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RE: November 1944 - 8/22/2017 9:40:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well...we'll know when the end is the end. If he sees the VP gold rush in China/Manchuria then whatever.

I just see China as a sideshow that is a waste of Allied lives when the Home Isles were ripe for picking earlier.

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RE: November 1944 - 8/23/2017 3:17:58 PM   
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China

The Chinese are now attacking all up and down the lines. Lots of movement with stacks of the enemy showing up everywhere. Many attacks are thrown back with severe losses to the enemy but some are successful.

Here is an attack on Changteh that dropped Forts to 5 and yielded a 3-1 result:





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RE: November 1944 - 8/23/2017 3:27:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a great place for all your little artillery units. 75 mm guns, 80mm mortars, etc. Those units really can get chewed up by the Allies, but against the Chinese they are huge force multipliers for you.

It is also where you should have your three units of rocket artillery.

Try to defend the important road junctions to buy time.

Firebomb Chungking and any other Chinese industry if you can afford the supply cost.

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RE: November 1944 - 8/25/2017 4:20:17 PM   
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For the first time, Allied Fighters and Bombers test Shanghai's air defense. The Japanese give a very good account of themselves and manage to mangle a good number of differing B-24/Privateer models. Have sort of set-up a CAP Trap here. Only 70 Japanese Fighters rose to meet the attacks. The AFs were not touched as he went for shipping that was in port. Lose about a dozen odd ships but we hope he thinks we're weak. Nearly 200 Franks and Tonys move into LRCAP or Shanghai itself. If they come back tomorrow, they'll encounter nearly 3x the opposition.





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RE: November 1944 - 8/25/2017 4:22:37 PM   
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A trio of American DDs test the waters north of Shanghai and catch an empty convoy heading home. These DDs do good work sinking all the escorts, 6 AKL, and 3 AKs.

Figuring something like this was coming, I had moved two Judy units into Nanking and they pounce on the DDs during the afternoon. Two of three destroyers are hit:





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RE: November 1944 - 8/25/2017 4:25:46 PM   
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All of southern/western China is now becoming fluid with multiple axis of attack by the Allies. Some attacks work and drive the Japanese back while others are very costly. A Chinese Shock Attack at Kweilin (Sz-6 Forts) sees nearly 20,000 casualties inflicted upon the assaulting units; however, Japan loses 83,60 (north of Foochow), Changteh, and Liuchow.

LOTS of fighting!







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RE: November 1944 - 8/25/2017 4:27:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Am headed out for camping this weekend. We're going to Southern Colorado and riding the Royal Gorge Train and checking out my youngest son's 4-H woodworking project at the State Fair. He got 5th in State. Pretty COOL!


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RE: November 1944 - 8/26/2017 5:29:58 PM   
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RE: November 1944 - 8/26/2017 7:38:30 PM   
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November 11, 1944

A trio of American DDs test the waters north of Shanghai and catch an empty convoy heading home. These DDs do good work sinking all the escorts, 6 AKL, and 3 AKs.

Figuring something like this was coming, I had moved two Judy units into Nanking and they pounce on the DDs during the afternoon. Two of three destroyers are hit:




what the hits?

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RE: November 1944 - 8/26/2017 10:49:34 PM   
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November 11, 1944

A trio of American DDs test the waters north of Shanghai and catch an empty convoy heading home. These DDs do good work sinking all the escorts, 6 AKL, and 3 AKs.

Figuring something like this was coming, I had moved two Judy units into Nanking and they pounce on the DDs during the afternoon. Two of three destroyers are hit:




what the hits?



Based upon the graphic, it looks like 800kg bombs hit, adarbrauner.

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RE: November 1944 - 8/27/2017 9:04:02 AM   
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RE: November 1944 - 8/28/2017 1:54:25 AM   
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Home and ready to rest after a busy weekend. Really recommend the Royal Gorge ride. That is a lovely railroad and the food was magnificent. We rode the lunch train and had Beef Wellington, Salmon, and an excellent BBQ Pork. If you like train rides I really encourage the ride. Cumbres and Toltec is better (it takes most of the day while the RGRR is 2 1/2 hours) but this was quite pleasant.


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RE: November 1944 - 8/29/2017 3:45:41 PM   
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China

We play hide-and-seek throughout the theatre trying to sting Allied airpower wherever possible. Dan has shifted a BUNCH of his Divebombers to ground support. Make a bunch of sense since he isn't using his CVs for any form of action other then carrying fighters. The Japanese have been managing to catch some of these missions and do pretty well when we do find them.

The four Fast BC of Japan reach northern Okinawa on the 13th and are not spotted. They will attempt to engage tomorrow. Cover is assigned to over 200 Fighters. Another 500 or so Fighters and bombers move into Shanghai and its neighboring base. We'll see what the morrow brings!





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RE: November 1944 - 8/29/2017 5:26:58 PM   
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RE: November 1944 - 8/29/2017 5:31:44 PM   
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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:08:08 PM   
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Well...she kind of was but was not.

The BC TF sortied and caught 3 DDs who evaded contact but then the TF made it home to Naha without any interference. Disappointing but we had an EXCELLENT day in the air.


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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:09:25 PM   
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we had an EXCELLENT day in the air.



Pictures or it didn't happen...

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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:10:58 PM   
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Japanese Convoy Route

The Allies finally try to interdict shipping traveling between Borneo and the Marianas. They get STUNG pretty hard trying to get at an empty TK TF moving west. While only 13-18 Franks escort the TF, American Dive Bombers attack in several waves. Net result is losing one TK and having two damaged in exchange for a BUNCH of DB. Five aces are created in one day.

NICE!





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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:12:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Several other places see excellent ATA results. Look at the number of P-51 shot down over Japan this day.





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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:15:53 PM   
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If there's one thing more fun than butchering an unescorted flight or two of SBDs, it's sinking a laden troop convoy. But the SBDs run a close second.

Nice shootin', Tex.

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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:22:17 PM   
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May Amaterasu-ōmikami be on your side!


Well...she kind of was but was not.

The BC TF sortied and caught 3 DDs who evaded contact but then the TF made it home to Naha without any interference. Disappointing but we had an EXCELLENT day in the air.



So he knows they are there now? Or can they go again?

Keep on picking away at the Allied beast...

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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 3:24:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		However you look at those numbers, it was a string of tactical victories, that is for sure. Well done!

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RE: November 1944 - 8/30/2017 5:03:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the current China situation. Multiple thrusts and it appears a northern offensive is imminent.

Order troops to the Manchurian border to create a line there. Eight ID (to join the troops already present) begin moving to the border...





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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 2:56:52 PM   
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Another day and another 50+ DB shot down. Got to admit I really like a steady diet of USN Dive Bombers!





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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 2:59:26 PM   
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Balikpapan

The last three giants of the Japanese Fleet, BBs Musashi, Nagato, and Hyuga arrive at Balikpapan. They stay just long enough to top off their fuel reserves and make for the Marianas. Covering them are Fighters from nearby bases and Sams from CV Hiryu. They head to the Home Islands to aide their smaller, older sisters--the Japanese Battlecruisers.


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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 3:14:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		John, it’s been like 50 pages since I recall seeing a good ole fashioned “Banzai”. 

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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 4:36:40 PM   
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Another day and another 50+ DB shot down. Got to admit I really like a steady diet of USN Dive Bombers!


Hear hear. Dive bombers are part of the complete and balanced A2A diet. Be sure to also take your vitamins P, PBY and B too.

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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 9:56:21 PM   
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John, it’s been like 50 pages since I recall seeing a good ole fashioned “Banzai”. 


I believe that their was a 'plaintive' BANZAI when we creamed those APDs about a month ago...

Ain't been much reason for them of late...

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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 9:56:48 PM   
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RE: November 1944 - 8/31/2017 9:58:36 PM   
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...and, NO, this does not mean this game is over. The writing is on the wall but we're still swinging. I simply cannot wait to begin a new match where I can apply all this late-war education!




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