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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 12:24:24 AM

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Similar to a post I made in the other AAR, with a Japanese twist. Everybody gets what they want. This is Sumo. Posturing, ritual, stomping around, throwing of salt.......and now they hurl themselves at each other. They both wanted this, and now we shall see

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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 12:36:07 AM

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Similar to a post I made in the other AAR, with a Japanese twist. Everybody gets what they want. This is Sumo. Posturing, ritual, stomping around, throwing of salt.......and now they hurl themselves at each other. They both wanted this, and now we shall see

And similar to my post in Dan's AAR, this will be great fun to watch. Muchos gracias to you and Dan for providing us voyeurs with a great show.

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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:13:09 AM

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Using bombs for the KB Kates, even a few, seems counter-productive to me. If there are no CVs and a lot of SAGs plus transports you lose the chance of hitting some before they land. If there is a CV brawl you get 4-5 more TT hits on day one you might have many fewer planes to face on day 2 and you can send your Kates in low to bomb then. Seems like you have planes at all kinds of different altitudes. Might think of getting your CAP and your strike planes aligned at least instead of separate bands for everything.

This. No reason I can see not to send both Vals and Kates at 10k.

Agree. Also agree that, at this stage of the war, a 7 hex strike will limit your ability to bring a lot of firepower to bear. A 250kg bomb versus a 60kg bomb makes all the difference in the world to about half of your strike aircraft.

LOOOONG day at work...

OK. I will rescale to six hexes. This puts me close to the enemy but this is what we WANT anyway: RIGHT??!!

Thought about the whole Kate Torpedo thing all day (didn't see this discussion due to being at work) and I changed my mind. ALL Kates to TT. I have many differing locations to refuel and resupply so it makes sense to CRUSH my opponent with the deadliest form of ordinance I can carry. This applies to the Val point as well.

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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:15:56 AM

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What happened to xAP Brazil Maru?

ETA: Love your flanking screen of submarines, John. Forming a nice 'placemat' for his forces as they move.

Do you mean the AP sunk this turn off of Rangoon? It was empty. TOO bad because that is a pretty big liner.

The SS seem to be working. I have to admit where I got that from. One must place credit where credit is due. (I am a historian after all!) MISTER Nemo's AAR showed something like this up in the Aleutians. I liked it and then gathered my SS to do this.

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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:17:02 AM

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Using bombs for the KB Kates, even a few, seems counter-productive to me. If there are no CVs and a lot of SAGs plus transports you lose the chance of hitting some before they land. If there is a CV brawl you get 4-5 more TT hits on day one you might have many fewer planes to face on day 2 and you can send your Kates in low to bomb then. Seems like you have planes at all kinds of different altitudes. Might think of getting your CAP and your strike planes aligned at least instead of separate bands for everything.

This. No reason I can see not to send both Vals and Kates at 10k.

Deal. Never tried it that way but if it helps fight the dratted non-coordination penalty, that would be great.

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RE: The Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:19:48 AM

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Agree with other posters for val strike at 250kg and kate with torpedoes.
I don't understand why he is going north so slowly.. Isn't a bit strange ?? so you all think he is LRCAPing and just wishes you attack his TF with the KB and so he is just giving you enough time to arrive... But with all your long search planes in the area shouldn't you have already found his CVs??
If this is really his plan it seems a little poor. You'll just crush him! he's inferior in planes, pilots, CV, everithing... He shouldn't' look for a fight at this point and wait for you to come...
By the way could you put any of RA CD units in the probable target bases Terapo, horn island ecc?

You hit the nail on the head. I feel like this is TOO obvious. I am concerned that it is feint but my Emily are picking up nothing else ANYWHERE of consequence.

Truly hope THIS is the right target. Don't want to even THINK about being wrong on this...

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The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:40:06 AM

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November 7, 1942
Combat Report

As said above it was a very long day. We got in the one turn. This will be repeated Friday and Saturday. Am taking my time with these turns not wanting to lose the war to a STUPID thing missed and/or not done. Please bear with this. Add that I work 10 hour days each of the next two and one can see why things slow down.

North Pacific
Nothing

Central Pacific
Nothing

South Pacific
The Raid of Cooktown occurs and bet Dan is surprised! I Sweep of 36 Zero finds no CAP. Three raids bore in and hit the airstrip. A total of 54 Betty--Nells give it some serious redecorating. The runway (Sz-3) takes 29 hits and a number of SBDs are destroyed or damaged on the ground. We lose one plane for the attack. Hopefully, this will force Dan to split his LR CAP to protect his Airfields.

Immediately set the Betty--Nell to Naval Attack Range 11. Move Vals into Tagula, Milne Bay, and Port Moresby. They are set to Range 6. This range equals the range for the Betty-Nell. It is the 'magic line' for our attacks. Zero and/or Tojos fill every field to provide CAP--Escort. Keep Kates at the Lae AF Complex where they can carry TTs Range: 7.

The Air Division at Lae loads up 200 Torps for a single days potential action. Planned on this and this is why Lae has over 35,000 suuply. Each of her outlying AFs have 8-10,000 Supply.

KB remains--apparently--unspotted. Kido Butai advance NNW along the flank of the Allied advance. I WANT the CVs. Haven't spotted them. Wonder if they are hugging the actual coastal hexes? Move a pair of RO- SS to the coastal shore to see.

Begin loading the 2nd Inf Div at Munda as a counter-landing force.

SS Force keeps moving NW as well. Several attacks but no hits.

Terapo's Assault value goes from 95 to 125 in one day. The 54 Tinas haul troops ASAP. Two AK load the ehavy gear and are rounding Milne Bay. They may or may not make it in time.

Mines dropped off at Horn Island and Terapo.

Australia
Dan launches a Port Strike by 3 B-24 and they manage to sink a damaged I-Boat and AKL in Port. OUCH!

Burma
Ramree is hit again by nearly 60 bombers. No Allied CAP.

Very eerily quiet here. Order my Air Search up to cover the Bay of Bengal just to be safe!

Lashio takes 38 Bomber's worth of attention.

The 21st successfully pulls out of its hex and now, safely, moves towards Prome. The 18th ID should be able to hold for several weeks until his reinforcements arrive. As said earlier, I am betting on a Brit or American Inf Div showing up.

LOTS of small units arriving and moving to new places in Burma. Should be able to buyout a new ID tomorrow from Shanghai.

Cripples:
Junyo SYS 14 to 13, FLOT 52, ENG 13
Mutsu SYS 25, FLOT 62 down 60, ENG 32

Engineering:
Shemya Ft-4
Ichang Ft-5
Tabiteuea Ft-4

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The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 4:42:35 AM

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The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 5:02:57 AM

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I am moving my finger to the trigger and taking that first deep breath before letting it out...

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 10:33:55 AM

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 12:22:45 PM

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OK, just make sure this guy is not in command

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 12:52:50 PM

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OK, just make sure this guy is not in command

FANTASTIC! Made me darned near spew my tea this morning.

I keep looking around and over my shoulder for an attack somewhere else but I have air search flying from Adak, Attu, Paramushiro Jima, Marcus, Wake, Jaliut, Roi Namur, Noumea, the focused theatre, Exmouth, Cocos, Benkoelen, and Sabang. The bases and any threat axis APPEAR to be covered. We're gonna find out this coming turn or next...

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The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 5:43:12 PM

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Came home for a quick lunch break and pick-up my car. Thought about this dratted game all through doing prep at the store. How many of you have that happen??!!

Looked through last turn and I really think Dan is going to hesitate. He MUST know I am ready and waiting. He is totally wanting to depend on his LBA to supplement his CV power. I shall not let that happen. My forces will not attack until he is close enough for that LRCAP to weaken. He must come to ME for any plan of his to work. I WANT him to close in. Will bring the ranges back a hex or two to make sure of this. Patience is an absolute virtue and I am taking drugs to keep my natural proclivities from kicking in. We wait...

Waiting gets the following:
1. Reinforcement of Terapo.
2. Mines getting placed at several locations.
3. An Air Flotilla arriving at Milne Bay.
4. Reinforcement of Merauke.
5. Gove, Wessel, and PM are about to increase AF size.
6. Horn, Terapo, Merauke, and Milne about to raise Forts.

Am going to bring my AOs in and refuel KB.

Time is Japan's friend right now.

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 7:03:42 PM

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Came home for a quick lunch break and pick-up my car. Thought about this dratted game all through doing prep at the store. How many of you have that happen??!!

Well, of course. What's REALLY pathetic, John, is when you spend a bunch of your time thinking about SOMEONE ELSE'S game. I find myself doing that on more than one occasion too.

Enjoying the AAR, dude. Keep up the good work.

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 11:02:13 PM

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Thanks Sir. I have been dwelling on this all day.

Just got home and am debating on getting the turn run or not. The wife is...rather...ahhhhhh...uppidy. We are hosting a BUNCH of our church people over here Friday Night and she is stressed about it.

Also promised I'd do Viperpol's Turn FIRST!

Will do an update the MOMENT I can. This might be for a while though...

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 11:08:59 PM

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Understood. A woman who encourages caboose purchases is not to be denied. We shall wait.

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 11:17:55 PM

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Well, of course. What's REALLY pathetic, John, is when you spend a bunch of your time thinking about SOMEONE ELSE'S game. I find myself doing that on more than one occasion too.

I know what you mean! I've got John's screen shot of the converging forces burned into my head and find myself thinking how all this will develop. It's a sad but beautiful thing.

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RE: The Simmering Cauldron - 6/20/2013 11:44:21 PM

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Damn but you made me laugh again Sir. No go with the wife. I slipped down to basement to send this SECRET TRANSMISSION!

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Beautiful BOOSE - 6/20/2013 11:48:57 PM

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Would that be the 'boose you speak of??!!

We are making progress. Interior has all new plywood, painting, by the wife, starts next week, and we are going to reconnect the Breaker Box to our garage and have POWER! Well...we hope...we'll also have a fire extinguisher on hand...

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RE: Beautiful BOOSE - 6/20/2013 11:50:13 PM

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Slinking back upstairs now....shhhhhhhhh... I was NEVER here...

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Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 5:02:07 AM

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Just sent this note to Dan and thought I would place it here:

Real Life has intervened without getting even a look at the turn tonight. My profound apologies but Paula is all riled up about having 25-30 people over tomorrow and threw out a crapload of things to do that we just got semi-completed. Would have been NICE to know these things needed to be done last weekend but we�re ruled by Chaos Theory right now. Sorry. I a venting because all I wanted to do was play this damned turn and give orders for your hoped-for immediate destruction. Not to be.

I will do whatever I can to get something to you tomorrow. I open again and go until 2pm. The law will be laid that I need an HOUR of time to do the turn. Cannot promise but will try to find some reason to get home and at least run the turn so you can see the 001. No promises but I�ll try.

Sorry readers. Will do what I can tomorrow. This kid is bushed and headed to bed so he can get up in seven hours to go to work.

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 6:56:23 AM

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Just sent this note to Dan and thought I would place it here:

Real Life has intervened without getting even a look at the turn tonight. My profound apologies but Paula is all riled up about having 25-30 people over tomorrow and threw out a crapload of things to do that we just got semi-completed. Would have been NICE to know these things needed to be done last weekend but we�re ruled by Chaos Theory right now. Sorry. I a venting because all I wanted to do was play this damned turn and give orders for your hoped-for immediate destruction. Not to be.

I will do whatever I can to get something to you tomorrow. I open again and go until 2pm. The law will be laid that I need an HOUR of time to do the turn. Cannot promise but will try to find some reason to get home and at least run the turn so you can see the 001. No promises but I�ll try.

Sorry readers. Will do what I can tomorrow. This kid is bushed and headed to bed so he can get up in seven hours to go to work.

SEVEN hours!? Luxury! Get back in there and fight, dernit!

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 12:41:33 PM

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Yeah, John, you need to get your priorities in order

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 1:35:42 PM

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Don't forget to double check your air group leaders and Air HQ like I mentioned to you yesterday during your break from work.

OT - I'll take a nap for you today so you feel rested.

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 6:58:40 PM

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The waiting is killing me.

. I want to see your turn more than mine.

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 8:41:34 PM

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7 hours of sleep? Wasted time my friend. During fishing season I average 4-5 hours a night, sometimes less. Sleep when you are dead, you won't be doing anything else then anyways...

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The Cauldron??? - 6/21/2013 11:52:30 PM

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It is dangerous to be an Allied flanker currently. Already 3 AK--AKL have been sunk as well as DD Sands. Well...add USS Drayton SW of Tagula. She is surprised and gets a Long Lance before her guns can hardly respond. NICE!

Not much occurs during this turn November 8, 1942. As expected Dan withdraws towards Townsville hiding under his LRCAP.

GREAT!

I do the following:
1. Pull Strike Ranges down some so he has to be farther from his LR CAP allowing me to get in a do more chance of damage.
2. Kido Butai: A. Refuel tomorrow. B. Splits off two CVL to run over and gain new Aircraft (M5s). Just a one-day run. Dan SEEMINGLY thinks Rabaul is my major base of operations. It is not. Tulagi is Pt-4, has 75,000 fuel, 28,000 supply, 1 AR, 1 AS, 4 AKE, and a Naval HQ. C. Pull 4 CA, 1 CL, and 4 DD to meet another group of DDs at Milne Bay. Am strongly thinking about bombarding Cooktown's AF. YES: Radar is with THREE of those ships.
3. Thanks to Michael's suggestion, I decide to go through all my Daitai/Sentai Leaders. Nearly all are good but I do find a couple of bomber leaders who probably would have challenged 3,000 Wildkittens with his invincible Bettys/Nells/Kates! Also found two WOEFUL Fighter Leaders. Spent about 50 PP to change these leaders into a much more appropriate choice.

In waiting Dan allows me to do the following this day:
1. Mines dropped off at Horn and Port Moresby.
2. Terapo's garrison increases another 20 points. The 3 AK carrying the heavy equipment of the SNLF unit will arrive tomorrow to unload.
3. Three SS arrive at Horn and move to patrol.
4. Move most of the SS Wolfpack to RAISE SOME HELL with the Allied Fleet.
5. Another Betty Daitai arrives at Rabaul and can rest prior to deployment.

SS continue their harrassment:
I-17 sinks an AKL near Townsville
1-7 MISSES BB Nevada. That would have been fun!

That is the major news.

I do apologize for yesterday my readers. It was not a pleasant day between work and home life. We got stuff done but it was frustrating when I knew a turn was waiting...

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 11:53:58 PM

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Don't forget to double check your air group leaders and Air HQ like I mentioned to you yesterday during your break from work.

OT - I'll take a nap for you today so you feel rested.

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 11:54:30 PM

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The waiting is killing me.. I want to see your turn more than mine.

THAT also nearly made my spew my COLD Beer!

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RE: Chaos Theory - 6/21/2013 11:56:17 PM

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Michael reminds me about the Air Flotilla and Air Division Leaders. What do you think is the most important skill for them and why? Input would help bunches. Will change a few leaders with next turn.

Same question but for Naval HQ Leaders.

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