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RE: Lovely! - 1/11/2016 2:01:56 PM   
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Here is the aerial summation of the day. Nearly ALL these losses were over Sumatra. Bad weather closed down the action in Burma.





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Lovely! - 1/11/2016 2:18:57 PM   
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January 27, 1943

Two attacks (in RED) go off on the 27th:
1. The Chinese are blasted out of Mandalay in a 160-1 attack. Send a Brigade after the retreating enemy. The full strength 12th ID moves from Mandalay north to Shwebo to blast the troops present there.

2. Taung Gyi's attack goes reasonably well where the troops there get a 1-1. They miss 2-1 by only 4 Assault Points. CLOSE! Order bombers to hit it tomorrow and the day after. The next assault will drive the Chinese out of that threatened area.

3. Dan's armor retreats into hex 56,47 across the Irrawaddy. A Tank unit is DESTROYED. It is a 1-99 result.

Bad weather closes the AFs all through Burma. This is bad. Dan's troops get a full day in Road March mode. They are bombarded but that is it. A ground bombardment doesn't slow a retreat and force Combat Mode does it?

Four attacks are ordered for the 28th:
1. Shwebo will attempt to clear itself if possible. If not the arriving 12th ID will do that.

2. The depleted units in 57,48 will attack the retreating army. I don't expect much but it cause considerable consternation with my opponent.

3. The Artillery unit present in 56,47 (and any other retreating units that cross the Irrawaddy will be attacked this turn.

4. A weak Brigade between Mandalay and Magwe shall be driven out of its hex.





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RE: Lovely! - 1/11/2016 4:06:26 PM   
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quote:

How about that???


Actually, an immense disappointment to we BB surface action fans. Would have loved to see Indiana vs Nagato. But, okay, it's a definite win for the IJN.

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RE: Lovely! - 1/11/2016 4:34:39 PM   
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You have THAT right! The BBs sank a nice amount of supplies and fuel and got away with NO DAMAGE. That, my friends, is a clear cut victory. Don't want to tangle with that BAD BOY!

Am really hoping my SS can put a hole into her side...


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Storm the Irrawaddy - 1/12/2016 4:38:35 PM   
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I have a true rarity today. I am home WITHOUT wife or children. There is a four hour window of time and Dan and I are already on our second turn of the day. Stand by for updates.


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Storm the Irrawaddy - 1/12/2016 5:20:02 PM   
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The Burma Theatre

We reach the height of anticipation as the Aussie Army attempts to withdraw from hex 57,48 in Burma. Elements begin to crossover with horrific results for the Allied player.

27th
An armored unit crosses the Irrawaddy into hex 56,47 and is destroyed. Waiting there is the veteran 21st ID, 2nd Armored Div, 8th and 18th TK Reg. The 254th TK ceases to exist losing 140 Vehicles.

Taung Gyi sees a Deliberate Attack that gets 1-1.

12th ID moving from Mandalay to Shwebo.

All AIR grounded as bad weather rolls through the area.

28th
Hex 56,47 sees all Allied unit driven out of it with a 96-1 attack. Another TK Brigade (didn't get the number) and an Artillery Regiment is crushed in the action.

In the hex that the Allies are retreating out of (57,48) the Japanese 21st Ind Mixed Brig, 16th ID, and 33rd ID launch an attack into the retreating Allied Army. Result is 1-3 but less then 1,500 troops are lost. Pause the rest and plan another attack trying to time the crossover.

Another 1-1 result at Taung Gyi. Some bombers fly attacking this Chinese Corps. Shift orders to Shock Attack for the 29th.

Nearly all air grounded AGAIN. Crap...

29th
Hex 56,47 sees three HQ units and NOTHING ELSE crossover the Irrawaddy. The attack results in a--GET THIS--1-311 result. The Japanese lose 9 Vehicles to 987 Allied troops and a crapload of disablement to those HQ. Figure the Aussies are coming next turn so we order a Deliberate Attack within the hex.

There is sharp ATA over this hex with Fighters tangling and--frustratingly--Allied bombers getting through. Note that the bombers are coming in at 1,000 Ft and lower all Zeros down to 9,000 Ft to catch them tomorrow. Tojos stay up for high cover.

Taung Gyi's Shock Attack works driving the Chinese Corps away from the base. Results are 10-1 with the Chinese taking 1,398 Cas for 129 Japanese. The 59th-C Inf unit shifts to Strategic Mode for Shwebo. It will combine to form-up the entire ID there.

A full strength Brigade enters the hex east of Mandalay. It shall attack tmorrow and drive those Chinese troops back another hex towards Lashio.

Coming Turn
Air: ALL Japanese Fighters will go over LRCAP over the contested pair of hexes. Shift Bombers around so they sit in four bases and HOPEFULLY they shall fly at the Aussies raising their disablement numbers PRIOR to crossing.

In 56,47 we have ordered a Deliberate Attack that should--hopefully--coincide with the Aussie Shock Attack over the river. Gonna be UGLY!

Hoping that maybe just a unit or two will be left in 57,48 Orders go out for those two beaten down ID and Inf Brig to attack one last time.

Order a Deliberate Attack at Shwebo. Doubt if it will drive those troops out but it will raise their disruption for the full strength 12th ID's attack the next day.

Longer Term
It is my profound HOPE to beat-up the two Aussie ID, 41st American, and 3 Brit Brigades to the point they HAVE to be pulled out. A serious defeat is all we want. I'd have loved to surrounded them but Dan's air slowed me down just ENOUGH to prevent that.

I'll have to pull back the 16th and 33rd ID to Rangoon for R&R and replacements. This will leave four ID in Theatre for operations. The 59th will advance NE towards Katha clearing the railline.

The Imperial Guards, 12th ID, 21st ID and 2nd Armored will drive the enemy back into the jungle.

Conclusion
Once this plays out over the next 2-3 turns, Japanese air shall massively redeploy back to Malaya and Sumatra for the MAIN EVENT gang!

BANZAI BABY! Who would have thought Burma would return to being Japanese and status quo. I sure didn't. Pretty amazing...





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That OTHER Place - 1/12/2016 5:50:32 PM   
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Sumatra--Malaya Theatres


The action in Sumatra and Malaya has slowed some. The departure of 200 Fighters and 200 Bombers to Burma definitely aided in that.

Have already defined the Naval Action that took place earlier so don't need to do that again.

Medan
The massed steel fist of Japan will visit Langsa again tomorrow. The 4 Kongos, Yamato, and 5 CA shall pound this base so there is no chance of Allied aircraft using it. I want them to stay confined to Sabang. Preceding this powerful group are two TF of 1 CL and 3 DDs to sweep the dratted PT Boats that Dan loves so much. Each STF has much lower numbers then the Bombardment TF so this should work pretty well.

After this operation I shall pull the CAs out and send them to the carriers. The loss of 4 CAs (two to Dan and two to the STUPID AI) forces me to place them exclusively with the air arm.

Red Lines
On the screenshot with RED lines are all the soon to be active Japanese AF that will concentrate their massed air power at Sabang. When the redeployment occurs, there will be nearly 600 Fighters to Sweep the target and then we'll add bombers to the assault. I've held off WAAAAAAY too long in doing this. Just simply fearful of the losses. Doesn't matter now. Time to do it.

Other Items
1. I've pulled three damaged ID back to Singapore where they will rebuild much more quickly. Southern Army is there to help with that.

2. We'll be taking back Phuket, Trinkat, as well as that Island just north of Georgetown.

3. Construction units dropped off today at Car Nicobar. AF construction to get going quickly. There are four Construction units present and we'll see this AF move along pretty fast.

4. The Fast TF that dropped off the Construction units returns to Moulmein to pick-up four more and they will get deposited at Great Nicobar for the same purpose.

5. At Soerabaja a Carrier TF of CVs Soryu, Shokaku, 3 CVL, 2 CL, and 9 DD raise anchor and depart. Destination Cocos Isle. After two days at sea, a similar TF of CV Akagi and 2 CVL will move out to join them from Batavia. Nine AOs carrying 80,000 fuel are already present at Cocos to handle refueling. They have a far stouter escort of 1 CL and 6 DDs. The 3 CV and 5 CVL will work on interdiction efforts...






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Crossing the Irrawaddy - 1/12/2016 7:14:36 PM   
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Burma


The Aussies storm across the Irrawaddy under a hail of bombs, shells, and tank fire. This once proud army with sooooo much confidence entered Burma to rid it of Imperial Japan. IUt is a tattered, stinking, wounded group that fight for their lives as they re-cross the river trying to get home.

They make it. Through over 250 bombers they cross the river with everything they have left. The AA is horrific as nearly 20 bombers are shot down.

57,48
The Japanese Deliberate Attack and barely miss a 1-1 result against the enemy. They miss that by just 6 AV. CLOSE! The Shock Attack comes afterward (which makes no sense but...) and it yields a horrific 1-6 result. Losses are not terrible for either side: Japan 363 Cas and 180 Vehicles to the Allied 2,034, 92 Guns, and 38 Vehicles.

The troops in the vacated hex immediately head for Magwe so they can then take the train down to Rangoon for R&R. The 33rd ID still has 200 AV so it is ordered to follow the Aussies and help in the fight for 57,48.

A Brigade and 55th Tank Reg will enter this hex in 1-2 days to help.

Troops stand down from attack to lower disruption a bit prior to another attempt to drive the enemy and force a retreat into the Jungle.

Shwebo
The attack ordered there unfolds as I thought with a 1-2 result. He is attempting to withdraw there as well. The 12th ID should make it tomorrow and then we'll attack and drive the enemy from the hex.

60,46 (East of Mandalay)
The assault here is perfect and the Chinese Corps present is forced to retreat under a 9-1 assault. NICE!

Imperial Guards is on train now and heading for Magwe. If we cannot push the Allied army out of 57,48, I am fully confident--with command of the air--that these BAD BOYS will do the trick!


NOTE: Look at this screenshot and see the damage that has been done. The 41st US and four Brigades have NO AV!





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Next... - 1/15/2016 1:05:44 AM   
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All Allied troops have been cleared from Taung Gyi, Mandalay, and now--today--Shwebo:

The 12th ID arrives and immediately attacks along with elements of four other infantry units. The result is an excellent 8-1 crushing two Brigades and five other smaller units. They retreat up the railroad line towards Katha. In their retreat, they leave behind 3,610 casualties, 41 Guns, and 84 Vehicles. The 12th ID pursues.

Roughly 50 Topsy fly in and immediately begin moving an Inf Reg to Myitkyina where the Allies begin a belated drive after cutting the rail line. Only one Allied unit is moving towards the city so, with this help, it should hold while the 12th finishes off the retreating small army.

56,47
The Japanese bomb the pojees out of the Aussie Army on the 1st and 2nd. Nearly 500 casualties are inflicted each day. The 2nd sees an attack by the Japanese that comes ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so close to a 2-1. AV results are 264 to 157 with Japan losing 1112 Cas and 20 Tanks for 937 Cas, 46 Guns, and 18 Vehicles.

Dan is desperately sending reinforcements through the jungle to help his troops. We bomb with everything possible again tomorrow and then shall launch a SHOCK ATTACK. The timing of this should allow for another Brigade and the pursuing 21st ID to aid the attack. Barring those reinforcements arriving, this SHOULD be enough to force the retreat that we so truly want.







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Banzai! - 1/15/2016 10:35:35 PM   
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Burma


When this match re-started between Dan and I, the situation in Burma looked horrific. Not one, not two, not three, but four armies were all advancing along various portions of Burma and the Irrawaddy Valley. Japanese High Command was forced to use Transports left and right to throw a few hundred/thousand troops into location so that they might barely hold for a few days. Troops were being shuttled furiously between sites along the railroad. In short, the situation was CHAOS incarnate. Have never seen a situation like that before.

The key to the whole situation was the clearance of the strait between contested Sumatra and Malaya. Supplies started to flow and several fresh Infantry Divisions were delivered. While touch-and-go through early-to-mid January, hope--as well as a PLAN--began to form. As stated earlier Japanese High Command broke out their histories of Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign and ATTEMPTED to channel him into the Irrawaddy Valley 1943.

That moment was defining and I can now officially proclaim this campaign won as the entire Australian Army that so threatened central Burma has now been forcibly expunged from the Valley of the Irrawaddy. A Japanese Inf Div, 2nd Armored Div, two tank Brigades, an Infantry Brigade and the hard-charging 33rd Infantry Division inflict a horrific defeat upon the Allies army.

With little-to-no supply, daily aerial attack by 200+ bombers, and no Allied aerial aid, this once powerful army is trounced by Japan's hastily thrown together troops.

Hex 56,47
A Japanese SHOCK ATTACK crushes Allied defenses BEFORE help can arrive. The assault is relentless and scores a 5-1 result. Japan loses 1,369 Troops, 39 Guns, and 104 vehicles. The vast majority of these are disabled. The Allies lose--READY??--10,443 Troops, 201 Guns, and 260 Vehicles. They are thrown back into the jungle.

Render crushed: 41st US Inf Div, 6th and 7th Aussie Inf Divs, and 4 Brigades.

BANZAI!




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Banzai! - 1/15/2016 10:38:27 PM   
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Here is the actual report:





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RE: Banzai! - 1/16/2016 12:00:22 AM   
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For anyone Posting over to Dan's side (asking about this) you need to know that I have the turn and will be sitting on it due to now needing to seriously move some aircraft and other 'assets.' Gonna take quite a while.


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RE: Lovely! - 1/16/2016 12:58:02 AM   
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Great result!

But what did I miss...I thought they had to retreat back across the river?

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RE: Banzai! - 1/16/2016 12:59:56 AM   
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Just sent Dan the 001 so he can watch.


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RE: Banzai! - 1/16/2016 1:52:20 PM   
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You know about my obsession with pairing Army/Corp HQs with a Command HQ when it comes to attacking a base. Have you done so for northern Sumatra?

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The Noose - 1/18/2016 2:47:54 PM   
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February 6, 1943

As several hundred fighters and bombers move into Malaya and Sumatra, 12-14 Base Force and Construction units get movement orders to head for Moulmein for embarkation to islands being 'liberated' by Japanese forces. Transports and Fast Transports wait for their arrival.

Today Trinkat is re-taken as two Paratrooper units and three weak Naval Guard force the surrender of the 132nd Infantry Regiment. Over 1,800 troops are taken prisoner in the operation.

The only island of note left is Phuket. It will be taken within a two days.

The three islands stretching towards Sabang from Port Blair are all Japanese are are all about to gain AFs and QUICKLY! Why Dan never took these bases and stocked them with Engineers and Base Forces leaves me perplexed. He will be limited in the upcoming campaign to a single AF. Now that AF is Sz-8 so it is BIG but that AF is all he shall have...

I am going to begin Fighter Sweeps in two days. The deployment to Burma really stopped this but now that is about to change...





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RE: Banzai! - 1/18/2016 2:51:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

You know about my obsession with pairing Army/Corp HQs with a Command HQ when it comes to attacking a base. Have you done so for northern Sumatra?


Southern Command is in Singapore prepping for Sabang. Am also using it for unit upgrades since there are three Infantry Divisions present there refitting...

Two Army HQ are already at Medan prepping for Sabang.


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Planning - 1/18/2016 6:59:12 PM   
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We're heading out fairly soon to see Star Wars again but I thought it might be a good idea to share the PRELIMINARY Plan for victory in Sumatra.

There are three full strength Japanese ID in the hex below Langsa. These ID (2nd, 5th, 38th--16th Army) are the holding force keeping Dan's troop's attention. He has 6 units present in this hex and nearly 20 more in Langsa.

While the aerial campaign gains control of the skies over Sabang AND work to render it untenable to shipping, the offensive will fully reveal itself.

The 4th, 14th, 21st ID, and 25th Army will cross Sumatra and cut the road/rail-line on Sumatra's east coast. At the same time the 10th and (an as yet un-bought) Chinese/Manchurian ID will advance up the west coast threatening Sabang itself. LOTS of Artillery and Engineers will be with the Sabang prong to make it LOOK like more then there is and make this decoy thrust APPEAR formidable...

The goal is to force Dan into a retreat from below Langsa and out of Langsa itself. If we can unhinge his forces then they will be moving, out-in-the-open, and vulnerable. If he chooses to not retreat from this situation then the blocking force to the north of Langsa will advance to the city and take it from the rear.

The key will be for the troos crossing Sumatra to not be seen until it is too late. I have/am reconning the hexs along the coast and there are no units deployed as of yet. Since this Corps (4th--14th--21st) will be two hexes from Sabang and Langsa, there is a chance they won't be seen. Dan has no recon planes in Sabang. He has PBYs but that appears to be it. This MIGHT have a chance of success...

Southern Army HQ will move from Singapore to Medan and set-up there in about 10 days.

Opinions and/or comments from you armchair generals? I'll take them for all that they are worth.




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Pop Goes the Weasel! - 1/19/2016 4:55:22 PM   
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Japan's I-Boats have a had a magnificent war through early-1943. They sank an American CA a week ot two ago and this this they add a pair of Torp hits on CL Boise. NICE!




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RE: Pop Goes the Weasel! - 1/19/2016 7:09:02 PM   
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Congratulations on the Boise.

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...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/21/2016 12:14:01 PM   
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A damaged Boise THINKS she is nearly home and safe when two more Torps plow into her near Koggala. Think we can say BYE-BYE Boise!



Phuket falls February 11th. Five Engineer units will land tomorrow. Base is only four hexes from Sabang. NICE!

Two days of bloody sweeps over Sabang. Mr Tony makes his debut and does well. We sweep again on the 12th.

Two 4 DD TF are ordered into Sabang.

There are now 3 BB and 4 BC available to Japan at Singers. They shall be formed into two Bombardment TF and hit Sabang within 10 days.





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...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 12:37:23 AM   
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It is time to directly go after Sabang with the Fleet. Here are my assets for the attack


BB: Yamato, Nagato, and Fuso
BC: All Four Kongo's
CL: 4
DD: 22-25

My initial thinking is to send in FOUR TF. We'd do two 'Sweeping TF' of 1 CL and 5 DD to tangle and mess with the formations. The BBs would be go in next to do battle with Indiana (hopefully slightly low on Main Gun Ammo if the first two TF's have done their job), and finally the four Kongos set for bombardment of the AF. Everything will be set in TF Number going low to high so the TF enter the hex in order.

Comments/Ideas?

I see Dan getting input from gadzillions of players and would love some Japanese Fan Boy LOVE here!


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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 12:30:44 PM   
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How many Allied bombers are on the ground at Sabang?

My advice is to send all but one force in as surface groups, and bombard with only one group (and a high numbered task force at that).

Then the following turn you may have the ability to bombard again with other groups, especially if the Allied BB is on the bottom.

I just can't stand having bombardment task forces surprised by enemy task forces, especially one as potent as the Allies field here.

Just my thoughts...




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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 1:44:06 PM   
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You read my mind. The two Sweeping Groups will have lowest TF Numbers then the 3 BBs as a Surface TF, and finally the highest numbered TF will be the Bombardment Group of the 4 Kongos. I figure three BBs SHOULD be enough to knock Indiana out of commission. Have bought time to keep any reinforcements away by bringing in 3 CV and 5 CVL to occupy his attention between Ceylon and Sumatra.


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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 2:41:36 PM   
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There is a ship equipped with radar going in each TF.

Ordered the four TF to Alor Star. They have an easy run to get into Sabang from there.


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...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 2:43:57 PM   
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Burma


This theatre of action has been cleared. On the approaches to Katha, this ID launches its attack and easily defeats the troops that once threatened Shwebo. Another several thousand Allied casualties are entered into the books.

The AF of Burma are emptying as hundreds of fighters and bombers move south to Malaya and Sumatra...





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...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 10:29:04 PM   
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Night Bombing
Had a quick chat with Michael this morning and he made an excellent suggestion about trying Night Bombing of Sabang. Considering he has it chock full of ships in Port and a maximum number of aircraft AF, this sounds like a very interesting idea. What sort of success have people had doing this? Is it better to go after the AF or the Port? Any comments would help.

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Second Topic: Have got to deal with Mines when we tangle with Sabang. I am thinking of setting the bombardment at 20,000 to stay away. Thoughts/comments there? I do have 6 DMS that I could send in with each of the BB/BC TF. Could do three each and they add to the escorts...not sure on that... pretty good chance they would get sunk in a surface fight. Recommendation for a range on the bombardment?


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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 11:33:24 PM   
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Night Bombing
Had a quick chat with Michael this morning and he made an excellent suggestion about trying Night Bombing of Sabang. Considering he has it chock full of ships in Port and a maximum number of aircraft AF, this sounds like a very interesting idea. What sort of success have people had doing this? Is it better to go after the AF or the Port? Any comments would help.



Comments? If you're going to go for night bombing in this era when he has no night fighters you should allow him to bomb your oil.

At minimum you should talk to him about night bombing if it hasn't been done in the game.

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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/23/2016 11:53:12 PM   
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Range 15k and "Escorts No Bombard."

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RE: ...the Monkey Chased the Weasel - 1/24/2016 12:23:21 AM   
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quote:

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Night Bombing
Had a quick chat with Michael this morning and he made an excellent suggestion about trying Night Bombing of Sabang. Considering he has it chock full of ships in Port and a maximum number of aircraft AF, this sounds like a very interesting idea. What sort of success have people had doing this? Is it better to go after the AF or the Port? Any comments would help.



Comments? If you're going to go for night bombing in this era when he has no night fighters you should allow him to bomb your oil.

At minimum you should talk to him about night bombing if it hasn't been done in the game.


He has 300+ fighters that could all be used in that capacity. Some of them are appropriate for the possible job.

I wrote Dan asking for our old House Rules. If he still has them then we'll see if that was addressed.



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