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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/7/2013 2:03:37 PM   
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Instead of going to Oktoberfest, our soldiers are now hoping for some of the secret weapons to drastically improve things. We would like to order a lot of Maus-tanks,


U play to much WoT, Terje

Rasmus


Not enough according to my clan
Nah, not that much anymore, and if I based it on WoT, I would have wished for some F***'ed up French autoloaders


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/8/2013 9:50:28 AM   
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Talked on the phone as I did my turn. Result; forgot to take ANY notes, so just a screenie for this turn. Sorry.







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/8/2013 10:37:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		looks like the pay off for gambling with a series of nearly ok attacks - sooner or later you get one where all the random elements falls down on one side. Sort of akin to how the AI tackles Leningrad, just keep hitting at 1-1 (+ a little) and sooner or later ...

still, as above, you've done a great job building this redoubt and channelling the Soviet blow south of Berlin and into a belt where you have multiple lines

for what its worth, think you can still make it to mud, which would be a remarkable fighting retreat after your 1942 offensive stalled

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 12:01:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		1945 is not the best year as the Germans.
About the combat values I wonder if the initial combat value includes the forts modifiers, while in the final combat value your forts levels are down to zero. Breaking your line will take some time and you still have some reinforcements coming.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 11:17:19 AM   
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looks like the pay off for gambling with a series of nearly ok attacks - sooner or later you get one where all the random elements falls down on one side. Sort of akin to how the AI tackles Leningrad, just keep hitting at 1-1 (+ a little) and sooner or later ...

still, as above, you've done a great job building this redoubt and channelling the Soviet blow south of Berlin and into a belt where you have multiple lines

for what its worth, think you can still make it to mud, which would be a remarkable fighting retreat after your 1942 offensive stalled


It all depends now upon how quickly I can build the new forts tbh.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 11:18:24 AM   
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1945 is not the best year as the Germans.
About the combat values I wonder if the initial combat value includes the forts modifiers, while in the final combat value your forts levels are down to zero. Breaking your line will take some time and you still have some reinforcements coming.


Too bad I need lvl 3 forts for those reinforcements to be able to hold though...
In 1945, the German stacks simply cannot hold (as it should be though) on their own in the open.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 11:38:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		well it's a matter of playing the clock now. It all depends on how long you can slow down the soviets even if he takes your forts down.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 12:02:55 PM   
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well it's a matter of playing the clock now. It all depends on how long you can slow down the soviets even if he takes your forts down.


If the forts go, I will lose at least one, probably two hexes per turn.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/9/2013 12:06:52 PM   
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Overall
Our last ally surrenders, we are now alone in our fight against the Red Horde. The USSR take three more "fort hexes" from us this turn, but luckily they cannot bring enough CVs to bring down the next fort line in the same impulse. This turn we also made one counterattack, it went well with a retreat/rout (two units retreated, 1 routed due to lack of space). The USSR made 38 attacks and scored 25 helds, 2 scouted, 9 retreats and 2 routs.

Losses
USSR : 130.000 troops, 1.713 guns, 553 AFVs, 948 AC.
Axis : 130.000 troops, 1.935 guns, 272 AFVs, 145 AC.

Axis units destroyed
Alot, aka all of the Hungarians.

German units disbanded
3 Fortified Zones, 1 Corps HQ.

German Pools
Manpower : 6.837
Vehicles : 185.421
Armaments : 74.937
Hiwi : 174







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/11/2013 1:20:39 PM   
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Not much for us to do but stand our ground and take whatever comes our way. So, nothing happens this turn, apart from 16 USSR attacks resulting in 14 helds and 2 retreats.

Losses
USSR : 75.000 troops, 896 guns, 246 AFVs, 558 AC.
Axis : 27.000 troops, 484 guns, 109 AFVs, 37 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
1 Fortified Zone, and the Juterborg PzDiv is merged into another weak, newly arrived PzDiv.

German Pools
Manpower : 659
Vehicles : 181.112
Armaments : 21.163
Hiwi : 92







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/14/2013 4:53:55 PM   
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Overall
Business as usual. The USSR keeps attacking our line, and we make a few deliberately chosen counterattacks (red circles below). We spend some points on building some new fort zones, and making some changes to our aerial units. I do not really need to know what the enemy has behind its lines, so recon squadrons are less important now, what matters are fighters and bombers, so we exchange recons for fighters and tactical bombers. This turn was a good one for the LW, as we received a lot of Bf109K squadrons with 40 planes ready for action.
12 USSR attacks ended with 6 helds and 6 retreats, while all 3 of our attacks gave a retreat.

Losses
FUBAR.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
7 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 4.934
Vehicles : 178.476
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 638
I really wish the Opel/Mercedes factories could start producing weapons instead...






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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/14/2013 5:23:13 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/14/2013 10:38:09 PM   
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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 3:28:39 PM   
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If this keeps going at this speed you could make it into May. :)


It is possible, it all depends upon how much mud I will get.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 3:30:17 PM   
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By then he should have a FZ in every hex he controls.


Now why would I want that?
Nah, I only need a few more tbh. There is a point where there is no reason to dig in, as if a given line is exceeded the USSR will be able to surround us completely.



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 3:33:50 PM   
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Overall
Nothing new, the USSR takes some more hexes, and we launch one counterattack. 20 USSR attacks gave 12 helds and 8 retreats, while we scored 1 retreat.

Losses
USSR : 72.000 troops, 956 guns, 371 AFVs, 763 AC.
Axis : 33.000 troops, 556 guns, 251 AFVs, 61 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
7 Fortified Zones, 2nd PzA (empty), Muncheberg PzDiv, Matterstock InfDiv, 609th zbV SecDiv.

German Pools
Manpower : 26.085
Vehicles : 176.010
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 429







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 5:31:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		With the mud ahead, you might make it to the historical date of May 1945.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 5:57:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		can't quite say 'looking good' but with that additional counterattacking punch, you must have a chance of getting to mud and thus May

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 6:34:34 PM   
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Hat off

BRAVO!!!!!!

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 6:52:38 PM   
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With the mud ahead, you might make it to the historical date of May 1945.


Yup, although the USSR is now dangerously close to Berlin.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 6:53:08 PM   
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can't quite say 'looking good' but with that additional counterattacking punch, you must have a chance of getting to mud and thus May


WHAT!?


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/15/2013 6:53:23 PM   
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I really like your way of fighting to the bitter end!

Hat off

BRAVO!!!!!!


Thank you


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/16/2013 2:07:13 PM   
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Overall
VERY good USSR results in the north (and crappy to say the least rolls for me as always) means that the northern flank is almost unhinged. I think the downfall will come sooner rather than later now.
Argh, and I forgot to count USSR attacks this turn. Well, we made 3, and scored 3 retreats.

Losses
USSR : 98.000 troops, 1.248 guns, 846 AFVs, 1.033 AC.
Axis : 45.000 troops, 814 guns, 182 AFVs, 201 AC.

Axis units destroyed
1 Fortified Zone.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified Zones, Pommernland Inf.Div, XIII Corps, CI Corps, V SS Mountain Corps.

German Pools
Manpower : 19.997
Vehicles : 177.068
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 80







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/18/2013 2:00:04 PM   
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Overall
I forgot to count the number of attacks again. But it is clear that I will lose the game north of Berlin, and there is nothing I can do about it unfortunately. We launched 3 attacks, and scored 2 helds and 1 retreat, which is really not good as that is a sure way to lose a lot of troops. Oh well.

Losses
USSR : 102.000 troops, 1.436 guns, 776 AFVs, 877 AC.
Axis : 50.000 troops, 838 guns, 407 AFVs, 52 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified Zones, XVII Mountain Corps.

German Pools
Manpower : 25.952
Vehicles : 172.713
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 275








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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/18/2013 2:13:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		looks like your opponent has done a superb job creating that blow in the north, those stacks are so powerful that if they take terrain, they are going to hold it almost regardless of what you commit.

as with others, kudos for sticking this out, as a reader it is interesting to see the end game from the axis perspective (sorry )

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/18/2013 5:51:49 PM   
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looks like your opponent has done a superb job creating that blow in the north, those stacks are so powerful that if they take terrain, they are going to hold it almost regardless of what you commit.

as with others, kudos for sticking this out, as a reader it is interesting to see the end game from the axis perspective (sorry )


Hehe no worry. In the end the Axis cannot really do much, just try to dislodge a stack or two. Unfortunately the numbers does not work for the Germans in -45 as they do for the USSR in -41.


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/18/2013 11:54:31 PM   
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Have you ever played PBEM as USSR? Any interest in doing so?

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/19/2013 1:02:39 AM   
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2923723

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/19/2013 6:29:01 AM   
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Terje,

Have you ever played PBEM as USSR? Any interest in doing so?


As Walloc shows, my first ever pbem was as the USSR
And apart from that, the game I have with BigBaba will be my last I am afraid.



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/19/2013 7:23:22 AM   
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Overall
Mud arrives in most of Europe, but alas, it is one turn too late. The North flank is blown wide open (or is that blown away?). 40 USSR attacks gave 30 helds, 9 retreats and 1 rout. The rout is really a retreat with no viable retreat path.

Losses
FUBAR again...

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
11 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 73.102
Vehicles : 173.803
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 706
Seems I have a lot of potential truckdrivers around...







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