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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 5:10:52 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:22:25 AM   
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Big Tent: John picked up low detection on at least one of the TFs, reinforcing the general movement towards Midway.

Reconnaissance shows that John is defending forward in strength. The intel is pretty interesting:

1. Marcus: garrison up to 11k, from just 4k a few days back. So he's scrambling to attend to this island.
2. Tabituea: 20k
3. Ocean: 6k
4. Nauru: 8k
5. Kusaie: 20k
6. Ponape: 18k
7. Kwaj: 14k
8. Roi-Namur: 11 units
9. Eniwetok: 15k
10. Truk: 23k
11. Saipan: 18k
12. Pagan: 10k

John is truly energized. This is not a good sign. He wants to give battle, so he's flipping turns fast. If he prevails in the coming contest, then defending forward will pay handsome dividends. If the Allies prevail, he's going to have all kinds of logistical issues on his hands.

The forward elements of the Big Tent armada are more than 25% to target. These TFs are moving slowly to allow the late-departing TFs to catch up. Depending on what happens over the next few days, I have the option of refueling TFs at Midway or even Wake. That would allow some TKs to return home. The downside is it slows everything down. But it would really help with the fuel situation.

The first landing should take place in two weeks or less. I wonder if a great naval battle takes place before then.

During Big Tent, John will have free reign to hit Wake. He ought to do so, because it's a key base. I don't want to lose it, and I'll have to retake it. This time, though, he won't have time to build six forts. The base currently has 2.63 forts with 125 AV 100% prepped, so he'll have to work for it.

Bearded Lady: John sent a DD TF to Maloelap to battle with PT boats and hunt merchants. He sunk two PTs, but one of his DD hit a mine and sank. That was not profitable.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:26:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		In equal and opposite reaction to John's energy, the AAR has suddenly gone quiet. It's Friday night, so you guys might be wooing lovely women or watching a baseball game.

But I think you're conscientiously avoiding any chance of an OpSec issue and waiting to see what happens. Or maybe everybody's tuned in to Lowpe vs. Jocke. "Beer made me do it 2.0!"

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:33:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

In equal and opposite reaction to John's energy, the AAR has suddenly gone quiet. It's Friday night, so you guys might be wooing lovely women or watching a baseball game.

But I think you're conscientiously avoiding any chance of an OpSec issue and waiting to see what happens. Or maybe everybody's tuned in to Lowpe vs. Jocke. "Beer made me do it 2.0!"

OK, you asked for it!

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...so you might say I'm a lumber jack. :)

And you're OK!

BTW:
"One of the signal events of my life took place there about 17 years ago. When my oldest son was 3 or 4, I took him on a bike ride at Chickamauga. As I peddled along, I felt him tap my back (he was in a seat behind me). "Daddy?" he asked. "I always wanted a daddy like you."

When the time comes for an obituary, I'd rather the local paper mention that than any accomplishment or position."

Awesome story! And no better epitaph.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:33:30 AM   
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In equal and opposite reaction to John's energy, the AAR has suddenly gone quiet. It's Friday night, so you guys might be wooing lovely women or watching a baseball game.

But I think you're conscientiously avoiding any chance of an OpSec issue and waiting to see what happens. Or maybe everybody's tuned in to Lowpe vs. Jocke. "Beer made me do it 2.0!"

The forum is holding its breath for both AARs right now! You seem to show that you are antsy by the constant stream of posts!
Waiting is hard and you want to see how it turns out, but doing things right means you can't really flip three turns a day and handle a massive invasion prep at the same time!
I'm pretty confident all will be well. If he suddenly hardens all of your targets you can do what you did in NorPac - change direction and this time invade Honshu! That would be a nice counterpoint to Jocke/Lowpe's game!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:42:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can flip turns now since all the TFs are at see. It's the loading and checking and changing captains and attending to aircraft and pilots and on and on and on that requires the zillion clicks. Now it's just a matter of herding the cattle along the Chisholm Trail.

I'm not seeing any signs of a Just in Time Reinforcements. In fact, quite the opposite. I think John is looking where I had hoped he'd look. I could be wrong. Or I could be right but he could win a naval battle.

Hey, BB, shouldn't you be wooing a lovely lass?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 7:08:46 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 3:26:01 PM   
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I don't check the opposing side, so no chance of HUMINT here.

From what I can see, you are aggressive and deliberate. I wouldn't want you as my opponent. That is about as dangerous as it can get. That's also why I read your post.

Good Hunting!
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 4:47:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Email from John accompanying latest turn, which I'm about to run: "Month is nearly done. Now WHERE did that invasion force disappear to? I have my invasion sniffer on FULL AUTO!"

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 5:52:43 PM   
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Big Tent: A pleasantly uneventful day as the thundering herd lumbers forward. The lead group of TFs, which has grown very large, is 1/3rd of the way to the first target. The TFs are still strong out, but the gap between the head and the tail closed from 18 hexes to 14 hexes today.

There are enemy subs amidst the TFs, but John seemed to get a sighting on only one small SC TF. I don't like sending my carriers right through known sub concentrations, but better to keep them in place, trailing multiple ASW TFs, than send them around the flank where more subs might lurk.

If John is inclined to be focusing on the Marianas and Marcus, then today was another good day of feeding this idea. Sunfish and Flying Fish sank xAKs right in front of Saipan while Gato missed a shot at another nearby. SigInt reports an arty regiment inbound to Saipan. These are favorable signs. I could be making the mistake of interpreting everything in a too favorable light, but I don't think so.

While enemy subs are always a threat, I don't think there's a serious chance of an altercation with enemy LBA, combat ships or carriers until the armada is about 2/3rds of the way to the target. That should be in about six or seven days. The first landing should take place in 13-15 days.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:01:42 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 6:02:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		While John doesn't have good detection on the invasion TFs at the moment, the detection levels on three of his subs tell him plenty.

As long as the Allied TFs are between Midway and Wake, the Bonins, Marcus and the Carolines remain viable targets. This should be the case for another five to seven days.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 7:10:38 PM   
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While John doesn't have good detection on the invasion TFs at the moment, the detection levels on three of his subs tell him plenty.

As long as the Allied TFs are between Midway and Wake, the Bonins, Marcus and the Carolines remain viable targets. This should be the case for another five to seven days.
You don't included the Marianas in the potential targets John has to worry about. I would think they would be his biggest worry.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 8:43:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

While John doesn't have good detection on the invasion TFs at the moment, the detection levels on three of his subs tell him plenty.

As long as the Allied TFs are between Midway and Wake, the Bonins, Marcus and the Carolines remain viable targets. This should be the case for another five to seven days.
You don't included the Marianas in the potential targets John has to worry about. I would think they would be his biggest worry.



Idunno. IMO, the Marianas are only useful for the Allies because:

1) The VP multipliers are high
2) Denying Japan the use of them

Flying extended range B-29 missions against Japan is not all that attractive. Lots of losses for minimal return.

They are of course also useful as stepping stones, but that applies to any island/island group.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/18/2016 9:34:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oops, my bad. Actually, I did mean the Marianas. The Allied sub activity and the probing distant recon has been in the Marianas. John should be most worried about them and Marcus foremost, with the Carolines and the Bonins next in order.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 2:22:25 AM   
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Big Tent: The herd continues forward. It's now 33 hexes out of Pearl and about 50 hexes from the first target. No sign of enemy detection today, though two IJN subs were detected, so John has that to chew over.

A YMS northwest of Midway reports detection, probably by navsearch from Marcus. Recon from Wake targeted Tinian, which has 19k troops and 100+ aircraft.

SigInt reports 56th Div. at Ponape. No troublesome reports.

Many IJN subs off the Canadian coast now. Perhaps John sent these to sniff out any move in NoPac. Any sub that's not in CenPac right now is a good sub.

If the Allies do have to divert to the secondary target (Eniwetok), I think Death Star might end up between KB and the island. It'll be hard for John to configure a strong defense, at least to the opening landing. The assault wave consists of an Army RCT 100% prepped and two thirds of 1st Marine Div. 55% prepped. But the Marines have low experience and I forgot to swap out bad commanders. So that campaign will have to be won by bombing and bombardment, like Wake 2.0.



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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 4:27:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you're driving for where I think you're driving... interesting. Trying to get John to concentrate his stuff on the Marianas, which is pretty close (but probably a little bit out of range) to your targets is a little gutsy, depending on what route you take through the ocean. Then again, if his LBA sorties alone against your CV-based CAP, that's a lot of "free" VPs for downed planes. Here's hoping John keeps flipping turns quickly so we can read the action .

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 11:06:44 AM   
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Big Tent: Japanese naval search picks up the herd as it rumbles west towards Wake Island. From now on, John will know the exact location of the invasion armada, though hopefully he won't guess or suspect the destination for four to six more turns.

John has well configured his subs, which are concentrated on the direct line leading to Wake. No unpleasant encounters today, fortunately, and DE Bedas scored "heavy damage" on I-160.

The first destination is Wake, where some TFs will replenish fuel (and a few, like Bedas, ASW weapons).

The herd made five more hexes today, with the front and tail ends separated by 12 hexes. This will close in a few days while the replenishment and final preparations take place at and near Wake. The front is 38 hexes from Pearl and about 45 from the first beach.

No sign of KB or major concentrations of combat ships (I wouldn't expect such).

SigInt and recon continue to support the notion that the Allies have achieved strategic surprise, if I'm using the term correctly. I don't think John knows the ultimate target. He knows where the armada is and will now follow it carefully, thus preventing operational surprise.

SigInt reports 2nd CDU gun unit at Kavieng; Iwo goes to level one airfield. Recon shows that a dot hex east of Saipan is undefended and still 25k troops (probably including 6th Div.) at Lunga, while John continues the flurry of activity to reinforce Marcus. These and previous reports noted ove the past few days suggest that John is still concentrated heavily forward (Marshalls, Carolines, Solomons, Guadalanal, Tabituea, New Georgia) while working frantically to attend to the Marianas (and perhaps the Bonins).

Wake Island forts go to level three today. If Big Tent carries on to the beaches, Wake will become isolated for a time and will have to stand on its own. I expect strong bombardments and perhaps a counterinvasion.

PBYs move forward to Rongalap today (a dot hex between Allied Wotje and Japanese Eniwetok). This expands the area under surveillance by five hexes.

Lion Tamer: Small amphibious TFs are moving on vacant islands to both sides of New Caledonia. Luganville and Ndeni have modest Japanese garrisons while Lunga is armed to the teeth. These await the outcome of Big Tent. If it succeeds, the flank has been turned on these bases and John will have to scramble to retrieve the garrisons.

NoPac: An IJN sub damages an xAK near Prince Rupert. Lots of subs off the Canadian coast and in NoPac. John will probably release them for duty elsewhere soon, barring the slim chance he has offensive plans up here.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 2:05:26 PM   
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If you're driving for where I think you're driving... interesting. Trying to get John to concentrate his stuff on the Marianas, which is pretty close (but probably a little bit out of range) to your targets is a little gutsy, depending on what route you take through the ocean. Then again, if his LBA sorties alone against your CV-based CAP, that's a lot of "free" VPs for downed planes. Here's hoping John keeps flipping turns quickly so we can read the action .


I've previously quoted the Moose as saying words to this effect: "There comes a time when the Allies are better off concentrating forces and moving with speed rather than dispersing forces through diversion and slowing down with feinting."

I agree with his sentiments. I could have deployed a mock TF to vector NW from Midway to threaten Hokkaido or to move W to threaten Marcus, etc. But now is not the time for feinting - I'm not going to have operational surprise, but I don't need it if I've prepared correctly and interpreted the map correctly.

But now is the time for strategic misdirection. That's always important in the game.

In this case, I gave a lot of thought to doing things that might lead John to conclude that the Marianas or Bonins were the most likely target (with a nod to the Solomons). This was done by suddently implementing recon where there had been none before, by concentrating subs, by establishing a line of direction (moving on Wake in CenPac, moving on New Caledonia in SoPac) and now suddenly and radically diverting from those vectors and aiming for what SigInt and other intel (especially lack of base building) suggest is a soft underbelly.

I could be wrong about these things. Or I could suffer a nasty defeat en route so that my snazzy plan is stillborn. But I think I'm right.

The first offensive op takes place tomorrow. This will be a surprise attack mainly intended to keep John thinking along these "preferred lines." Something else will happen tomorrow that I won't reveal for about a week. Just keep this in mind: Eldorado.



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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 2:33:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I must say I'm surprised by how fast you are able to put together offensives (Aleutians, Marshals, Wake). I shouldn't be. You think like the allies, you are planing offensives a year ahead of time. Even now you are planning 1945. I say all this because John thinks like the Japanese. Smash, grab, decisive battle. I expect John is a bit surprised by how fast you have put together what looks like a HUGE offensive supported by pretty much all the American forces on land, sea and air. I'm not sure John will be prepared to respond to this in a coherent manner, meaning, he was not waiting nor expecting this. Doesn't mean he won't respond and respond well, but I don't think you will blunder into a prepared response. Your said your fleet would be exposed to LBA for about a 5 day period. He has interior lines so I expect you will be OK for 2 or 3 days while he prepares his LBA assets to hit you with concentrated force. He won't attack piecemeal. As for his fleet? I expect a less than 50% chance of a fleet action. Again. he will be surprised at how fast so large a force came together.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 2:35:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those are encouraging words, John. I hope it's just as you say.

I think John will have a five-day window for his best opportunity to strike. After that, I think I'll hold the upper hand. I'll sweat those five days. That will take place in about a week.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 3:13:03 PM   
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In equal and opposite reaction to John's energy, the AAR has suddenly gone quiet. It's Friday night, so you guys might be wooing lovely women or watching a baseball game.

But I think you're conscientiously avoiding any chance of an OpSec issue and waiting to see what happens. Or maybe everybody's tuned in to Lowpe vs. Jocke. "Beer made me do it 2.0!"


Nah, I just had to wash my hair..

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 3:22:19 PM   
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If you're driving for where I think you're driving... interesting. Trying to get John to concentrate his stuff on the Marianas, which is pretty close (but probably a little bit out of range) to your targets is a little gutsy, depending on what route you take through the ocean. Then again, if his LBA sorties alone against your CV-based CAP, that's a lot of "free" VPs for downed planes. Here's hoping John keeps flipping turns quickly so we can read the action .


I've previously quoted the Moose as saying words to this effect: "There comes a time when the Allies are better off concentrating forces and moving with speed rather than dispersing forces through diversion and slowing down with feinting."

I agree with his sentiments. I could have deployed a mock TF to vector NW from Midway to threaten Hokkaido or to move W to threaten Marcus, etc. But now is not the time for feinting - I'm not going to have operational surprise, but I don't need it if I've prepared correctly and interpreted the map correctly.

But now is the time for strategic misdirection. That's always important in the game.

In this case, I gave a lot of thought to doing things that might lead John to conclude that the Marianas or Bonins were the most likely target (with a nod to the Solomons). This was done by suddently implementing recon where there had been none before, by concentrating subs, by establishing a line of direction (moving on Wake in CenPac, moving on New Caledonia in SoPac) and now suddenly and radically diverting from those vectors and aiming for what SigInt and other intel (especially lack of base building) suggest is a soft underbelly.

I could be wrong about these things. Or I could suffer a nasty defeat en route so that my snazzy plan is stillborn. But I think I'm right.

The first offensive op takes place tomorrow. This will be a surprise attack mainly intended to keep John thinking along these "preferred lines." Something else will happen tomorrow that I won't reveal for about a week. Just keep this in mind: Eldorado.




There just comes a point where as the Allies you show your hand and dare the enemy to fight you. I think you are probably at this point. His KB and surface force is still strong and a threat, but I would want a major slugging match. Even trading ships will pretty much assure you unimpeded control of the seas for all future rounds.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 4:07:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		CR - it seems that you've given enough hints. I made a list of what I think are the five major targets. Good luck.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 5:28:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Comment in John's email with latest turn: "I had written on my AAR that I needed at least until November 1st for some time to reorganize. Looks like I got barely that!"

This is his way of saying, "Well, you gave me just enough time to configure my defenses. Thank you."

I'm sure it's true that he's much better than he was prepared immediately after the battle.

So am I. Hornet, Enterprise, Princeton, Bunker Hill, Monterrey, and South Dakota are back in action.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 7:04:37 PM   
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If you're driving for where I think you're driving... interesting. Trying to get John to concentrate his stuff on the Marianas, which is pretty close (but probably a little bit out of range) to your targets is a little gutsy, depending on what route you take through the ocean. Then again, if his LBA sorties alone against your CV-based CAP, that's a lot of "free" VPs for downed planes. Here's hoping John keeps flipping turns quickly so we can read the action .


I've previously quoted the Moose as saying words to this effect: "There comes a time when the Allies are better off concentrating forces and moving with speed rather than dispersing forces through diversion and slowing down with feinting."

I agree with his sentiments. I could have deployed a mock TF to vector NW from Midway to threaten Hokkaido or to move W to threaten Marcus, etc. But now is not the time for feinting - I'm not going to have operational surprise, but I don't need it if I've prepared correctly and interpreted the map correctly.

But now is the time for strategic misdirection. That's always important in the game.

In this case, I gave a lot of thought to doing things that might lead John to conclude that the Marianas or Bonins were the most likely target (with a nod to the Solomons). This was done by suddently implementing recon where there had been none before, by concentrating subs, by establishing a line of direction (moving on Wake in CenPac, moving on New Caledonia in SoPac) and now suddenly and radically diverting from those vectors and aiming for what SigInt and other intel (especially lack of base building) suggest is a soft underbelly.

I could be wrong about these things. Or I could suffer a nasty defeat en route so that my snazzy plan is stillborn. But I think I'm right.

The first offensive op takes place tomorrow. This will be a surprise attack mainly intended to keep John thinking along these "preferred lines." Something else will happen tomorrow that I won't reveal for about a week. Just keep this in mind: Eldorado.




There just comes a point where as the Allies you show your hand and dare the enemy to fight you. I think you are probably at this point. His KB and surface force is still strong and a threat, but I would want a major slugging match. Even trading ships will pretty much assure you unimpeded control of the seas for all future rounds.

"I propose to fight it out on this line, if it takes all summer."

Trading ships would be OK for the Allies, but they can't afford to lose any more APAs with troops still on them. Subs and LBA strikes always have a die roll factor. Tense times ....




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 7:21:35 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 7:47:16 PM   
Canoerebel


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Big Tent: The herd thunders through submarine-infested waters, fortunately without suffering any mishaps. An IJN sub took a shot at AE Harpoon but missed. I only have two AE in the armada (and three AKE), so these are particularly precious.

Herring didn't miss though. She put a torp into an AO near Rota (no sinking sounds heard). The primary benefit here is that it is consistent with recent Allied sub activity and kills in this region. Here's hoping John is still thinking "Marianas."

The opening shots were fired today as elements of 50th Indian Paratroops took Bikini Atoll by para-assault. Transports will bring in supply and some aviation support. This base may be flying PBYs the day after tomorrow. Again, the effort is to try to keep John thinking "Marianas, Marshalls, Solomons, Bonins" rather than "the real target."

Eldorado - a nifty little special ops action - also took place today. I won't reveal it for about a week.

The herd is 43 hexes out of Pearl and 40 from the first target. (Many of you now have a good idea of the general location of the Big Tent targets. I noted that one of you has written down his guess as to the five major targets. I think Forumites might guess 3 of the 5, but I doubt anybody would conceivably get all 5 of them.)

John has lots going on today, so I think the next turn might not come until this evening or tonight.

Happy Father's Day to all you gents that are fathers. To those of you who aren't, Happy Father's Day to your fathers. :)




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 7:53:36 PM   
Capt. Harlock


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quote:

"I propose to fight it out on this line, if it takes all summer."


Of course, it actually took eleven months -- but come to think of it, winning the game in September/October 1944 would be no mean feat!

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Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn't every war fought between men, between brothers?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/19/2016 7:54:46 PM   
Lokasenna


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Status: offline 		You've lost too many, and you've lost only 5 (1 or 2 of which withdraw anyway)?! Sheesh.

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