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Name that Weapon - 1/14/2003 8:55:29 PM   
Jim1954

 

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- 1/14/2003 9:06:56 PM   
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- 1/14/2003 9:08:44 PM   
Jim1954

 

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- 1/14/2003 10:20:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim1954
[B]or maybe this? [/B][/QUOTE]

Appears to be a version of the sten gun, though what looks to be a folding stock has me stumped, I don't remember any stens equipped that way.
thanks, John.

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- 1/14/2003 10:21:34 PM   
john g

 

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[B]or this? [/B][/QUOTE]

looks like the 45mm brixia squad mortar
thanks, John.

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- 1/14/2003 10:25:15 PM   
Jim1954

 

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- 1/14/2003 10:29:10 PM   
Jim1954

 

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- 1/14/2003 10:31:11 PM   
Voriax

 

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- 1/14/2003 10:47:52 PM   
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- 1/14/2003 10:58:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first one is 1) A kind of flamethrower, possibly very early model, or 2) A piece of equipment the Terminix exterminator man would be using.

Edit: First image is definitely a FT, the Red Army ROKS-3. "The flame gun was designed to resemble a rifle to conceal its function, as flamethrower operators usually attracted a great deal of enemy attention and fire." per Bishop. Sort of like the NFL: Having the ball tends to attract a corwd.

Not an early model, either, the ROKS-3 was the standard Red Army backpack FT from late 1941 on, it was a simplified version of the -2, easier to manufacture and accordingly easier to use in the field. The image is exactly the same as the one in the Bishop WW2 Weapons Encyclopedia.

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- 1/14/2003 11:01:10 PM   
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- 1/14/2003 11:04:28 PM   
Jim1954

 

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Status: offline 		Here's another. It's difficult to find images of these things without the infantry units present. That would be too easy. lol

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- 1/14/2003 11:07:03 PM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		Ah, that fourth one is toooo easy. considering it's on my 'buy' list. Russian Nagant revolver.

and that flamer is also russian, ROKS-2

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- 1/14/2003 11:08:12 PM   
Jim1954

 

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:D

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- 1/14/2003 11:12:37 PM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		Jim, our Military History Association holds a shooting competition each year, weapons used are WW2 era or earlier.

The person who wins the Nagant competition is named 'Bolshevik of the Year' and gets a fine prize: A soviet style military cap (that old pointed one) with the text 'Bolshevik of the Year' embroided in it in Finnish and Russian :)

There is also a somewhat unofficial rule that the person must wear the cap in our meetings...

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- 1/14/2003 11:14:21 PM   
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- 1/14/2003 11:20:52 PM   
Jim1954

 

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- 1/14/2003 11:26:10 PM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		Ouch, a bad one...definitely pre-WW2.
Now where did I see it before...?

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- 1/14/2003 11:42:41 PM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		Still looking..one of those 'transitional revolvers'.. :)

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(bookshelf didn't help, this time :( )

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- 1/14/2003 11:45:44 PM   
Jim1954

 

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Status: offline 		It is pre-WW2 and domestic (at least to me).

:D

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- 1/14/2003 11:54:05 PM   
Voriax

 

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I'd say it's from 1850-1860 or thereabouts. Too bad you didn't find a bigger pic.

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- 1/14/2003 11:56:03 PM   
Jim1954

 

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Status: offline 		Yeah ,I have a clue, but not a bigger picture. I guess you've suffered enough. Here's the text.

Been fun batting these back and forth with you.

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- 1/14/2003 11:58:45 PM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		Heh, I just found it..savage indeed.

Here: http://www.ambroseantiques.com/ppistols/savage.htm


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- 1/15/2003 12:01:01 AM   
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- 1/15/2003 1:28:05 AM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim1954
[B]Bing, if anybody could get the nationality right, I figure it would be you. (hint) [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, I'm Welsh on my father's side and German on mother's. A dangerous combination, no question about that.

As to Boshevikism, no, not around here. I am a history buff with an interest in wargames, or the other way around, it is never clear which. I don't subscribe to anyone's political agenda except the one in which I was born.

While it has its faults, it seems to have worked about as well as any. An easy test is: How many people want to immigrate here. How many people want to go the other way, say to any one of a number of MIdde East nations?

My interest in the Red Army is purely historical - they have been consistently underrated, as have the achievements of their design bureaus. That's all there it to it, really. Thoroughly American to be a "champion of the underdog".

If that isn't what we were talking about, I have missed the point. Nohting new about that, either.

Bing

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- 1/15/2003 1:33:25 AM   
Jim1954

 

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That was my point, you are quite knowledgeable (that looks like too many letters), in that particular area of history.

Hope you didn't think I was calling you a commie.

:eek:

Jim

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- 1/15/2003 5:13:57 AM   
Bing

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim1954
[B]That was my point, you are quite knowledgeable (that looks like too many letters), in that particular area of history.

Hope you didn't think I was calling you a commie.

:eek:

Jim [/B][/QUOTE]

Oh, no, I didn't think that. Besides, if a person were a Commie today who would care? When I entered Mich State U and ROTC I was required to sign a loyalty oath. I was 18, didn't know better and if it were to happen today they would have a recommendation as to where the "loyalty" oath might be placed. The stupid thing about it, of course, was that if a person were subversive signing a loyalty oath would mean nothing - as good cover as could be expected, more likely.

I'm really more patriotic than I realized, I guess. Events such as WTC have a way of bringing that out.

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Have a guess... - 2/6/2003 1:09:24 AM   
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- 2/6/2003 5:36:54 AM   
Voriax

 

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Status: offline 		My guess is this is some sort of observation vehicle..too bad the pic is so bad, can't tell in the centre part is telescopic. Looks like camera lenses on top..but it's past midnight here and I'm too sleepy to hunt it down...

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- 2/6/2003 12:53:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is it a Bren carrier "Praying Mantis" ? Apparently it was built as a prototype armed with two bren guns on a hydraulic elevator to fire over hedgerows. It was one of the weird British "anti invasion" devices of 1940 ...

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