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Brilliant Game... - 12/8/2012 5:15:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		What an absolutely brilliant game. I bought it a couple of weeks ago after long hesitation and I am sorry I waited. UoC has that perfect blend of simplicity and depth that I call elegance. It really is an underappreciated little masterpiece. Well done, you guys! I'm really looking forward to your next product. What put me off from buying it for a long while, frankly, were the unit counters -- the bobbleheads just didn't work for me. I bought the game only after discovering that counter mods were available, but to tell you the truth I haven't bothered to install them.

Anyway, thanks for a great product!

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 4/12/2013 2:05:16 AM   
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What an absolutely brilliant game. I bought it a couple of weeks ago after long hesitation and I am sorry I waited. UoC has that perfect blend of simplicity and depth that I call elegance. It really is an underappreciated little masterpiece. Well done, you guys! I'm really looking forward to your next product. What put me off from buying it for a long while, frankly, were the unit counters -- the bobbleheads just didn't work for me. I bought the game only after discovering that counter mods were available, but to tell you the truth I haven't bothered to install them.

Anyway, thanks for a great product!

Tim



I Totally agree!
What a great find. Just the type of game I was looking for.
Looking foward to more DLC and maybe the western front in your next release.
Great work

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/12/2013 3:04:30 AM   
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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/15/2013 12:26:55 AM   
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What an absolutely brilliant game. I bought it a couple of weeks ago after long hesitation and I am sorry I waited. UoC has that perfect blend of simplicity and depth that I call elegance ...


I've heard so much about this game, but what other game does it compare to?

Also, I couldn't find the computer requirements on the product page.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/15/2013 1:24:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TJD

What an absolutely brilliant game. I bought it a couple of weeks ago after long hesitation and I am sorry I waited. UoC has that perfect blend of simplicity and depth that I call elegance ...


I've heard so much about this game, but what other game does it compare to?

Also, I couldn't find the computer requirements on the product page.


PC System Requirements
Minimum:

OS:Windows XP
Processor:1.6 GHz
Memory:1 GB RAM
Hard Drive:150 MB HD space
Recommended:

Processor:2.0 GHz
Memory:2 GB RAM

Mac System Requirements
Minimum:

OS:10.6
Processor:1.6 GHz
Memory:1 GB RAM
Hard Drive:150 MB HD space
Recommended:

Processor:2.0 GHz
Memory:2 GB RAM

Linux System Requirements
Processor:1.6 GHz
Memory:1 GB RAM
Hard Drive:150 MB HD space

The game is worth every cent.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/15/2013 10:40:04 PM   
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... The game is worth every cent.


Thanks Trooper, but can anyone compare this title to another popular title?

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/18/2013 12:52:43 AM   
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... The game is worth every cent.


Thanks Trooper, but can anyone compare this title to another popular title?


IMHO this title is in a class of it's own.
The game play, graphics, music all blend together to form a highly playable game.
It's worth the money. That's my opinion....
Other's might disagree.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 5/18/2013 1:44:20 AM   
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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/18/2013 4:12:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, i bought the addon, too.

And i must say: what a brilliant game! A perfect UI, nice Art, challenging gameplay, the music fits,...

I definitely can recommend it!

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/18/2013 5:05:20 PM   
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Well, i bought the addon, too.

And i must say: what a brilliant game! A perfect UI, nice Art, challenging gameplay, the music fits,...

I definitely can recommend it!



Yep and the DLC for $9 ya cant go wrong.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/18/2013 5:48:26 PM   
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there is a demo of UoC available. So you could get an impression first hand:

http://unityofcommand.net/demo/


Other than that, I can only backup all the praise UoC gets in the comments above.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 4:23:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I am going to purchase this right now. hafer has it right. I didn't care for the puzzle like scenarios as some of them were in the first release. Passed on Red Turn, but this does look very good.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 5:20:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you pick it up post your impressions, i have the first 2 and haven't played red turn yet but the puzzle nature turned me off playing the first one.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 5:52:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Will do. Think ill wait to purchase until the morning though as Im ready for bed.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 7:05:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have played about half of Black Turn, and didn't get Red Turn. IMO, it's more of the same as the original. It's a very professional and well made game and can be fun to play, but IMO it's held back by the very strict victory conditions. Once you've found the 'correct' strategy it just comes down to replaying until you get lucky with the rolls. The weather effects which could have been cool if they had impacted the strategy, are in practice just a forced restart of the scenario if they affect you.
I hope they use this game as a basis for something played over a longer time period.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 8:01:23 AM   
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I have played about half of Black Turn, and didn't get Red Turn. IMO, it's more of the same as the original. It's a very professional and well made game and can be fun to play, but IMO it's held back by the very strict victory conditions. Once you've found the 'correct' strategy it just comes down to replaying until you get lucky with the rolls. The weather effects which could have been cool if they had impacted the strategy, are in practice just a forced restart of the scenario if they affect you.
I hope they use this game as a basis for something played over a longer time period.



That is what I was afraid of. I wish they could do something to alleviate that because the UI is one of the best Ive seen in a long long time. Thank you for your insight. A sleepless full moon night here, I may have to wait to purchase.

Edit: I just realized the game was only $9 so I went ahead and purchased. Not much of a gamble really.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 9:29:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's damned if you do, damned if you don't for me when creating scenarios:

-I can make a scenario fairly short, with strict (but historical) victory conditions. Some people will like the challenge, others will be disappointed because they feel it plays like a puzzle.
-I can make a scenario longer, where every additional turns gives the player sort of an exponential advantage over the AI, as the AI has a fixed historical number of units and after the opening turns many of them will be gone or in a location where they can't be of much help. The scenario will play a bit less like a puzzle due to the player having more units and more options, but it will also be much more difficult to balance.

It's easy to forget that UoC isn't a game like Panzer Corps where units can magically appear all the time, as UoC uses a mostly historical OOB.

Most of the operations covered in Black Turn were historically also more difficult at the start than near the end. The Soviets in 1941, like the Germans in 1944-1945, had few immediately available operational reserves after the initial disasters. 4-5 fresh Rifle divisions won't stop a Panzer Group.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 10:05:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's my opinion of what could be improved without altering the basis of the game:
- Just have 'take all objectives in x turns' even as brilliant victory. It would allow for alternative strategies and more replay value.
- Make options for predetermined weather or no weather. Currently there is usually no point in continuing if you get affected by it.


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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 10:29:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		A question; I just finished my first battle. Didn't take Pskov until the 9th turn. I replayed the some of the battle but then advanced it back to the end of the replay. How do I advance now? The Resume Play button is greyed out and I'm not sure how to advance my campaign.

Thanks.

Edit: Never mind, I got it.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 11:43:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Predetermined weather would make for an even bigger puzzle, as you would know when and where a certain mud patch would hit, and would place your units accordingly. In my opinion, games with programmed weather are less challenging than those without it.

Take all objectives on turn X like in PG/Panzer Corps would mean the game is no longer historical in terms of when certain objectives were actually captured and encouraging the player to try to do better than - or perform as well as their historical counterparts, just like PG and Panzer Corps. It would give the player an advantage, as the AI would spread out its forces and you would be under little pressure to capture initial objectives that are somewhat removed from the ideal path to the main objective(s). Turn limits for objectives give a scenario a more historical "flow" compared to PG/Panzer Corps-style objectives. Objectives without turn limits are too close to being generic in my opinion.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 1:20:44 PM   
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UoC has that perfect blend of simplicity and depth that I call elegance.


+1

This game compliments other Russian Front games that may be more detailed, more realistic, more accurate, etc. But this is fast & fun to play, and we need that too.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/19/2013 1:27:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I play as if I would not get affected by weather, because if I am I have to restart anyway. So for me it's currently like playing with predetermined weather, with random restarts added. I'm not saying you should throw out the random weather, but add an option for predetermined and none. If the weather had an impact on the strategy I would be all for random weather.

Regarding victory conditions, I would prefer more strategic options rather than being forced through a historical progression. You could always have a 'Historical Victory' which gave more points like today, but it should not be required to continue the campaign IMO.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/20/2013 1:19:00 PM   
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Personally, while I found the original UC a great little game, both Red Turn and, so far, Black Turn, have been *far* too easy. I sailed through Red Turn almost without having to replay a single map, while with the original game it must have taken 10 tries to win the Stalingrad map alone. So I have not been impressed with the expansions.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/20/2013 3:09:20 PM   
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What I'd like in a scenario is a balanced force battle without the time constraints where only the proper attacks leave you with enough forces to take the objectives. Maybe some of the later battles are that way, I don't know.

Overall, I like the game quite a bit and it's fast paced, easy to pick up nature. Very good price for some hours of quick fun. It is puzzle like at this point for me so that is a downside, but maybe that is just the nature of the game. It does however adequately occupy a space in my collection. A nice diversion from the scratch your head 1 hour turn monsters.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/20/2013 3:50:08 PM   
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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/21/2013 6:45:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		The sides in the original were more evenly matched than in Red Turn or Black Turn, and I balanced the scenarios in a different way than Tomislav as well.

Winning itself is often not very hard, but winning without buying specialist steps or units and getting a BV can be tricky.

Like Treale said, it isn't meant to be a (hardcore) serious historical simulation, it's a casual wargame with a mostly historical OOB.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/26/2013 7:12:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bigus

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ORIGINAL: Joe D.


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ORIGINAL: RangerX3X

... The game is worth every cent.


Thanks Trooper, but can anyone compare this title to another popular title?


IMHO this title is in a class of it's own.
The game play, graphics, music all blend together to form a highly playable game.
It's worth the money. That's my opinion....
Other's might disagree.



I agree. Outstanding game with tons of potential.

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RE: Brilliant Game... - 12/26/2013 7:16:22 AM   
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The sides in the original were more evenly matched than in Red Turn or Black Turn, and I balanced the scenarios in a different way than Tomislav as well.

Winning itself is often not very hard, but winning without buying specialist steps or units and getting a BV can be tricky.

Like Treale said, it isn't meant to be a (hardcore) serious historical simulation, it's a casual wargame with a mostly historical OOB.



You know what Comrade P, what is a historical simulation? I'd say this game captures the essence of the eastern front with the key elements of railroad logistics, exploiting gaps and forming pockets. More complexity is not always the answer. Thank you for your efforts into this game. Now how about UoC as a grand strategy game. It would be perfect.

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