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Never seen this before - 4/7/2013 11:45:32 PM

tk208

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Hey guys,

Thought I'd post this combat report just because I've never seen it before.

Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 756 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 568

Defending force 24292 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 847

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover

Japanese ground losses:
884 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1st Mobile Infantry Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
32nd Division
6th Mongol Cavalry Division

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 12:21:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tk208

Hey guys,

Thought I'd post this combat report just because I've never seen it before.

Ground combat at 81,39 (near Tienshui)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 756 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 568

Defending force 24292 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 847

Assault collapses, survivors seek cover

Japanese ground losses:
884 casualties reported
Squads: 25 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1st Mobile Infantry Regiment
5th Tank Regiment
32nd Division
6th Mongol Cavalry Division

Defending units:
3rd Chinese Corps
16th Chinese Corps

It's not something you want to see if you are attacking.

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 1:36:32 AM

joey

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I lost the first Cavalry division in a similar manner a few games ago. So, it does happen. You have to recon and watch the odds.

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 1:59:14 AM

wdolson

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I remember adding that code.

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 2:06:28 AM

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How do you get 568 AV from 756 troops 4 gusn and no vehicles? If I understand, the assault was broken off so only a portion of the units committed forces. Is this becuase the attacker didnt have enough supply?

Also like the touch where losses are greater than the forces committed!

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 2:27:13 AM

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Probable that the force display is accurate while the combat results are the mysterious "FOG OF WAR"... OoooOOOooooooOOOooooooooooo...

Just remember,if you dont know the answer,just say to yourself "FOG OF WAR!"

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 2:35:17 AM

Cpt Sherwood

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Th AV value shown is the AV of all the units present in the hex. It would appear that
the Japanese sent a small force across a river hex side that was not owned by the Japanese,
thereby triggering a shock attack using only the 756 troops, 4 guns, and 0 vehicles that
crossed the hex side.

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 8:04:04 AM

tk208

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cpt Sherwood

Th AV value shown is the AV of all the units present in the hex. It would appear that
the Japanese sent a small force across a river hex side that was not owned by the Japanese,
thereby triggering a shock attack using only the 756 troops, 4 guns, and 0 vehicles that
crossed the hex side.

Yeah I think that's what's happened im playing the allies and those forces have been facing off for a few months now.

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/8/2013 9:14:15 AM

Ddog

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Zigurat666

Probable that the force display is accurate while the combat results are the mysterious "FOG OF WAR"... OoooOOOooooooOOOooooooooooo...

Just remember,if you dont know the answer,just say to yourself "FOG OF WAR!"

Hey Z666,

Didn't you get the Memo on Fog of War?? It is now to be refered to as F.O.W. Or you can sound it out as Fow (sounds like Foe with an emphasis on the W) Get with the times man.....or am I missing the point, and you were doing the Retro thing??? I can be dense at times.

Cheers!

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/15/2013 12:22:40 PM

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Its funny that after not having noticed this comment before, I picked it up in my own PBEM within a few days. Empire kamikaze land attack across river from Mandalay to Schwebo to slow down a blitz attack. Stopped the assault movement towards Mandalay. Very effective.

Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 2152 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 146175 troops, 2150 guns, 4875 vehicles, Assault Value = 5559

Assault collapses, attacking force wiped out

Japanese ground losses:
2776 casualties reported
Squads: 182 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 184 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (19 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
3rd RTA/C Division

Defending units:
25th Indian Division
7th Armoured Brigade
5th Indian Division
8th Australian Division
268th Motorised Brigade
26th Indian Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
73rd Motorised Brigade
32nd Army Tank Brigade
16th Indian Brigade
Waziristan Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
3rd Indian Brigade
45th Recce Regiment
10th Indian Division
7th SA Armoured Brigade
99th Indian Brigade
B Sqn 3rd Hussars Regiment
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
39th Indian Division
Natal Mtd Rifles Regiment
75th IAC Regiment
9th Indian Division
8th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
251st Recce Battalion
1st Patiala Lancers Regiment
267th Armoured Brigade
2nd NZ Div Cav Regiment
51st Highland Division
XXXIII Indian Corps
India Command
1st West Coast Base Force
ML-KNIL
Eastern Army
221 Group RAF
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
MLD
III Australian
3rd RAAF Base Force
3rd (Special Force) Division

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RE: Never seen this before - 4/15/2013 12:45:43 PM

Mike Solli