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What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 7:40:55 AM

JeffroK

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Running a Blitzkrieg through Southern Honshu!
13385 to 1.

Ground combat at Shimonoseki (104,57)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 254326 troops, 4263 guns, 6734 vehicles, Assault Value = 8770

Defending force 7021 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Allied adjusted assault: 13385

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 13385 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Shimonoseki !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
J2M5 Jack: 1 destroyed
S1A1 Denko: 24 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed
M6A1 Seiran: 1 destroyed
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed
A7M3-J Sam: 2 destroyed
G4M2a Betty: 1 destroyed
C6N1-S Myrt: 7 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 58 destroyed
Ki-57-II Topsy: 15 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), op mode(-), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
7091 casualties reported
Squads: 301 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 460 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 62 (61 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Allied ground losses:
441 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled

Assaulting units:
I Aus Corps Engineer Battalion
7th Infantry Division
31st Armoured Division
31st Infantry Division
96th Infantry Division
13th Armored Division
7th Australian Division
3rd Marine Division
2/7th Armoured Regiment
19th Motorised Division
763rd Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Division
1st Marine Division
255th Indian Tank Brigade
37th Infantry Division
93rd Infantry Division
10th Indian Division
V Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
5th Marine Division
4th Marine Division
24th Infantry Division
2/9th Armoured Regiment
9th Australian Division
131st Combat Engineer Regiment
8th Indian Division
25th Indian Division
2nd Medium Regiment
XI Corps Artillery
10th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
9th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
XIII Corps Arty
V US Amphib Corps
V US Corps Arty
X Corps Artillery
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
I Corps Artillery
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
11th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
I Australian Corps
7th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
6th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
24th Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
206th Division
Shimonoseki Fortress

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 10:38:22 AM

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A bit overkill?

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 11:43:23 AM

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A bit overkill?

Literally: 7021 Japanese troops suffered 7091 casualties . . .

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 12:18:40 PM

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If you're blitzing why don't you have 90% of the attacking force set to pursue (which would have dramatically dropped the adjusted AV) and why bother shock attacking?

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 1:20:28 PM

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If you're blitzing why don't you have 90% of the attacking force set to pursue (which would have dramatically dropped the adjusted AV) and why bother shock attacking?

Killjoy . . .

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 1:21:06 PM

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A bit overkill?

No. Overkill would be adding the entire Red Army to the stack.

(Payback's a MF, Japan!)

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 3:36:31 PM

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is this against the AI?

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 3:39:53 PM

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There is no such thing as overkill.

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 3:43:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

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A bit overkill?

Literally: 7021 Japanese troops suffered 7091 casualties . . .

Some were wounded twice?

"Sir we counted 7021 bodies after our annihilation of the enemy!"
"Son, we fought too hard for there to have only been 7021 enemy soldiers. There had to be at least 7091, and that is how we will report it."

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 4:27:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: rockmedic109

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ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

A bit overkill?

Literally: 7021 Japanese troops suffered 7091 casualties . . .

Some were wounded twice?

"Sir we counted 7021 bodies after our annihilation of the enemy!"
"Son, we fought too hard for there to have only been 7021 enemy soldiers. There had to be at least 7091, and that is how we will report it."

That is how I report fishing stories that are too embarrassing to report to my two brothers..

If I don't wanna sound like a p&&#y after catching only 2-3 fish at the county lake, I inform them I caught around a dozen...

I see the logic there. Well done.

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 9:41:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

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A bit overkill?

Literally: 7021 Japanese troops suffered 7091 casualties . . .

I think it is because the Allied superiority was so great, that a few of the Japs were killed twice before they hit the ground.

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/12/2013 10:54:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

quote:

ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

A bit overkill?

Literally: 7021 Japanese troops suffered 7091 casualties . . .

I think it is because the Allied superiority was so great, that a few of the Japs were killed twice before they hit the ground.

+1

Best explanation since the magic bullet.

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/13/2013 2:18:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: Itdepends

If you're blitzing why don't you have 90% of the attacking force set to pursue (which would have dramatically dropped the adjusted AV) and why bother shock attacking?

The attack was across the Shiminoseki Straights so an auto shock attack.

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/13/2013 2:19:17 AM

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is this against the AI?

Why, am I going to get some sermon about playing PBEM???

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RE: What are the highest Combat odds??? - 3/13/2013 2:26:50 AM

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The lead to the attack in the DOWNFALL scenario was having cleaned out Kyushu against some large IJA stacks I got about 2/3rds of my force and attacked across the straits.

I have now split them into a British Commonwealth force along the North coast and the USA/USMC along the South and have moved past Hiroshima. Both moving in MOVE mode until they hit something too big to clear out on the run. I also try to kill units rather than push them back and have to fight them again. (Hokkaido is almost cleared, here the AI even counterattacked and pushed back a division which got ahead of itself)

I havent peeked, but I think the empire is very low on supply as air attacks are down to 4-6 sorties per mission. (Maybe killing 20,000 aircraft has helped)

For those AI players seeking a challange against the IJA DOWNFALL is very exciting, you can lose out against the massed kamikaze if you get lazy, and the first 3 mths can be on a knifes edge. I think I'm through that, broken the crsut and into the soft centre.

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