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why aren't walrus included? - 1/18/2003 6:43:38 AM   
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Walrus? - 1/18/2003 8:44:27 AM   
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I know of no successful attacks by walrus on ships or submarines during the war. It seems their ivory tusks never could put much of a dent in steel plate... ;)

Oh, you mean the floatplanes.... I don't know. There was some discussion in a much earlier thread about the lack of floatplanes on board RAN cruisers, but I don't recall that Matrix ever addressed the issue.

Paul

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- 1/18/2003 10:57:16 AM   
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I'll give this a go.... - 1/18/2003 2:10:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		afonzie. Hi!

I've helped a little with some of the database modifications. With regards to the Walrus, only a few ships in UV (RAN and RNZN) operated them.

These ships, the County class Australia and Canberra and the Apollo/Leander class Hobart, Leander, and Achillies. These ships also had a number of refits during the period of UV, all different. What had to be done, then, was choose a weapons fit which most illustrated that which existed during UV. The ones I settled on were those to Australia and Hobart which occurred by the end of 1943. Both ended up losing their capability to operate aircraft.

This decicion was made easier for two reasons. First, there was no provision in UV for these ships to operate aircraft from the beginning. Doing so would mean adding another aircraft and squadrons to the existing database. Second, and more importantly, is the fact that these ships did not have adequate facilities to operate these aircraft so their operational use was severely limited historically. To quote Vice Admiral William W. Smith, who commanded US forces operating with these Australian units prior to Coral Sea

"On the first morning, she (Australia, which carried but one Walrus) launched her sole aircraft along with ours. As our cruisers recovered their planes after the search, steaming at 10 kts, towing a SLED resembling a cargo net, and whipping the planes on board as they caught their hooks in the netting, Australia stopped dead in the water for more than half an hour. Since we were in enemy submarine waters, we were horrified! However, our consternation was even greater when Australia finally succeeded in grappling the plane for hoisting in, and the aircraft simply fell apart. From then on, American planes did all the searching".

Hope this has been helpful...:)

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- 1/18/2003 9:05:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		walrus wasn't icluded in RAN in GNB either. Ok so the reason is that they used them badly because I have seen pictures of Australia with a walrus

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- 1/18/2003 9:22:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Should be in WITP, though. I remember gathering tech data for it.

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- 1/18/2003 10:35:56 PM   
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Chinese philosopher Flung Dung says... - 1/19/2003 12:13:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Walrus like Space Shuttle ... need tight seal ...

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