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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 5:05:03 AM   
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Your calcs are at Combat mode, what if he tries at "Move" mode, you cant offer Air to Ground resistance and he might be willing to try to bounce your roadblock?????


No, the calculations are for move mode. On yellow roads, troops in move mode make 12 miles per day. Through jungle, they make four miles per day. (That's assuming that a yellow road in Sumatra is the same as a yellow road in India, which I'm sure is the case. I've had a host of units moving in India recently, so I've been monitoring movement carefully.)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 2:58:27 PM   
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Battle of Sumatra: No Kongos. No Six Sisters (though I think the latter will hit Langsa next turn). Enemy bombers focus on Langsa. No sign of imminent enemy amphibious action or overland campaign vs. Langsa and hex to the south.

The most interesting thing is the change to the Japanese units moving on the west side: whereas yesterday there were two units and a movement "dot" indicate northwest travel (into the hex in which the US RCT is on picket duty), now there seems to be just one IJA unit in the hex and no movement dot. Could just be FOW. I'll know tomorrow if John might have scrubbed the idea due to that Allied picket, suggesting to him the Allies aren't asleep. Add that to any time- and supply concerns and that's a plausible explanation. But it might just be FOW.

No sign of KB today, though I think she's still near Sinabang (judging by the types of ASW strike aircraft targeting Allied subs in the area).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 3:34:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: paullus99

I'll still never understand why people play John & his "Uber-Hulk" Japanese Fanboy scenarios.....you might as well be using swords against machine guns.....plus, he's a bit of an ass about it.



John's evolution of this mod into Between the Storms gives the Allies all kinds of new toys and uber strength.

I played it against the AI into November of '43 before getting distracted by a mod based on BTS that goes even further in giving the Allies the full kitchen sink. Focus Pacific.

Yes, John's mods beef the Japanese, but he is a fair minded player looking for a challenge, not a patsy and he seeks to keep the Allies competitive in his mods.

I think you do him an injustice.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 4:51:40 PM   
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Battle of Sumatra: Ise and Nagato bombard Langsa today along with full concentration of enemy strike aircraft there. No sign of the Six Sisters there, nor any sign of the Kongos at Sabang, where they are now overdue. KB (or this branch of it) is located WSW of Sabang and close in. There was FOW over towards the west road - still two units with the movement dot indicated NW direction. If my calculations were dead on perfect (highly unlikely), those units can reach the next hex around March 28. But I'll start "expecting them any day now" in another turn or two.

SWPac: The Peanut Brigade is in motion, 3 towards Check 3, 1 and 2 towards Check 1.

SoPac: The marines took vacant Funafuti yesterday.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 5:55:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: paullus99

I'll still never understand why people play John & his "Uber-Hulk" Japanese Fanboy scenarios.....you might as well be using swords against machine guns.....plus, he's a bit of an ass about it.



John's evolution of this mod into Between the Storms gives the Allies all kinds of new toys and uber strength.

I played it against the AI into November of '43 before getting distracted by a mod based on BTS that goes even further in giving the Allies the full kitchen sink. Focus Pacific.

Yes, John's mods beef the Japanese, but he is a fair minded player looking for a challenge, not a patsy and he seeks to keep the Allies competitive in his mods.

I think you do him an injustice


John and FatR did most of the heavy lifting in developing RA in the earlier versions. John did his Master's Thesis on the Washington Treaty, so he has an above average understanding of the issues. Since then, I've been involved to keep things in line with what Japan could do with foreknowledge vs some being developed that are more fantasy than 'what if' mods. There were a few shipyards expanded, but Japan's economy was changed (less) at start to reflect that. The IJA has been left untouched. The IJN got all the changes and there isn't a huge increase in warships. A few more CAs, the Shokaku-kai Class CV used for the follow up 6 heavy CVs, 6 CVL at start and 6 more built, a better AA based DD, and some improvements in escorts ASW devices to protect their xAKs. Players can choose what mods to play or not play. But I would suggest you download the newest version of RA, Treaty, Between The Storm, or BTS Lite and send me feedback on what you think is too much. My next revision will try to address how to streamline all those unused Grant/Lee and Matilda tanks that sit in the pools while the armored formations in India are starving for something better than the 'Improv AFV (Hvy).'

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 6:07:54 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/12/2016 6:08:01 PM   
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Battle of Sumatra: The Six Sisters and concerted enemy airstrikes vs. Langsa. These seem to do relatively little damage in comparison to Sabang, possibly because this is jungle terrain.

Those two enemy units on the west side continue to move NW. The picket Allied RCT's AV is up to 58.

No sign of imminent enemy invasion of Langsa or Sabang. No sign of enemy land campaign in the Langsa sector. So, at the moment, it seems that John is focusing on the west route.

KB remains WSW of Sabang and close. Consistent strength reports showing roughly 205 fighters and 190 strike aircraft, so this isn't the full KB.

SWPac: Two days back, a TF bringing some Kiwi fighters from Perth to Diego Garcia reported 3/3 detection. I diverted the TF to Capetown. On her way to map's edge, she stumbled across a sub (no doubt this is a Glen-equipped sub responsible for the detection) that fired a shoot but missed. That was lucky. More significantly, this indicates I'll be better off sending the two Aussie divisions from India to Oz via Capetown rather than chancing the map's-edge journey. My most optimistic estimate that the Allies can be ready to move in 60 days in Oz might be delayed a bit, but not much. I think by mid May, the Allies will have had time to bringin enough American troops to Oz plus accumulate enough PP to buy out a few Oz divisions, that the operation will commence. SigIn and base-building info continue to show holes and weaknesses in the adjacent areas that are under chief consideration as targets.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/14/2016 5:04:45 AM   
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Battle of Sumatra: The Japanese "stack" heading towards the yellow road on the west coast has grown to three units; none have made the crossing to the USA RCT hex yet, but that will come within the next few days. No sing of imminent enemy invasion of Langsa or Sabang, nor of ground campaign on the Langsa side of the island. The Kongos bombarded Sabang on the 22nd. The KB has moved down the Malacca Strait to near Georgetown. Allied supply continues to hold well, which is key to medium turn security, I think.

Battle of Burma: John has units chasing the Chinese back towards Lashio, including 33rd Division. Any division working in the hinterlands there instead of in Sumatra is a plus.

Elsewhere:Some signs that John is shifting his focus a bit to cover other vectors of attack. For instance, SigInt reports a brigade on the move to Tabituea. The recent marine capture of Funafuti is responsible.

The two Australian divisions making the long journey from India to Oz via Capetown will depart Bombay in the next day or two. They're a bit beat up after tough fighting in Burma, but will totally 600 AV+ by the time the next campaign begins. I'm parceling out ships amongst the southern ports. Already there are 35 LST. By the time operations are ready to go, there may be as many as 75. American shipyards are producing steadily now.

John has gone dark in his AAR. I don't have any spidey tingles suggesting why. He might be up to something, or he might simply be worn out from working three games simultaneously. But we've been flipping turns of late, which suggest he is engaged. I wonder if he interprets the activity on my part as imminent offensive action? He'd be wrong, of course. I'm just wanting the calendar to flip into April and then May.

BB Ramilles: Two or three days back, Ramilles reached Capetown and was withdraw with 51 major FLT damage. This brought to an end a long, difficult, trying journey. She was damaged during the Naval Battle of Assam in October '42. She managed to egress from the Bay of Bengal without getting sunk. She disbanded at Attu when the KB threatened. Then she got stuck there and sat there for the 2.25 years the game was in hiatus. When we resumed, I finally managed to extract her. She wouldn't accept orders to sale to Capetown. Eventually, a helpful Forumite suggested pairing her with a large xAK that might shepherd her to map's edge. That worked. But it then took 54 days for her to cover the distance to Capetown, and she kept springing leaks en route. Getting her there and withdrawing her ahead of the due date is a big behind-the-scenes accomplishment.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/14/2016 11:40:18 AM   
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She disbanded at Attu when the KB threatened


I don't think she was in western Aleutians. Maybe at Addu, instead.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/14/2016 6:26:10 PM   
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Battle of Sumatra: The situation remains the same - no bombardments today, enemy air concentrates on Langsa, no indications of amphibious targeting there or Sabang, and movement dots still in place on the west side (and none of the units have advanced a hex yet - each day is helpful, but it'll be within five days now, I think.)

No sign of the KB today.

John is casting around a bit more in an effort to feel out the Allies - subs further afield, ships too, and new patrols - most of this action from Addu (yup, MIchael, you're right) all the way to Tabituea.

6th and 7th Aussie divisions should depart Bombay in a turn or two for the journey to Capetown.

SigInt has been remarkably unhelpful the past four turns, but no signs of worrisome enemy activity in Java, New Guinea, Admiralties or New Britain.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 2:43:54 PM   
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Battle of Sumatra: The Six Sisters and the Kongos hit Sabang and, in the process, take out the last ACM. Two BBs hit Langsa, as do the bombers. KB is re-sighted near Georgetown. As usual, no sign of imminent attacks by land in the Langsa and Sabang sectors. The first enemy unit advances to the yellow road on the west coast. I think John will bombard today and attack tomorrow. The US RCT there is 60 AV with JR terrain, so it won't halt the Japanese advance. Further up the road, a tank unit and 1st Marines will be waiting in rough terrain. The biggest question is whether John will invade now that he's siphoned off these units to the west side.

Battle of Burma: Allied heavy bombers hit Magwe, which has no CAP but lots of 2EB on the field. The main accomplishment is taking out some supply.

SWPac: Peanut 2 (100%) will reach Check 1 tomorrow.

SoPac: A marine detachment aboard an xAKL is nearing Vitupa, which is ungarrisoned. But John may react this time. SigInt is showing a Mixed Brigade unit inbound to Tabituea, and I think he has patrols operating there now. So freebees may be over.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 4:25:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I may be harsh, but I don't see how the allies can be competitive in these types of mods for at least a couple of years - and any defeat or loss of major warships they suffer at the beginning, puts them further back in the timeline.

I don't see this as John trying to competitive - I see it as his way to beat up on the allies for a couple of hundred turns until the frustrated allied player goes somewhere else.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 4:49:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who's been doing the beating up in this game, really? Isn't it apparent that the Allies are doing remarkably well, especially given the disparity in aircraft pools? I've said all this before, but permit me to say it again:

1. The Allies have retained the initiative more or less since late Spring of '42. John's been reacting to Allied moves in the Aluetians, then Gilberts, then the big Oz feint, and now Sumatra.
2. As a result, he's failed to expand anywhere close to his normal perimiter (with the exception of New Caledonia).
3. He's taken it on the chin in the air war (losing 3k more aircraft than the Allies to date).
4. The war at sea has been tough on both sides, I think, but the Allies have done pretty well overall, I believe, especially in sinking cruisers and destroyers.
5. The Allies repeatedly take the high ground and force the enemy to attack (Longstreet's methodology, of course). Thus far John's been able to handle things in the Aluetians and Gilberts, but he's still struggling in Sumatra to regain what he's lost.
6. This may seem a small thing, but John lost Medan for a month. When he recaptured it, the oil production and refinery were destroyed. I think that has certain long-term affects on him.

To date, the Allies have considerably more territory than normal, have efficiently attrited the enemy at sea and in the air (to my reckoning, anyhow), and John's been totally in react mode for a year. Now the Allies are about ready to begin the true offensive stage of the game, rather than the spoiling attack stage.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:07:44 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:28:14 PM   
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I may be harsh, but I don't see how the allies can be competitive in these types of mods for at least a couple of years - and any defeat or loss of major warships they suffer at the beginning, puts them further back in the timeline.

I don't see this as John trying to competitive - I see it as his way to beat up on the allies for a couple of hundred turns until the frustrated allied player goes somewhere else.

Sorry, I'll shut up now.

The time investment to play this game is significant. For the Allied player getting smacked around in the early war by the Japanese, with even historic forces, is not much fun. Giving the Japanese substantially more resources for applying the early war smack down just increases the misery, as well as having the potential to prolong the misery. The flip side is that the modifications do not increase Japanese economic capacity, so eventually the additional forces will become a bigger onus on the Japanese economy. The problem is that this encourages a Sir Robin approach by the Allies, and an I give up response by the Japanese when the initiative shifts. And that makes for a dissatisfying game for both players.

The modifications are fine for Allied players who don't have a problem investing their time in a game they are willing to lose in crushing fashion, kudos to Canoerebel, with an active defense. The problem is that most players are not willing to invest the time to let JFBs exercise their fantasies when it is all too common for the JFBs to lose interest once the fun times are over.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:31:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Who's been doing the beating up in this game, really? Isn't it apparent that the Allies are doing remarkably well, especially given the disparity in aircraft pools? I've said all this before, but permit me to say it again:

Channeling your opponent, however:

1. The Allies have retained the initiative more or less since late Spring of '42. John's been reacting to Allied moves in the Aluetians, then Gilberts, then the big Oz feint, and now Sumatra. Yes, but BANZAI!
2. As a result, he's failed to expand anywhere close to his normal perimiter (with the exception of New Caledonia). It's all good because, you know, BANZAI!!
3. He's taken it on the chin in the air war (losing 3k more aircraft than the Allies to date). The Power of BANZAI renders your points moot!
4. The war at sea has been tough on both sides, I think, but the Allies have done pretty well overall, I believe, especially in sinking cruisers and destroyers. Our shipyards are in BANZAI Mode. Soon hundreds of replacements will sally forth like grunion running in the surf. Or, umm, something. But, BANZAI!!!!
5. The Allies repeatedly take the high ground and force the enemy to attack (Longstreet's methodology, of course). Thus far John's been able to handle things in the Aluetians and Gilberts, but he's still struggling in Sumatra to regain what he's lost. Longstreet was not under the true warrior's BANZAI curtain. Also, he smelled of rancid butter. BANZAI!!!!
6. This may seem a small thing, but John lost Medan for a month. When he recaptured it, the oil production and refinery were destroyed. I think that has certain long-term affects on him. Nonsense! Our ships run on pure BANZAIness. BANZAIitiude. BANZAIishness. One of those stupid English-isms.

To date, the Allies have considerably more territory than normal, have efficiently attrited the enemy at sea and in the air (to my reckoning, anyhow), and John's been totally in react mode for a year. Now the Allies are about ready to begin the true offensive stage of the game, rather than the spoiling attack stage.

Weak-kneed, Mickey Mouse-loving, fight-like-girls Allies shall fall to their bellies and beg forgiveness for violating the realm of the BANZAI! I now leave you with you with the pure, fiveple-dog-dare-you uber-BANZAI. BANZAI!! BANZAI!! BANZAI!! BANZAI!! BANZAI!! (Eat a hamburger, American Dog!)

All in good fun of course. Not a whit of truth here.





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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:35:26 PM   
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Longstreet was not under the true warrior's BANZAI curtain. Also, he smelled of rancid butter. BANZAI!!!!


You missed that one.


"Longstreet, pfui. I am channeling Stonewall! Banzai!!!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:49:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		He has to retake Sabang, it's a huge threat to his oil. You are holding down a superior force, hopefully allowing a strike somewhere else.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:53:22 PM   
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Longstreet was not under the true warrior's BANZAI curtain. Also, he smelled of rancid butter. BANZAI!!!!


You missed that one.


"Longstreet, pfui. I am channeling Stonewall! Banzai!!!

All in good fun.


Stonewall only made it half way through the war.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 5:58:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is good to know that some other people find John's exuberance a tad exasperating ;]

This game was never designed to be fair and I for one dont mind getting beaten on for a few years if I can turn the tables.

The Japanese player could find it rough from the start with no chance for improvement!!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 6:04:38 PM   
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Longstreet was not under the true warrior's BANZAI curtain. Also, he smelled of rancid butter. BANZAI!!!!


You missed that one.


"Longstreet, pfui. I am channeling Stonewall! Banzai!!!

All in good fun.


Stonewall only made it half way through the war.


It is not longevity, but elan. BANZAI!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 6:13:41 PM   
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Moose, you are too much. That's John in a nutshell - "Banzai!"

Battle of Sumatra: 10th IJ Division dispensed with a probing bombardment and used a deliberate attack to rough up the USA RCT in the picket position. The RCT retired a hex and John can advance. I'm going to give him another freebie hex to draw him that much further up the yellow road before he'll begin to encounter stiffer resistance. I would much rather have John focused on four divisions (or whatever) moving up that long wesern road than him geting desperate and invading Langsa or Sabang. Of course, he may be planning somesuch, but there's no sign of it in the near term.

Four Sisters bombard Langsa and enemy strike aircraft focus there, as usual. The KB returns to position SW of Sabang. It helps me to know her whereabouts.

SigInt that a brigade is inbound to Port Blair. So that's two brigades - the other bound for Tabituea - and still no SigInt that John is reinforcing the key Java to New Britain arc of bases I'm focusing most upon.

My first choice is to invade Java. It's important, right now it's weakly defended (judging by long-term SigInt), it's easy to select a poorly defended port, and I've never invaded there before. Over my WitP/AE career, I've tried a variety of deep thrusts: Kuriles '42, Sumatra '42, Iwo '43, Hokkaido/Sikhalin Island '43, and China coast '44. I haven't tried Java and the Philippines before and those have occupied most of my thoughts in this game.

SoPac: The AI flips Vaitupu to Allied control a turn before the marines arrive. Freebie. A small expeditionary force is loading at Shangri La and bound for Canton Island. I'd be surprised if that invasion actually comes about - I think John is reinforcing that theater now. But this is just in case events elsewhere draw his attention.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 6:39:07 PM   
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He has to retake Sabang, it's a huge threat to his oil. You are holding down a superior force, hopefully allowing a strike somewhere else.

I think Jiii is quite happy with the situation.

Sabang is threatening nothing, no aircraft, no shipping, half a dozen divisions waiting to be bashed. Even when the much vaunted Hellcats arrive CR will be out numbered in CV and will be facing some very experienced IJN pilots, the results are not assured.

Movement in the South Pacific is good, but IMVHO a month late, Jiii is committed to clearing Sabang, he should seal you off and tidy up later.

If there was a vote, mine would be against Java, its too late to draw forces from Sumatra and very close to a japanese hub. If your forces were stronger (or the IJA weaker)I might change my mind. Any movement into the Timor/Ambon/Celebes is OK if you have strong airpower, not yet an Allied advantage.

CR has done well, many are defending Karachi in vanilla mods, but I dont think the position is strong.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 6:49:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		John has to keep all his assets in place in order to keep Sabang buttoned down. Primarily, if he pulls KB away, the Allies will be able to reinforce wtih combat ships and fighters. Then he has to address the situation afresh. I don't see him winding up the ground game in the next 60 days. At this point, I'm primarily wanting it to buy the time for the Allies to invade en masse elsewhere. And I thinkI can create the kind of diversion that will make Java or New Guinea or the Admiralties possible.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 6:54:35 PM   
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However I'm not convinced yet.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 7:00:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		My only concern to your plan, and I have said it before, is his satellite airfields. If he gets them to level 4 then LBA can continue the blockade, perhaps with a small carrier contingent as support (remember, he gets more carriers in this mod than normal). He can run his gunships for bombardments. This will free up his KB to react to any moves on Java.

I'm not being critical, just voicing my concerns on your plans. In any event, it's gut check time & see where we land

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 7:06:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well it's still early to be convinced of anything. But my overall plan is to grab another chunk of high ground and force John to attack again, in essence repeating what we've just gone through in Sumatra. From that standpoing, Java, New Guinea, and New Britain are enticing. It will be important to draw John out of position a bit - such as a feint towards Sumatra or Port Blair or New Caledonia. He's so aggressive that I think I can accomplish this, just as I did prior to the Sumatra invasion.

Going back to my earliest games of AE and WitP, I used to put the ebb and flow of the game in these terms:
1941 - Year of Surprise
1942 - Year of Japanese Aggression
1943 - Year of Parity
1944 - Year of Allied Aggression
1945 - Year of Conquest

The Allies don't expect to win the war this year. I just want to keep John reacting and attacking defensively, if that makes sense.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 7:13:08 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Mr Kane pulled off a great early invasion of Java. One thing to note is the Dutch troops will respawn at Tjilatjap too I believe.

I find it hilarious that everyone has such diverse opinions on this mod and this game. It is so entertaining, and seemingly, the players are having a lot of fun (and stress) from playing it.

Including all us jokers in the peanut gallery are having a blast chiming in too.

Seems like a win-win-win.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 7:16:41 PM   
Lecivius


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Status: offline 		Oh yeah, I'm having a blast from the peanut gallery. I'm getting ulcers thinking on those electrons in Sabang, and it's not even my game

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/15/2016 7:23:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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Longstreet was not under the true warrior's BANZAI curtain. Also, he smelled of rancid butter. BANZAI!!!!


You missed that one.


"Longstreet, pfui. I am channeling Stonewall! Banzai!!!

All in good fun.


Stonewall only made it half way through the war.


It is not longevity, but elan. BANZAI!



Stonewall? Elan? He was a complete sourpuss. Kind of a dick, even.

And I say that having served on the sub named for him. I ate every meal in the wardroom with a replica of his saber poking me in the back.

Oh, sorry. BANZAI!!!!!!!!

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