaniness, we have an intimate gathering of 30 tomorrow afternoon. WE're hosting the Colorado Model RR Museum volunteer staff for a summer thank you and party. They are a great group of people. If you have not been, you should look up Colorado Model Railroad Museum--Greeley, CO. FANTASTIC experience.

Anyway...that is the last 24 hours and next 12-14...


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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 2:20:09 PM   
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October 29, 1944

The enemy knocks at the door of Shaoshing and gets a 1-8 result for the effort. Forts still drop by 1 but the line holds. Three more IDs are approaching with the first one getting to the hex in 2 days. SHOULD hold.





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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 2:23:07 PM   
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After much internal debate, I decide to advance the A7M3 line to bring in A7M3-J. Five factories (Total 110 Research) move forward. The airframe is due February 1945 and I figure we can move it to December 1944. I really LIKE the six cannon it carries! This change will drop my Sam production from 595/month down to 485. With a pool of nearly 700 presently, I think this is a fairly safe decision...


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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 2:25:35 PM   
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The four old sisters pass Balikpapan as they head for Babeldoap and then home. The Kongo-Class Battlecruisers have been the pride of the Japanese Fleet for the war. They shall be sent into Harm's Way. Escorting them are 8 DDs with some guy named Tanaka in charge...


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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 3:06:44 PM   
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After much internal debate, I decide to advance the A7M3 line to bring in A7M3-J. Five factories (Total 110 Research) move forward. The airframe is due February 1945 and I figure we can move it to December 1944. I really LIKE the six cannon it carries! This change will drop my Sam production from 595/month down to 485. With a pool of nearly 700 presently, I think this is a fairly safe decision...


6 canons sounds like a bomber killer. The Allies are bombing the Home Islands now so this will be a nice plane to have. Good CAP for your open terrain troops stacks to as it looks like this China dustup may go on a bit

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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 6:17:01 PM   
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Hey John,

I just want to say again—from a scrub and an Allied scrub at that—that I very much enjoy this AAR. I check in every few days, always great fun. You have a gift for describing situations and operations that evokes vivid scenes and constant tension.

Thanks for your efforts,

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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 6:32:24 PM   
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Thank You Captain.

This match started over five years ago and has had TWO stops placed on it. Never say NEVER. Here we are about to enter 1945.

CRAZY!


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RE: October 1944 - 8/12/2017 7:39:14 PM   
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After much internal debate, I decide to advance the A7M3 line to bring in A7M3-J. Five factories (Total 110 Research) move forward. The airframe is due February 1945 and I figure we can move it to December 1944. I really LIKE the six cannon it carries! This change will drop my Sam production from 595/month down to 485. With a pool of nearly 700 presently, I think this is a fairly safe decision...


6 canons sounds like a bomber killer. The Allies are bombing the Home Islands now so this will be a nice plane to have. Good CAP for your open terrain troops stacks to as it looks like this China dustup may go on a bit


I think is has 4x20mm and 2x30mm. SHOULD do some serious DAMAGE.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 2:31:58 PM   
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October 30, 1944

I am going to create a ballad on the virtue of the 4EB in Ground Attack Mode.

NINE Raids of B-24s come in at Chaochow and all target the 70th ID. Results: 900+ Cas, 600+ Cas, 500+ Cas, and SIX at 200+ Cas...

The ID goes from about 90% strength to 10% in ONE turn. Ohhhh...and we lost the hex...for some reason...




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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 2:35:28 PM   
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In a truly stunning development, Shaoshing falls. Three Japanese IDs are crushed by a 3-1 assault by 4+ American Infantry and Cavalry Divisions.

The casualties are--Japan 10,683 111 G 45 V for 2,211 Cas 49 G 98 V.

NASTY!

I had the hex just 800 short of its capacity. Cannot understand how Dan shoehorned in four IDs. That was a massive assault that is a game changer in China.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:04:14 PM   
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No CAP?
It appears based on your troops committed; that you thought the base worth fighting for; based on prior attacks, you had to know that he was going to bomb. Why no Cap and if you are not going to CAP, why send in the extra divisions?

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:06:05 PM   
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CAP present--swept away...

Maybe I'll make it an Ode.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:13:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

In a truly stunning development, Shaoshing falls. Three Japanese IDs are crushed by a 3-1 assault by 4+ American Infantry and Cavalry Divisions.

The casualties are--Japan 10,683 111 G 45 V for 2,211 Cas 49 G 98 V.

NASTY!

I had the hex just 800 short of its capacity. Cannot understand how Dan shoehorned in four IDs. That was a massive assault that is a game changer in China.



You can always overstack and do one attack big attack.

Allied troops are so superior to Japan, but it is the devices that is super important for Japan. You have junk Divisions, less than junk Divisions, and very few heavy divisions that can fight the Allies with. You must pair them up really well and use your tanks and artillery effectively.

Check your daily production report and see how many Type 3 medium tanks you have made, plz. They are the most important ground device you have (that an IJA 43 squads).

Since you neglected your TOE upgrades, I suspect you are not paying attention to the devices in your Divisions and simply looking at raw AV which is very, very misleading.

Did you have any 15cm and greater artillery present? Type 3 Medium Tanks? They are the only things that can dent the Allied tanks.

BTW, you should have 3 20 cm rocket units...which are great against the infantry heavy Chinese. That is really off topic...but they are such neat units.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:15:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

After much internal debate, I decide to advance the A7M3 line to bring in A7M3-J. Five factories (Total 110 Research) move forward. The airframe is due February 1945 and I figure we can move it to December 1944. I really LIKE the six cannon it carries! This change will drop my Sam production from 595/month down to 485. With a pool of nearly 700 presently, I think this is a fairly safe decision...



I hope the factories are all on the eastern side of Honshu. Good luck.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:17:59 PM   
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Has anyone noticed if having radar or sound detection in a hex lessens the bombing impact on the ground units?

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:25:14 PM   
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Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:26:42 PM   
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Has anyone noticed if having radar or sound detection in a hex lessens the bombing impact on the ground units?


I think it does, but I am not sure why or how, perhaps a slight bonus to fortifications, etc.

Also having damage soaks really helps too.






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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:34:40 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

In a truly stunning development, Shaoshing falls. Three Japanese IDs are crushed by a 3-1 assault by 4+ American Infantry and Cavalry Divisions.

The casualties are--Japan 10,683 111 G 45 V for 2,211 Cas 49 G 98 V.

NASTY!

I had the hex just 800 short of its capacity. Cannot understand how Dan shoehorned in four IDs. That was a massive assault that is a game changer in China.



You can always overstack and do one attack big attack.

Allied troops are so superior to Japan, but it is the devices that is super important for Japan. You have junk Divisions, less than junk Divisions, and very few heavy divisions that can fight the Allies with. You must pair them up really well and use your tanks and artillery effectively.

Check your daily production report and see how many Type 3 medium tanks you have made, plz. They are the most important ground device you have (that an IJA 43 squads).

Since you neglected your TOE upgrades, I suspect you are not paying attention to the devices in your Divisions and simply looking at raw AV which is very, very misleading.

Did you have any 15cm and greater artillery present? Type 3 Medium Tanks? They are the only things that can dent the Allied tanks.

BTW, you should have 3 20 cm rocket units...which are great against the infantry heavy Chinese. That is really off topic...but they are such neat units.



If next to a base full of supply you can over stack and remain in supply under most conditions. The supply will flow. Depends on the roads but I frequently can operate 10-30 percent over capacity as long as there is a big mound of supply in the rear. I am also doing it in jungle terrain where I can just feed supply in via LST. Over stacking is viable and sometimes an important strategy. But of course for the Allies the extra supply burn generally does not matter, whereas it is always a consideration for Japan. This is a good design aspect in itself.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 3:47:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crsutton


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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.


In a sense, the game engine is rewarding Japan with a quicker VP loss by keeping the KB in the SRA instead of slowing down, counter punching China, Formosa, Ningpo invasions.

The Allies literally can invade anywhere closer to Honshu (like Ningpo recently) without fear of KB intervention. Yes, Japan still has her Queen left, but she is in the corner blocked in by a rook, and pawn -- almost toothless.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 6:39:11 PM   
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In a truly stunning development, Shaoshing falls. Three Japanese IDs are crushed by a 3-1 assault by 4+ American Infantry and Cavalry Divisions.

The casualties are--Japan 10,683 111 G 45 V for 2,211 Cas 49 G 98 V.

NASTY!

I had the hex just 800 short of its capacity. Cannot understand how Dan shoehorned in four IDs. That was a massive assault that is a game changer in China.



You can always overstack and do one attack big attack.

Allied troops are so superior to Japan, but it is the devices that is super important for Japan. You have junk Divisions, less than junk Divisions, and very few heavy divisions that can fight the Allies with. You must pair them up really well and use your tanks and artillery effectively.

Check your daily production report and see how many Type 3 medium tanks you have made, plz. They are the most important ground device you have (that an IJA 43 squads).

Since you neglected your TOE upgrades, I suspect you are not paying attention to the devices in your Divisions and simply looking at raw AV which is very, very misleading.

Did you have any 15cm and greater artillery present? Type 3 Medium Tanks? They are the only things that can dent the Allied tanks.

BTW, you should have 3 20 cm rocket units...which are great against the infantry heavy Chinese. That is really off topic...but they are such neat units.



Had 4 good-sized artie units present. Will explore the other questions and Post answer when I get the chance to check.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 6:41:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.


LIKE all that! Perhaps the biggest reason I chose not to engage the enemy in a Fleet Engagement is that it serves no purpose. With where he is presently I can do everything from shore bases. If all those CVs were destroyed, the Allies would gain 10-15,000 VP in one fell swoop.


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 6:42:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.


In a sense, the game engine is rewarding Japan with a quicker VP loss by keeping the KB in the SRA instead of slowing down, counter punching China, Formosa, Ningpo invasions.

The Allies literally can invade anywhere closer to Honshu (like Ningpo recently) without fear of KB intervention. Yes, Japan still has her Queen left, but she is in the corner blocked in by a rook, and pawn -- almost toothless.



I would say that my Queen is blocked by his Queen, two Rooks, and a Bishop. No truly feasible way to threaten and/or endanger much of anything...


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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 7:34:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.


In a sense, the game engine is rewarding Japan with a quicker VP loss by keeping the KB in the SRA instead of slowing down, counter punching China, Formosa, Ningpo invasions.

The Allies literally can invade anywhere closer to Honshu (like Ningpo recently) without fear of KB intervention. Yes, Japan still has her Queen left, but she is in the corner blocked in by a rook, and pawn -- almost toothless.



I would say that my Queen is blocked by his Queen, two Rooks, and a Bishop. No truly feaible way to threaten and/or endanger much of anything...



I would say that is not true...read Jocke v Obvert to see Japan's carrier tactics evolve over the whole game. He had them still fighting in June of 45 in a scenario one game.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/13/2017 7:36:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd


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ORIGINAL: 1275psi

Hi john
I don't comment often, just enjoying following your game

Heres my comment for this game, maybe for your next one.
All that effort getting oil and fuel to the HI?
All that is about to go down the gurgler as you won't soon have any factories to use
it in, he's going to flatten every single one.

As a Jap player who has gone deep into 45, my opinion is this.
Any warship left floating in 45 has been wasted.
I would have Used KB as massive CAP cover for the battle wagons, sacrificed them,
and smashed last invasion.
You might have one chance left

Just my 2 cents
Pleased you are fighting on


Agree with this. It would be great if the game rewarded the Japanese player for this sort of tactic by reducing the VP costs for warships lost in the last years. By 50% in 44 and 90% in 45, or something like that. Air losses for kamikaze attacks should not count for VP totals either.


LIKE all that! Perhaps the biggest reason I chose not to engage the enemy in a Fleet Engagement is that it serves no purpose. With where he is presently I can do everything from shore bases. If all those CVs were destroyed, the Allies would gain 10-15,000 VP in one fell swoop.



You gain time for one thing...as the Allied planning has to be so much more meticulous. Plus there are so many tactics you can use...other than who has the biggest hammer.



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RE: October 1944 - 8/14/2017 8:59:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

October 30, 1944

I am going to create a ballad on the virtue of the 4EB in Ground Attack Mode.

NINE Raids of B-24s come in at Chaochow and all target the 70th ID. Results: 900+ Cas, 600+ Cas, 500+ Cas, and SIX at 200+ Cas...

The ID goes from about 90% strength to 10% in ONE turn. Ohhhh...and we lost the hex...for some reason...






I think that 10000 feet is a too high altitude to achieve a precise land bombing IRL terms (BTW what was the weather there? not clear from screenshot).

I'd prsonally promote a house rule which forbids any ground bombing above 6-7000 feet until, in good hour, land combat model shall be furtherly developed here in this game.

On the other side and against you, where were your AA guns? 10000 is not that high, 4 ENG are so vulnerable, but no losses in your report, this means you had no AA there, this is bad point and score against you... And where your fighters?!?

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RE: October 1944 - 8/14/2017 12:45:19 PM   
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That is exactly what to expect in clear terrain from carpet bombing. If he had come in lower it could have been worse.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/14/2017 12:47:37 PM   
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Those casualties are not a death total either. Unfortunately for John its over 100mi to cover.

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RE: October 1944 - 8/14/2017 1:59:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zuluhour

Those casualties are not a death total either. Unfortunately for John its over 100mi to cover.


But thanks to HR no 4E ground bombing in non base hexes.

Just wait until the B24 are unleashed on Honshu...B29s are bad, but there are somewhat limited numbers. Not so for the B24 if CR has stockpiled them up. After about 10 waves your night fighters run out of sorties, and the bombers come in with no night fighter opposition and AA starts to fatigue.

John will look back and wish those 4E were bombing his troops somewhere.

I used to purposefully expose troops in open terrain to attract 4E bombers away from industry.



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