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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 1:48:56 AM   
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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 7:59:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Still a lot of carriers but I wonder if now is the time to be more sneaky. I would have a sizeable but slower group led by Akagi to use as a front. Give it a BC too. A spot on this will look like KB you can keep your larger and faster element hiding in the shadows either for an ambush or to do something more interesting somewhere else

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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 11:16:18 AM   
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Here are the rest (slower) of the CV/CVL:







OK. I'll bite. This is too many carriers for one TF, John. You oughta break this up a bit.


That TF is a masterwork of brilliance and coordination! I, personally, like a single TF of 15 CV/CVL operating together. Nothing troublesome would ever become of this. RIGHT??!!

Makes about as much sense as putting EVERY ship you have into one hex and traveling along with an invincible CAP to protect you...


You're killin me John.

Isn't sailing to your enemies doorstep with your invasion force protected by your unassailable carrier CAP exactly what the Japanese do for the entirety of '42?

And, yes, that carrier TF badly needs more than 4 escorts to protect 11 carriers.

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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 6:01:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is not MY style of play Hans. Read my AARs at the start. I rarely operate KB as a single, massed force until I absolutely have to.

I think four PCs would be enough to protect all those CVs---RIGHT??

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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 6:03:35 PM   
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Still a lot of carriers but I wonder if now is the time to be more sneaky. I would have a sizeable but slower group led by Akagi to use as a front. Give it a BC too. A spot on this will look like KB you can keep your larger and faster element hiding in the shadows either for an ambush or to do something more interesting somewhere else

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I was thinking something akin to setting up a 'decoy' CV TF and making Dan THINK I am down in the DEI. We're pretty like minded there Mr. Jellicoe. GREAT idea!


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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 8:11:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		After working on the turn for the last couple of days, I have sent it to Dan.

Now dubbed "Decoy KB," a CTF of CV Akagi, 3 CVL, 1 BC, 1 CL, and 5 DD depart Etorofu heading for Singapore. Got a hare-brained raiding idea of minimal risk but maximum exposure. Think I shall try that...


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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 9:13:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's a lot of fuel you are wasting on a decoy. Just my two cents. Instead, I would do a TF with minimal CVLs (and any CVEs you might have). No need for all your fleet CVs. I would accompany this with a heavy AO replenishment decoy to make him think there are more ships than his recon is telling him.

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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 9:17:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		AOs are already there. Am making sure they keep getting spotted 'accidentally.'

Fuel is not an issue. Got buckets of it at Singers. That place is out only after I've loaded 125-175,000 Fuel/Oil in it for a homeward bound TF.

Am going to make the decoy look stronger by adding a couple of Judy Daitai on Akagi so it LOOKS like more then it is.

Don't have ANY CVEs. All lost in one in that horrific CV Battle we had in the late-summer of 1943.


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RE: An exercise... - 12/15/2016 9:21:21 PM   
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RE: An exercise... - 12/17/2016 9:30:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got those little ones coming in a few months but they will be used as escorts within my KT Convoys.

Dan is back and we are at it again.


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Whack a MOLE! - 12/19/2016 9:33:39 PM   
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I am busy playing 'whack a mole' with Dan over the skies of Burma. Staged a decent ambush over Mandalay on the 23rd and do even better on the 24th. Moved the LR CAP to the skies over the 70th ID.

He has now started sweeping every target over Burma with at least a single Fighter Squadron. They usually meet up with 38-45 Franks who fight off the Fighters and then stand a good chance at taking on un-escorted bombers. YUMMY!






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Whack a MOLE! - 12/19/2016 9:35:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are a crap ton of Allied aircraft flying the skies over Burma and for the last 14-20 days I have gotten the far better side of the casualty numbers. Wager I have shot down 3 or 4 for every 1 I've lost in Burma during this time. Have actually made up a good amount of ground in the air-to-air department.





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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/19/2016 9:37:41 PM   
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The decoy KB leaves Hiroshima after picking up a 'large' friend in the form of BB Musashi. TF is now 1 CV, 4 CVL, 1 BB, 1 BC, 1 CL, and 7 DD. Should be enough to stir up some potential trouble. Headed for Singapore. Hopefully, they shall be spotted on the way...

Down in the Operational Area this TF will join-up and reform with a BB, 2 CL, and 9 DDs. This will be the entire extent of the Japanese Naval commitment to fighting the DEI incursion. I want them to MAKE NOISE! (Just, hopefully, without getting killed too quickly and/or too easily.



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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 4:20:40 AM   
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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 4:43:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		The boys just cued up and we watched the first 10 minutes of Episode Four. SEAMLESS! Fantastic. Wasn't sure about Disney buying the Star Wars franchise but after The Force Awakens and now Rogue One I really begin to appreciate them.

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 7:00:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I for one am NOT enthused with the direction Disney is taking it...

TFA was an atrocious, masturbatory amalgamation of hackneyed plot points held together by contrivance after contrivance. Not to mention, overall weak characters and pointless homages to the originals purely for appealing to fanboys of the most basic sort. Truly, a J.J. Abrams movie. I do think that Rogue One was better (though overall a weak plot), but it isn't hard to be better than absolute crap. I did enjoy how it connects into Ep 4 near the end.

Then again, while I was in the bathroom waiting for a stall to open up after the movie, I listened to a 8-year old boy tell his dad about how he "liked it [Rogue One] but that The Force Awakens was better." So what do I know?

Keep in mind, I'm not passing any judgments on Ep 1, 2, or 3 or making the claim that they were somehow better than Rogue One (though in some ways better than TFA). 4, 5, 6 are still by far the gold standard.

Disclaimer: I used to consider myself a huge Star Wars fan. Read the books, had encyclopedias, etc.

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 7:49:13 PM   
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I for one am NOT enthused with the direction Disney is taking it...

TFA was an atrocious, masturbatory amalgamation of hackneyed plot points held together by contrivance after contrivance. Not to mention, overall weak characters and pointless homages to the originals purely for appealing to fanboys of the most basic sort. Truly, a J.J. Abrams movie. I do think that Rogue One was better (though overall a weak plot), but it isn't hard to be better than absolute crap. I did enjoy how it connects into Ep 4 near the end.

Then again, while I was in the bathroom waiting for a stall to open up after the movie, I listened to a 8-year old boy tell his dad about how he "liked it [Rogue One] but that The Force Awakens was better." So what do I know?

Keep in mind, I'm not passing any judgments on Ep 1, 2, or 3 or making the claim that they were somehow better than Rogue One (though in some ways better than TFA). 4, 5, 6 are still by far the gold standard.

Disclaimer: I used to consider myself a huge Star Wars fan. Read the books, had encyclopedias, etc.


I concur with this assessment.

With the exception of passing judgements on Ep. 1, 2, or 3, which I am prepared to do at this time:

Rubbish. Bilge wash. Codswallop. Derivative trash.

That is all.

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 8:09:51 PM   
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I thought the plot was easy to follow and much more “realistic”. Find the scientists daughter, use her to get to the scientist to kill him – seems much more realistic of a “rebellion goal” – than “find scientist daughter, use her to turn scientist - who’s spent 20 years saying how pro-empire he is – to the rebellion side”.

Also – having half of the rebels think “omg they have a weapon that will kill planets” and then argue “screw this rebellion thing, I give up” is much more likely than “omg they have a superlaser, lets all band together and launch an attack on it that has a .025% chance of success”.

Having the rebel spy guy act like a spy (killing one of his informants to escape and keep him quiet – then lying about his real mission) and not some superhero – was good.

That the rebellion was made of different factions and not “one big happy family” – brilliant.

That Vader was omnipresent throughout the movie, but his character wasn’t the focus of the movie or even necessary to it, was brilliant. That we got to see him for 30 seconds of smackdown was just the right amount, imho. Of course, I wouldn’t mind seeing a 2 hour movie about Vader spending the entire movie with that red sword of his “lit” too. 

That Tarkin was his evil self, but also a grand strategist (don’t kill the whole planet, just kill that city ) even being a total CGI creation, was pretty neat. I wonder how that CGI will hold up in 10 years.

I like TFA because I watched it with my 10 year old daughter, and she loved it, and I could see in her, the joy and excitement I had when I saw ANH in the theaters.

Now, off to watch the sequel to rogue one. I heard it’s about some farm boy that develops some basic magical powers, flies a spaceship he’s never flown before, and manages to destroy a planet killing spaceship the size of a small moon with a one-in-a-million lucky shot, all the while being hounded by the galaxy’s most accomplished dual Master Swordsman / Grand Wizard cyborg machine-man creature. Yeah that plot is believable. 


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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/20/2016 8:16:11 PM   
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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/21/2016 5:17:45 AM   
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Placing Vader's 'retreat/citadel' at Mustafar was fantastic. Total irony.

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/22/2016 2:23:37 PM   
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I've had your two AARs open on tabs on my phone for about three months. It wasn't until I saw a comment about Rogue One that I realized I was "catching up to live TV."

Great AARs, it's been fascinating to read both sides, see the strategies develop, and so on. And I'm blown away by the personal side both of you have shared.

I'd been considering the game, and reading these two threads pushed me over the ledge. Thank you both for the time you've put into letting readers in on your game and your lives.

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/22/2016 5:49:10 PM   
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The N1K2-J goes into official production at a rate of 235/month. Give me a much better (meaning non-hangar queen) plane!

Decoy-KB passes Formosa and Luzon heading for Singapore...


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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/22/2016 5:55:24 PM   
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Wait.... I'm at the end? What am I going to read now? :-)

I've had your two AARs open on tabs on my phone for about three months. It wasn't until I saw a comment about Rogue One that I realized I was "catching up to live TV."

Great AARs, it's been fascinating to read both sides, see the strategies develop, and so on. And I'm blown away by the personal side both of you have shared.

I'd been considering the game, and reading these two threads pushed me over the ledge. Thank you both for the time you've put into letting readers in on your game and your lives.


Glad to contribute to your delinquency Sir.

I haven't seen Dan's AAR but I know it can be...shall I say...very DIVERSE in its subjects and free-wheeling conversations. We also tend to put our personal lives into the AARs and I feel that strengthens our understanding and bonds with each other and our readers. To say that I adore the man is an understatement. Cannot wait for the day we actually meet. That shall be COOL!

His is much more detailed while mine is spottie reflecting the craziness of our lives. His kids are mostly grown up where mine are entering the DREADED teenage years. SCARY! His job is a passion and delight that is tailor-made for time on the AAR and flipping turns. Wish mine was. Looks like Paula and I will finally buy our two franchises this year so, conceivably, it will free up a bit more time for AE--MAYBE! Sort of pends on what Subway has in mind for 2017.

How long did it take to read our AARs? Bet it was quite the endeavor. The personal stuff of when he suspended our game and then same for me a few months ago has got to be very interesting to read...


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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/22/2016 8:09:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Took 8-10 weeks... Not bad considering it's 375 PAGES of posts. There were several times along the way where I almost commented on something, then caught myself and realized the post I was about to comment on was older than my daughter. Your AAR styles are very different, and his definitely has a lot more side conversations.

I feel your pain re free time, though I'm not certain "small business owner" generally means LESS hours working. :-)

My daughter is 3, so the dread teen years are ahead. I'm mid 40s, so the general health degradation is just starting... PSA, colonoscopies, dermatologists, and all kinds of fun right around the corner. :-) I'm really glad your biopsy was clean!

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RE: Whack a MOLE! - 12/22/2016 8:12:50 PM   
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Did you know? - 12/23/2016 4:31:52 AM   
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February 28, 1944 sees the appearance of the Allied CTF off of Gove. Have to admit I am rather relieved. Hadn't seen his one hex 1,000,000+ ship TFs in nearly two weeks.

Manage to actually hit a valuable target and it sees 2 500 Kg bombs penetrate the Deck Armor.

A lot of things going on in Burma. Have a feeling that we are about to heat up again there. It will not be a serious fight this time...






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March 1944 - 12/24/2016 4:28:20 PM   
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Just got my TT carrying Peggy to advance to 4-44 and it will begin production by mid-March. ALL IJA bomber production shifts to that aircraft from now til the end.

Have over 200 George-2 producing so we'll work to quickly upgrade the frontline Daitai with those.

My Sam's advanced from June to May 1944 as well and I REALLY hope to get the to April. If I can move them to April ALL my CV-Based Daitai will get that magnificent plane first.


ACTION IS EMINENT! I will detail three separate plans in differing theatres that are currently in motion that will attempt to distract/slow down Allied momentum.


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RE: March 1944 - 12/24/2016 5:18:48 PM   
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ACTION IS EMINENT!


Action is eminent in any wargame! But it's nice that it is also imminent in your game.

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RE: March 1944 - 12/24/2016 5:33:34 PM   
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ACTION IS EMINENT!


Action is eminent in any wargame! But it's nice that it is also imminent in your game.






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RE: March 1944 - 12/25/2016 4:42:51 PM   
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Saw we just went over 200,000 views on the AAR. Thank YOU everyone!


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