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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 1/4/2016 5:21:53 PM   
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... Thus Matrix knows how to fix the older games but is NOT doing ...


There is no 'fix'. The only way I know of to work around the problem is to do a major overhaul of the graphics engine in the effected versions, because the operating system doesn't have backward compatibility for the full-screen mode used.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 1/20/2016 7:15:54 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/13/2016 11:57:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I ask me too to resolve the bugs of the list in the first post. Especially the bug about arty/mortar/air support that IA gives almost never to its battlegroups during ops and campaigns.
I also suggest to add to Steam TLD (but also WAR and LSA) after have fixed it (them): surely more players can be reached and the game deserves it. It really doesn't feel its ages and, for example, I continue to prefer original UI. The obliged choice about windowed mode in recent OS could seem a barrier for this pass, but in my opinion it’s not a big problem because setting the resolution identical to the screen resolution, it means to play in fullscreen resolution.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/23/2016 11:57:25 PM   
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Was it really Matrix? Microsoft made Windows and DirectX backwards compatible for years which allowed old games to be run for years. The original CC games from Atomic, the code that is the core to all the Matrix releases, still works today 15 years after their final game CC5. With Windows 8 & 10 Microsoft dropped some of the backwards compatibility and only the last 2 Matrix CC releases work full screen. Thus Matrix knows how to fix the older games but is NOT doing it for current owners or new buyers as they continue selling them all....



So, are you bragging or complaining? I was always under the assumption Matrix was developing/producing the CC remakes. My games work fine.


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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/24/2016 1:42:35 AM   
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I'm complaining that only the last 2 Matrix CC remakes can run full screen.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/24/2016 9:29:23 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/25/2016 2:58:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Running in windowed mode and setting the screen resolution to match your desktop with the taskbar set to auto-hide makes you only see the CC game. Which is pretty close to running non windowed.

Where it is not the same is for the CC menu screens, which are fixed 800x600 or 1024x768 depending on the release, which increase in size on my 1920x1200 monitor to fill most of the screen making them more readable rather than staying small like in windowed mode.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 3/2/2016 10:44:40 PM   
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Running in windowed mode and setting the screen resolution to match your desktop with the taskbar set to auto-hide makes you only see the CC game. Which is pretty close to running non windowed.

Where it is not the same is for the CC menu screens, which are fixed 800x600 or 1024x768 depending on the release, which increase in size on my 1920x1200 monitor to fill most of the screen making them more readable rather than staying small like in windowed mode.


Maybe you messed up getting a 1920 x 1200 monitor?

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 6/2/2016 2:44:22 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 7/21/2016 8:33:31 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 9/26/2016 1:51:35 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/14/2016 4:11:24 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 3/8/2017 3:32:06 AM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 8/26/2017 4:38:17 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 9/14/2017 4:21:10 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 10/10/2017 10:47:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I recently purchased The Longest Day (about 4 days ago), but it won't run on Windows 10 properly. I have tried to fix the problem through compatibility settings, but have not found the correct setting or combination of settings, if there is one.

I also own Gateway to Caen and Panthers in the Fog (through Steam), and they work fine. If Close Combat games on Steam work in Windows 10, why not The Longest Day?

I've been told in forums elsewhere that Matrix has no plan to fix other versions of Close Combat, which I find odd given that they already have coding to make Close Combat work on Windows 10, as evident by those games on Steam.

I accept that it's Matrix prerogative which games they want to work properly, but it does go against consumer guarantees to sell functional games on Steam, while selling a sideline of dysfunctional games from the Matrix website.

I would prefer not to ask for my money back, but selling games that don't work does look like a scam. How many other people have paid $40 for a game that is broken?

I had a screen capture of what happens on Windows 10 to show you the problem, but your forum does not let me post it. Is there a solution to the game? And does Matrix genuinely intend to fix its back catalog? Because I really want to shovel money your way for Last Stand Arnhem, but I don't want to purchase another dud game, or report your website as a scam site, if I can avoid it.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 10/19/2017 6:20:24 PM   
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The Longest Day will run on Windows 10 if you have the game in windowed mode, but not full screen mode. Please see this forum thread for details: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4190969

The reason the newer games (Panthers, Caen) work fine on Windows 10 is that they're using an updated engine that uses 32 bit color graphics. Older versions of Close Combat use various 16-bit color modes, and Microsoft stopped supporting these modes for DirectX full screen mode in Windows 10.

Steve


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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 2/25/2018 6:02:13 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 8/31/2018 6:47:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		When a vehicle has a crew of two the soldier screen does not show any weapons



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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 10/12/2019 7:34:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gun disappears when going from the BG unit selection screen (7.5cm IG18 right column 2nd from bottom) to battle/map (bottom right unit box). Note: the Begin button has NOT been pushed.

Based on discussions this is most likely due to the AI selecting a deployment location that the gun/crew can not fit. Previously raised in Nov. 2012.




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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 10/12/2019 7:41:41 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 10/12/2019 7:47:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the screen shot below you can see from the VL bar having grey that there was neutral VL's at the end of the battle.

These Neutral VL's were awarded to the German (player) side when the AI accepted a truce holding NO VL's which results in at best the AI BG retreating or at worst it being disbanded. The AI should not accept a truce if it holds no VL's and there are neutral VL's (if there are no neutral it will not accept a truce).

The map picture shows all VL's as German but the post battle description states both sides hold VL's so they do not match???

Previously raised in Nov. 2011.




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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 11/21/2020 7:55:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		On discord there is a Meuse GC on v3.52 and the air support crash mentioned in the first post of thread is still being seen.

Here is a link to a video of a battle this morning and at the end you can see the aircraft flying then the game crashed; https://www.twitch.tv/videos/808814010

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/2/2020 9:00:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another Meuse GC air support crash when units along the map edge were targeted.

Steve, did you previously state you found issue an air support issue do with the map and created a fix? Could this fix have not made into TLD or somehow not been later patches? Or this could just be something similar? Just found it interesting that they specifically said it was air support by the map edge....

Here is the link to the twitch video (it will only be available for about a week before it gets removed ~Dec. 6):
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/823462961

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/3/2020 4:36:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will double check. Do you know if this was single player or multiplayer? The title makes me think he was playing against someone else.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/4/2020 12:45:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both videos above are from H2H games in the ongoing Meuse H2H GC on Discord.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/4/2020 8:59:28 PM   
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Both videos above are from H2H games in the ongoing Meuse H2H GC on Discord.


Ok, thanks. Do you know if the person recording the video was the client / joiner? The client does involve a different bit of code that is not part of single-player / host airstrikes.




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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/6/2020 8:43:42 PM   
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Both videos above are from H2H games in the ongoing Meuse H2H GC on Discord.


Ok, thanks. Do you know if the person recording the video was the client / joiner? The client does involve a different bit of code that is not part of single-player / host airstrikes.




I can ask....

Edit: Pzt_Crackwise, the Axis player, was the host for the last video.

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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/7/2020 5:20:12 PM   
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RE: TLD Outastanding Bugs - 12/15/2020 8:51:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		The fix for the original 'air strike weapons hitting off map' is implemented in TLD. I've done some testing with stock TLD, both single and multi-player, and haven't been able to reproduce the crash.

Based on the video and the info you provided, it looks like everything is fine until the aircraft reaches the initial 'fire strafing weapons' position. I assume the HE111 as defined in the mod has bombs only (i.e. hull weapon(s) but no turret weapons?) In which case nothing special should happen here. The bombs aren't released until the aircraft is right on the target.

Is it possible the players have different versions of your mod? If the indexes for the aircraft in the vehicles file were different, the weapons defined on the aircraft were different, or the weapon indexes in weapons file were different, those could cause a crash on the client multi-player.

Do you know if the host game experienced any sort of error, or was it just the client?

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