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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 6:22:35 PM

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7/16/44

Battle of Bataan: A weirdly skewed adjusted AV situation at Bataan today, but the attack drops forts to 1 and destroys more enemy squads.

My units did not suffer badly, but I'll rest them a day. The two big infantry divisions will be ready the day after tomorrow. The two weaker ones may need a longer break.

Any thoughts how John's adjusted AV zoomed up so dramatically?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 6:35:21 PM

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Centerline 20cm & F 20cm that actually hit.

20cm? That's a damned big gun for an airplane!!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 6:47:37 PM

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Centerline 20cm & F 20cm that actually hit.

20cm? That's a damned big gun for an airplane!!

I saw that after I put it in...and was going to edit it out, but forgot. Glad someone is paying attention!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 6:54:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

7/16/44

Battle of Bataan: A weirdly skewed adjusted AV situation at Bataan today, but the attack drops forts to 1 and destroys more enemy squads.

My units did not suffer badly, but I'll rest them a day. The two big infantry divisions will be ready the day after tomorrow. The two weaker ones may need a longer break.

Any thoughts how John's adjusted AV zoomed up so dramatically?

Perhaps a unit was in reserve previously? And now it's not? Hard to tell without the list of his units. But, AFAIK with how reserve works, because your previous assault only had a 1:1 it did not trigger the reserves (which IIRC is if attacker would achieve odds to take the base/hex). But if your second attack did trigger those odds... unit in reserve pops out and fights.

It's also possible he just got some very good rolls on July 16, and some very poor ones on July 14.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 7:48:48 PM

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I don't think there's any real substance - any real "oomph" - behind the greatly increased Japanese adjusted defense. If there was, I would think the Allied would've gotten a bloody nose. So despite the increase, I'm seeing a fatigued enemy low on supply with declining forts, but an enemy that still has a bit of fight left.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 8:25:30 PM

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Thailand: 4EB clobber enemy ground units at Ayuthia today, in preparation for the cross-river assault that will take place tomorrow or the day after.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 8:41:55 PM

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Fun House: The fleet disbands at Legaspi and gives major attention to aircraft upgrades, replenishment, etc.

Bataan puzzled me a bit, but progress was made.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 8:48:26 PM

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No CD guns at Bataan to deny you access to Manila until you've taken Bataan? Tsk, tsk.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 8:52:12 PM

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There's a CD unit there, "dry firing" each time a ship passes. IE, I get a message that the guns are firing but that no damage is being done. So either all the guns are disable or they have no supply.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 9:04:55 PM

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There's a CD unit there, "dry firing" each time a ship passes. IE, I get a message that the guns are firing but that no damage is being done. So either all the guns are disable or they have no supply.

you have the combat reports so you can tell if there is any CD or DP guns there.

Also, some straights seem to have mystery firing all the time...always happens to me at Merak for example.

Dice roll or units in reserve no pursuit mode are the likely explanation.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 9:56:45 PM

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Another little mysterious result from this turn:

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/4/2017 9:59:17 PM

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Yep, pretty sure you got the right of it. Happens to me, where I can't track down the A2A losses and it always seems to happen with LRCAP going on only.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 3:44:08 AM

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With respect to Bataan, does weather effect adjusted AV? Perhaps you were attacking during a roaring thunderstorm with heavy fog and tornadoes or something.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 7:02:26 AM

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You should be able to track odd losses in the Operations report.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 11:04:33 AM

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I don't think there's any real substance - any real "oomph" - behind the greatly increased Japanese adjusted defense. If there was, I would think the Allied would've gotten a bloody nose. So despite the increase, I'm seeing a fatigued enemy low on supply with declining forts, but an enemy that still has a bit of fight left.

It appears doubly strange in that he got the fort bonus on the 14th when his adjusted AV was low but didn't get it on the 16th when his adjusted AV went high.
Go figure?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 1:35:44 PM

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You do get neat messages in the operations reports, but it is never the full story...here are some recent ones for me. These messages came after it's sweep mission and during the landing phase.

Damaged Ki-43-Ic Oscar from 1st Sentai does not return, pilot reported killed
2LT Tsukamoto F. of 1st Sentai is credited with kill number 3
Damaged Ki-43-Ic Oscar from 1st Sentai shot down on way home

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 1:37:16 PM

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I don't think there's any real substance - any real "oomph" - behind the greatly increased Japanese adjusted defense. If there was, I would think the Allied would've gotten a bloody nose. So despite the increase, I'm seeing a fatigued enemy low on supply with declining forts, but an enemy that still has a bit of fight left.

It appears doubly strange in that he got the fort bonus on the 14th when his adjusted AV was low but didn't get it on the 16th when his adjusted AV went high.
Go figure?

Forts were one less...

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 3:34:31 PM

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Thailand: Both sides are on fumes here, though the Allies are much stronger in comparison. Tomorrow's attack at Ayuthia should destroy a lot of very weak enemy units, judging by the impact of heavy 4EB results there today.

I don't know yet if John is planning to make a strong stand in Indochina or if he instead plans a gradual withdrawal up the coast into China. That makes sense, simply because the Allied position in and north of Luzon threatens to cut off Indochina.

The Allied SEAC army will move east to attend to Indochina in the near- and medium-terms.

The Allies are also about to outrun the radius of heavy bombers from big airfields with good supply. In the short- and medium-terms, I'll move a lot of heavy bombers and good fighters over to Luzon for the pending Peep Show campaign.

Eventually, I'll have to turn my attention to Malaya and Singapore, but I'll poor everything into Peep Show for now, with a nod to Indochina from the ground troops already committed to that region.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 3:52:23 PM

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DEI: Mini KB is heading north in the Makassar Strait. I have a decision to make.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 4:32:29 PM

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Fun House: Laoag will fall to the Allies tomorrow, when there will also be another key attack at Bataan.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 5:18:16 PM

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Can you afford a flank speed move against the mini - enhanced kb?

I am guessing you could take close to 2000 victory points, smash a pain in your rear, and not take anything away from your next operation.

You and I both know exactly where the mini kb is going.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 6:01:27 PM

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I think there's a stronger argument not to roll the dice, hoping for a jackpot but more likely using up a lot of fuel and accumulating wear and tear.

There is the counter argument that this is the right spot for rolling those dice, but many of my fleet carriers have been at sea, non stop, for three quarters of a year. I'm whipping my mule around the barnyard, not impressing anyone with it's speed or agility, but working it hard, perhaps too hard, but getting the plowing done and the crop in the ground.

Or so I think.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 6:09:28 PM

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I didn't count hexes, is it even doable?

The CV's are in good enough shape to do it....I think. If you stood down the planes, they may really all be in maint mode though.

This would be a surprise move and out of character for you no doubt, I think the engagement on your terms not his. Seeing how John shows his cards routinely, you will no doubt have other opportunities, but will you have the gap in operations that you have now?

1 flank speed run, 1 cleanup day, 3 days back.

John will never feel safe ever again 25 hexes around the deathstar.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 6:10:34 PM

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I have no idea how John's carriers must look, but they've been away from home for an awfully long time now, haven't they?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 6:41:12 PM

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I'm not sure about John's carriers. I think they've been at sea a long time, but there've been long gaps where I wasn't sure where they were. For all I know, they were resting and upgrading in Singers or the Home Islands.

Some of my carriers are due for 10/43 upgrades, others for 1/44. I don't know if or when I'll ever have a chance to upgrade. The needs at the front have been too pressing, and until Manila the closest port for upgrades were Townsville (for some) and Sydney (for others). On this score, I get a 20% Administration and 60% Aggression rating. It's hard to get yard time when the fleet penetrates 2,000 miles into enemy waters.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 8:56:11 PM

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For a fleet that has ben at sea for some time your carriers look almost pristine.

I have had mine operating in SoPac for 2 months without a break in mid '43 and both my carriers and escorts are way more beat up than that.

Many are carrying sys damage in the teens.

Sure you might ring up some engine damage making the high speed run but with a level 9 port at Manila I don't see that being a major impediment to ongoing operations.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 9:06:51 PM

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IMVHO, at some point you have to take out one of these sections of KB, but I would make sure everything is in place to guard the fort while DS is away.

As you often comment, you are playing JIII, not the japanese empire, and are playing to his weaknesses.
JIII must also consider he is playing CR, not Halsey, and that CR would never take on KB.

It would be better to fight now, rather than in the middle of an Invasion (YOur Divisions can wait)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 9:49:35 PM

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It is next to impossible to gain a fight if the enemy wishes to avoid one. There's no way John wants to chance Mini KB against Death Star, so the only way a carrier battle happens is if he makes a colossal blunder. That's unlikely - he's too aware of what's going on and what the possibilities are. I bet he's counting hexes too.

However, I have refueled all my combat ships...on the off-chance that Mini KB keeps coming.

I think my carriers are pristine because nearly all movement has been two hexes or three or five at a time. Very seldom did the carriers move more than six hexes in a turn. That has to be the reason for the negligible wear and tear.

Right now, my BBs, CLs, and DDs are topped off with fuel. My carriers and CAs are probably at about 75%. So they're good to go. I have 120k fuel remaining on tankers and oilers in the PI. I have 105k in the DEI. I have 55k at Miri, increasing at about 2k per day. Peep Show will involve well over a thousand ships. It won't be going far, so the fuel stores are probably sufficient into the medium term.

At the far end of a 5,000-mile LOC, I can't afford to expend fuel on an iffy mission that John will do everything he can to avoid...unless I feel strongly about the possibilities.

He probably wants all his carriers to launch a full KB attack combined with massed LBA in the Formosa region. He'll get what he wants, but probably not until the Allied air force has worked over Formosa's airfields, possibly with an assist from bombardment TFs that can replenish at Manila. This is going to be a mighty battle.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 10:32:31 PM

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The war will be won first on land, and then the air. You are correct to stay home and attend to your knitting. If he offers, fight, If he doesn't, move on forward.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 5/5/2017 10:48:09 PM

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It is next to impossible to gain a fight if the enemy wishes to avoid one.

Except when you step out of your comfort zone and do the unexpected.

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