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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/28/2013 10:21:29 AM

KenchiSulla

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Combat reports of action at Norfolk Island

Morning Air attack on TF, near Norfolk Island at 113,170

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 83
B5N1 Kate x 19
B5N2 Kate x 71
D3A1 Val x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 5 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Flusser, Bomb hits 1
CA Canberra, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Van Ghent
CL Helena
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hughes, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Sims, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Smith
DD Dunlap
DD Fanning

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Norfolk Island at 113,170

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 83
B5N1 Kate x 26
B5N2 Kate x 109
D3A1 Val x 95

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Flusser, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Kortenaer
DD Sims, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
DD Smith
DD Hughes, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Fanning, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Van Ghent
CL Honolulu, and is sunk
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
AO Kurumba

These strikes were very heavily escorted. What happened here?

Or Quixote wasn't expecting a counter strike and expecting heavy CAP
Or Quixote has attached one or two light carriers to KB and was running 40% CAP

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/28/2013 2:59:56 PM

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21-march-1942

Pacific

Moving reserve Catalina's to Auckland. Going to fly in some Aviation support to Norfolk. Enough to base two squadrons there (one elite P38E squadron).. This should at least bleed air strikes against the Island a bit.

If bombardment forces are seen moving in, I'll redeploy the fighters back to Auckland..

< Message edited by Cannonfodder -- 9/28/2013 3:00:27 PM >

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/28/2013 3:10:08 PM

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In China he will try and cross the rivers on your flanks. The Intel is so bad for the Chinese, it's better to think about it now. Have you considered leaving a small corp or two in his rear? Possibly hidden in the woods to haunt him later. Have you bought out any air assets from the states and transferred them to the far east?

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/28/2013 4:31:31 PM

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I have about 1500 AV in the rear.. Sadly

The AVG has left China. Yes I am getting bombed but the threat to India was severe so I pulled them back and China is mostly without air cover (not enough supply or decent airbases left anyway).

So far I moved in three squadrons of P39s, by now converted to P40s and three squadrons of B26 Marauders to the british sector. In total the US now has 150 fighters and 30 bombers in India.. Right now I am prioritising the Pacific (as Quixote is not pushing really hard and I have a lot of british fighters and bombers available..)

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/28/2013 6:20:54 PM

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After the loss of Kienko today (my war) I look through the av left in Chungking with horror. Mostly thoroughly defeated cadres from the spring battles. The av looks impressive but it take a lot of broken corps to achieve it. I'm watching what Quiote does as he is doing it faster than Paul is to me, but roughly the same way.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/29/2013 11:43:20 AM

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Pacific

The attack on Fiji is now underway. Losses so far are 7 AKs (ouch) and an AKV, a bunch of small dutch oilers and two DMs + assorted aircraft.. I'll post more and in more detail while it develops but I wanted to share an e-mail I sent out to Quixote today

Your making very good use of your current superiority. I am learning a lot from the way you are handling the Japanese and I have no doubt you will reach the 4:1 victory point requirement somewhere in 1942. Will be interesting to watch if you can keep it until 1943.

The impact of the mersing gambit is huge. Without it you wouldn't have had the troops available to conquer Colombo and Calcutta so early in the game and you would not have been able to expand as quickly. The allies just don't have the (trained) troops available to defend in the first few months...

The way you handle armour gamewise is fine. They are cheap to buy out (I think the tanks should be more expensive, as the strategic impact in China is huge) and the soviet trigger is based on AV, not on number of tanks.

If your goal is autovictory (it seems to be) I have a suggestion:

- I'll do my very best to prevent it

- If you achieve it - congratulations! But I would still like to continue our game to see the overal impact of the battles of 1942!

What say you?

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/29/2013 9:05:32 PM

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The main reason for me to ask that question is the fear of fighting an over-extended empire, hanging on to far out bases trying to reach autovictory roling into 1943.. All credit to Quixote if he makes it but it would be interesting to see what the strategy would mean for the empire in 1943..

I've got a response and I think he understands my motive. He also said it is not 1943 yet - and he is right. Every month I'll get a little bit stronger and while I have suffered casualties the only really critical sector is China.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/29/2013 9:06:34 PM

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Battle for the Fiji Islands current situation:

KB Estimated readiness 27-march-1942
20% of sorties expended

420323

Morning Air attack on TF, near Suva at 132,161

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
D3A1 Val x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AM Jan van Amstel, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Eland Dubois, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

420324

Night Time Surface Combat, near Suva at 132,160, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Ise
DD Harusame
DD Nenohi

Allied Ships
AO TAN 2, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
AO TAN 3, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
AO TAN 4, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AO TAN 5, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
AO TAN 6, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 12 damaged
F4F-3A Wildcat: 3 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 32 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 18 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
P-400 Airacobra: 33 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 2 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 21 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 9 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44
Port hits 1

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kabara at 137,161

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 44
B5N2 Kate x 37
D3A1 Val x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Bellatrix, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DM Ramsay, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Betelgeuse, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AKV Hammondsport, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Suva at 133,160

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
B5N2 Kate x 37
D3A1 Val x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DM Breese, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
AK Procyon, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AK Arcturus, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Algorab, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

420325

Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Afternoon Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 41 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N1 Kate x 16
D3A1 Val x 106

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 23 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 destroyed on ground
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
AD Black Hawk, Bomb hits 1, on fire
ACM Picket, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

Ground combat at Kai-eilanden (81,115)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 292 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 18

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 10

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kai-eilanden !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
15th Nav Gd /2

420326

Pre-Invasion action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

166 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 1
CL Tenryu
CL Abukuma
CL Nagara
DD Tachikaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Kikuzuki
xAK Nissan Maru, Shell hits 5
xAKL Saiho Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sumanoura Maru

Japanese ground losses:
235 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Amphibious Assault at Nadi (131,160)

TF 80 troops unloading over beach at Nadi, 131,160

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Invasion Support action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

96 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2
CL Tenryu
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 1
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
DD Hatakaze
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 1
DD Mutsuki
xAK Sumanoura Maru

Pre-Invasion action off Nadi (131,160) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

98 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 6, on fire
DD Hayate
xAKL Konsan Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Shosei Maru
PB Keijo Maru
xAK Kureha Maru #3

Japanese ground losses:
179 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Amphibious Assault at Nadi (131,160)

TF 61 troops unloading over beach at Nadi, 131,160

Japanese ground losses:
143 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

420327

Afternoon Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 45 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 56
B5N1 Kate x 19
B5N2 Kate x 113
D3A1 Val x 102

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 7
F4F-3A Wildcat x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged
D3A1 Val: 15 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed on ground
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
AKE Lillian Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 21
Port fuel hits 1

Ground combat at Nadi (131,160)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 15083 troops, 90 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 514

Defending force 1526 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese adjusted assault: 289

Allied adjusted defense: 27

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nadi !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
846 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 41 disabled
Non Combat: 30 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 46 (26 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
10th Garrison Unit
11th Garrison Unit
65th Brigade
64th Naval Guard Unit
67th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
3rd Marine Defense Battalion
Nandi Base Force

420328

Night Naval bombardment of Suva at 132,160

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 8 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
P-400 Airacobra: 4 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
Vincent I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (3 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 12

BB Ise firing at Suva
BB Fuso firing at 8th NZ Brigade

Morning Air attack on Suva , at 132,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
G4M1 Betty x 18

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 8 damaged
P-400 Airacobra: 7 damaged
F4F-3A Wildcat: 4 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

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< Message edited by Cannonfodder -- 9/29/2013 9:37:55 PM >

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/29/2013 9:12:45 PM

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22-27-march-1942

Bataan

Falls. A couple of divisions are trashed but mostly due to disablements... In about a month most of the units will be battle ready

Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 58180 troops, 762 guns, 271 vehicles, Assault Value = 1974

Defending force 38693 troops, 703 guns, 416 vehicles, Assault Value = 804

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1339

Allied adjusted defense: 467

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5193 casualties reported
Squads: 40 destroyed, 360 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled
Guns lost 57 (1 destroyed, 56 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
41340 casualties reported
Squads: 1918 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3480 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 164 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 752 (752 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 432 (432 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 37

Assaulting units:
9th Division
16th Division
38th Division
6th Guards Division
21st Division
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
16th Guards Regiment
5th Guards Engineer Regiment
5th Amphibious Brigade
5th Guards Cav Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
3rd Mortar Battalion
6th Shipping Engineer Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Army

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 9/30/2013 12:23:25 AM

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quote:

Your making very good use of your current superiority. I am learning a lot from the way you are handling the Japanese and I have no doubt you will reach the 4:1 victory point requirement somewhere in 1942. Will be interesting to watch if you can keep it until 1943.

A valid point, but if Quixote can achieve 4:1 even without having mounted a Pearl Harbor strike, I would say he has a moral victory. IMHO the U.S. would have been willing to accept a cease-fire in early 1943 to deal with the greater threat of Nazi Germany, had there not been the universal outrage over Pearl.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/1/2013 8:05:51 PM

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2-april-1942

China

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/1/2013 8:10:29 PM

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Pacific

KB is refueling, rearming (repairing?) at Luganville. Quixote makes extensive use of Kates on ASW duty and this lights up KB as if it were a Christmas tree.

Pago Pago receives the 2nd marine regiment (was bound for Suva). 7th regiment is loaded up and on the way to reinforce the area even more. Thinking about getting a fragment of the 8th marine regiment out of Suva. That should speed up the rebuilding of the 2nd marine division if/once Suva falls.

Quixote is moving in further reinforcements (unloading at Nadi). Four carriers, soon to be joined by Hornet are within striking distance but the fish now present are small and I smell a trap. Going to linger outside patrol plane range and see how the situation develops.. Auckland is about to receive Americal and a US tank battalion, prepped for Noumea.

Fleet news

Clemsons are being converted to the DE role..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/1/2013 8:27:38 PM

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India

With the IJN occupied in the pacific and the Indian divisions progressing nicely in training I feel confident enough to venture outside of Karachi/Bombay.. Quixote has been taking bases around Calcutta and Madras with small regiment size forces (1/3 of a division).

Time to challenge the IJA with forces able to do actually do some damage..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/1/2013 8:47:51 PM

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The bright side of getting bombed...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/2/2013 12:38:52 AM

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The 66th is my favorite at start corp. I have been using it to reinforce the 21st AG every game as scale tipper. Their going to need new shoes after this march.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/2/2013 6:10:04 AM

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3-april-1942

Pacific

Still a lot of shipping activity at Fiji, with a couple of miners now moving towards the captured section of the islands. No strike ordered for my carriers, the gains are low and the risks are large.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 8:01:21 AM

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4-7-april-1942

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Coastal guns and submarines sink a bunch of AMc's trying to clear the minefield at Suva. The only reason I can think of is that Quixote is trying to clear it for close support by DDs (battleships do not seem to be bothered by the mines in the hex).

Mines strike two Asashio class destroyers. Perhaps they reacted into the hex..

TF 169 encounters mine field at Suva (132,160)

Japanese Ships
DD Kasumi, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asagumo, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

So far I lose about 30 mines, with more then 250 left so the attempts are not effective while 3rd defense battalion stands guard (it only lost two of its guns in the withdrawal).

I've had my fleet carriers ready to strike outside the enemies visual range for a good while now. I seem to have lost the fix on KB (Luganville carriers are of the escort type according to my patrols) so not going to risk it unless the target is really valuable. Quixote keeps sneaking in troops by using small transport groups and perhaps even air transport.

India

I-164 is sunk after attempting to attack AKVs moving a couple of patrol planes and Wellington bombers to Karachi.

Submarine attack near Karachi at 37,6

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, hits 12, and is sunk

Allied Ships
AKV Athene
DD Nizam
DD Nestor
DD Napier

On the 7th my air offensive against Madras opens up. Bangalore airfield increases to five and it can support such a move. Plan is to clear the fighters and then suppress the airfield at Madras. 20.000 troops are reported to be present. Probably the Imperial Guards, maybe a tank regiment and baseforces to support at least a fighter group (now half destroyed in the first series of sweeps.

Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
H81-A3: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 29 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
21 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 28000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 11

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 78 minutes

Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
1st Sentai with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 8:02:27 AM

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I love when CD guns hit something.

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 8:39:36 AM

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China

Good news from China

Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 142402 troops, 1306 guns, 661 vehicles, Assault Value = 5057

Defending force 93558 troops, 633 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2785

Japanese adjusted assault: 1818

Allied adjusted defense: 5950

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
26240 casualties reported
Squads: 204 destroyed, 1885 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 281 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 260 disabled
Guns lost 185 (3 destroyed, 182 disabled)
Vehicles lost 211 (45 destroyed, 166 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3998 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 473 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 216 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 68 (5 destroyed, 63 disabled)

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
8th Recon Regiment
13th/B Division
104th Division
13th/A Division
13th/C Division
17th Division
51st Recon Regiment
61st Infantry Brigade
102nd Infantry Regiment
34th Division
58th Infantry Regiment
39th Division
116th Division
27th Division
40th Division
15th/A Division
22nd Division
15th/B Division
8th Armored Car Co
15th/C Division
China Expeditionary Army
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
23rd Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Mortar Battalion
11th Army
2nd Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
20th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
46th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
6th Construction Regiment
3rd War Area
6th War Area
29th Group Army
33rd Group Army
12th Group Army
7th War Area
25th Group Army
2nd Chinese Base Force
7th Chinese Base Force

It will not save the theatre but it's good for morale and it will slow this army down a bit! A bombardment attack two days after show what he has kept in the city and what he has retreated..

Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9202 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2481

Defending force 132055 troops, 1305 guns, 869 vehicles, Assault Value = 3170

Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
20th Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
49th Chinese Corps
86th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
26th Chinese Corps
21st Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
46th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
6th Construction Regiment
12th Group Army
33rd Group Army
2nd Chinese Base Force
3rd War Area
6th War Area
29th Group Army
7th War Area
25th Group Army
7th Chinese Base Force

Defending units:
13th Division
15th Division
27th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
8th Armored Car Co
8th Recon Regiment
17th Division
51st Recon Regiment
34th Division
61st Infantry Brigade
104th Division
40th Division
116th Division
13th Tank Regiment
102nd Infantry Regiment
58th Infantry Regiment
11th Army
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Mortar Battalion
China Expeditionary Army
23rd Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 9:38:30 AM

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Fascinating read

I'm surprised he didn't try to take all of India after that start

Do you think the crisis has passed?

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 9:48:33 AM

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No, the allies are from from safe. But they get to fight back now, which makes it more difficult for Quixote to advance. The Chinese stack that stopped the assault towards Chungking from the south now has a lot of 50+ experience infantry Corps.. They are not easily brushed aside..

In a recent e-mail Quixote told me that his decision to go for autovictory (and not the conquest of India) was based on not finding the british 18th infantry on Ceylon. He says he was worried about getting decimated when trying to take Bombay/Calcutta. His recent moves seem to support this story, he is not really committing in India...

The allied supply lines into India are secure, especially with the KB so far away around Luganville. Quixote does have strong interior lines so he can easily reinforce India with the infantry released from the Luzon campaign but it will be difficult for him to secure the entire area. The allies now have around 4000 AV in India, with more coming and the training of the Indian units progressing nicely!

Aden is developed into a strong port with plenty of troopships. If Quixote releases the emergency reinforcements now he'll have a major problem at his hands as it will take me about 2 weeks to reinforce the critical area in India...

If he had tried to take Bombay from the sea with what he used to take Calcutta there is no doubt he would have succeeded. But he didn't, so no need to keep hanging in the past..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 5:47:41 PM

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8-9-april-1942

India

Quixote pulls back his fighters from Madras. Sweeps do not got in on the 8th but they do on the 9th (no resistance) followed up by 48 Blenheims. The strike is succesful and leaves the Madras airbase damaged.

Wellingtons are moved into position as well. With no fighters or flak (not a shot fired at the Blenheims at 10k feet) present I'm determined to level Madras airbase and burn supply there.

Troops are prepping for Madras now (6th, 7th Australian and elements of british 70th division and 7th armoured brigade). If Quixote does not reinforce Madras any further (and does not threaten Bombay) I'll try to take it with around 1300 AV and 17th Indian in reserve...

Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 48

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
16 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb

Chittagong falls after bombardment by Hyuga, Mogami, Maya and Tone..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 8:39:47 PM

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Pacific - What do you think?

Would appreciate some feedback guys... weather is predicted as clear but that doesn't really mean anything ofcourse...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 9:20:16 PM

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From my humble experiences ..I noted that you have advanced weather=on ... this is a euphuism for "the earth's weather is more like the planet Hoth, and it is highly probable for grounding sea based float patrol planes "

. The KB sailing so far away from IJN patrols puts you at a great advantage with your land based patrols. The advanced weather = on also means that the KB has to allocate planes for search [which seem to me unaffected by the advanced weather option]

If the IJ are relying solely on float planes in this sector and have overlooked using CV based platforms for search the results could be better than anticipated ...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 10:40:19 PM

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Will he make that kind of mistake though?

Does he know that your carriers are around?

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 10:47:14 PM

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I'm sure he uses B5Ns to patrol. One of those hit a DM I had escorting transports at Norfolk Island. I'm not sure if he is aware of the location of my carriers. I've never seen them detected and he is getting rather cocky with his ships. He left most of his shipping at Suva covered by one group of A6M2s with his carriers resting at Luganville.

As far as I can Judge I'm up against a striking power of 100+ A6Ms (if he lingers he'll bump up his CAP so I'm keeping around 55 F4Fs on escort duty) 100+ D3A1s and 120+ B5Ns.. Thats a lot of aircraft so I'm going to lose ships. Thats ok, as long as I get a good strike into KB and manage to bleed his airgroups sufficiently to make a second strike on my carriers ineffective. A 100+ fighters on CAP should be able to bleed his air..

The allies also have radar. That should help me get above the package...

Also vectoring subs to the area. He is a long way out from a fairly safe port (Luganville). If he docks at Noumea or Koumac with damaged ships I'll have 5 groups with 40 4e's with plenty of reserves (50+ B17Es and 10+ early liberators in the pool) in range (flying from level 5 Norfolk Island).

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 10:51:56 PM

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Quixote is aggressive but is he gambler? A large chance that he will withdraw after the dash to Norfolk Island..

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 10:52:22 PM

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quote:

I'm sure he uses B5Ns to patrol. One of those hit a DM I had escorting transports at Norfolk Island

How close was this strike? Many IJ players put platforms on ASW patrol and they find stuff .. I wonder if this was a full 7 hexes away ??

Anyway .. you have the right expectations in my opinion that you hope to have some sort of exchange ...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 11:07:08 PM

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The range was at 6. Quixote usually has Kates on ASW duty but if he lingers he probably keeps them at naval attack.

Anyway, the die is cast. If Quixote lingers and the weather is clear we fight...

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RE: The old world vs the new: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs ... - 10/4/2013 11:19:10 PM

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I'm very interested in the results ...

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