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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/6/2014 11:27:27 AM   
Spidery

 

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Pools of obsolete aircraft unlikely to be used (unless as Kamikaze): Ki-27b, B5N1, G3M2, Ki-36, Ki-59, A5M4. Most everything else can be utilised. G3M3 and D3A1 have comfortable pools to cover losses, most others are just handling day to day losses and upgrades.






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/6/2014 5:05:50 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 10 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Allies manage another dud, otherwise quiet.

China

A few small bombings.

Chengtu attack reduces forts to 1 but result is 1:2 and I have messed up and allowed the 13th Chinese Corps to reinforce. Will have to hold off attacks for a turn. A recon regiment used in the attack is wrecked.

2 divisions obliterate the 8th New Chinese Corps East of Chungking.

Movement shows forces moving on Niekiang so will evacuate.

Burma

Allies attack in the jungle, a few A6M5 bleed over and down 5 Blenheims for the loss of 1 A6M5.

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

B-17E strike at Rossel Island at night for limited effect.

Increased sub spottings around Truk and the Solomons - may be first signs of an attack.

Engineering

Darwin forts are now 5, don't think I can afford to increase them to 6.

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/7/2014 2:42:21 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 2nd 1942

Air Losses: 9 Japanese, 10 Allied, 5 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Target airfields, now aim to keep all three remaining Allied airfields closed. 2 P-38E are destroyed on the ground at Chungking.

An attack at some badly bashed up Chinese forces achieves:
quote:


Attacking force 42871 troops, 580 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297

Defending force 59245 troops, 124 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1329

Japanese adjusted assault: 879

Allied adjusted defense: 51

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1591 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 100 (6 destroyed, 94 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
15875 casualties reported
Squads: 666 destroyed, 83 disabled
Non Combat: 762 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8


Unfortunately, there was a retreat path open that has moved the enemy in an awkward direction.

Allies are attempting to cut supply routes to the forces attacking at Chengtu. Allies have moved into Neikiang hex.

Burma

Allies try a sweep but find nothing.

Australia

B-17E strike at Horn Island in the day and are met by Ki-43-1c, 3 losses to 7 B-17E shot down (6 Air-Air, 1 ops). I can take that!

Pacific

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/7/2014 7:29:17 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 3 Allied, 3 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Supressing airfields and targetting some troops. Attack at Chengtu reduces forts to 0.

quote:


Ground combat at Chengtu (75,41)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30426 troops, 478 guns, 972 vehicles, Assault Value = 1021

Defending force 28541 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 542

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 612

Allied adjusted defense: 777

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1075 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 90 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1125 casualties reported
Squads: 75 destroyed, 59 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Guns lost 17 (1 destroyed, 16 disabled)


Destroy two isolated headquarter units.

Burma

Allies try another sweep but find nothing.

Australia

B-17E strike at Nookanbah, completely unoccupied.

Pacific

Quiet

Engineering

Singapore airfield to 9 (not sure it was worth it!). Amami Oshima to 3.

R&D

D4Y4 to 12/44
A6M5c to 4/44

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/8/2014 12:41:51 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 5th 1942

Air Losses: 8 Japanese, 3 Allied, 2 Pilots
Japanese occupy: Babuyan(air drop)
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Keep pushing.

Burma

Allies try another sweep but find nothing.

Australia

B-17E and B-17F strike at Nookanbah.

Pacific

Quiet

Engineering

Allies expand Tarawa to 3.

R&D

B6N2 to 8/43.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/8/2014 3:17:17 PM   
Spidery

 

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Air Losses: 16 Japanese, 2 Allied, 9 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Drive back a force near Kunming into the mountains.

Continue to target airfields and push at Chengtu. Concern growing of Allied counter-attack.

Burma

Try to counter the Allied sweep but it goes bad.

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

Quiet

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Ki-43-IIIa to 5/44.
Ki-43-IV to 10/44.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/8/2014 5:57:18 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 7th 1942

Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 3 Allied, 3 Pilots
Japanese occupy: Chengtu, Burias(air drop)
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Chengtu falls at last and with the industry largely intact. Will immediately move some fighter cover in. Supply is going to be a problem here for a while.

Unfortunately, most of the attackers (including both tank divisions) have lots of disruptions and need some weeks to recover.

An attack on the Kienko road does not do well but a good attack in the plains.

Chungking airfield is reporting as 83 damage and Kienko as 42 so I should be able to keep these closed and use the air force to destroy Chinese in the open. This should keep Niekiang safe.

Plan now is to clear the East bank of the Jialing while recovering at Chengtu and holding at Neikiang. Will then try and cut across the middle of the plains.

Burma

Quiet

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

Quiet

Engineering

Akyab forts to 4. Will stop there.

R&D

Ki-44-IIc to 3/43

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 9:13:26 AM   
Spidery

 

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The current state of shipping liquids back to the home isles. Fuel is mostly under control but there are some oil stock piles. I hope to clear this down to maintenance levels before the Allies get better torpedoes.

Fuel & oil from Miri/Brunei/Tarakan has been dropped on Luzon or Formosa.

Fuel from Java and Balikpapan is sent to places to be used.

Oil from Sumatra is sent to Malaysia. Fuel is set to Malaysia or all the way home. 

Malaysia 490,000 oil 128,000 fuel
Luzon    174,000 oil  89,000 fuel
Burma     54,000 oil  29,000 fuel
Sumatra   48,000 oil  86,000 fuel
Java      19,000 oil
Borneo    37,000 oil  62,000 fuel
Formosa   13,000 oil 162,000 fuel
Mindanao  10,000 oil

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 9:41:24 AM   
Spidery

 

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Some estimated dates for aircraft being available.

Fighters 

A6M5c         5/43
A7M2          7/44
N1K1-J        3/43
N1K2-J        8/43
J7W1         12/44

Ki-44-IIc    11/42
Ki-43-IV      5/43
Ki-84r        9/43
Ki-83         9/44
Ki-94-II     12/44

Night-Fighters 
J1N1-S       10/43
A6M5d-S      12/43
J1N1-Sa       4/44
P1Y2-S        7/44
S1A1          6/45

Ki-45 KAId    1/44
Ki-46-III KAI 3/44
Ki-102c       2/45

Bombers 

B6N2         12/42
D4Y4          4/43
P1Y2          9/43
B7A2          1/44
B6N2a         2/44

Ki-115b      11/44

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 10:07:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow...lots of RnD efforts!!!!
Just be carefull that all those supplies spent on those RnD factories will hunt you down in 1944/45, so keep in mind that your first propriety will be keeping the flow of fuel/oil to the HI as safe as possible. Keep the focus on that target

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 11:16:40 AM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 8th 1942

Air Losses: 7 Japanese, 0 Allied, 5 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Lots of Allied attacks on ASW task forces that miss followed by ineffective ASW attacks.

I-20 locates an interesting task force, East of Ndeni, but misses:
quote:


Sub attack near Vanikoro at 128,145

Japanese Ships
SS I-20, hits 8

Allied Ships
xAP Matsonia
BB Mississippi
BB West Virginia
DE John D. Edwards
DE Edsall
DE Bulmer
DE Alden
AM Sonavati
AM Madras
AM Geelong
xAP Tabinta
xAP Empress ' Asia
xAK Mulbera
DD Le Triomphant
DE Gilmer
DE Humphreys
DE Litchfield


Damage to I-20 is 29/41/0 so should be able to make safety.

China

No Allied bombing of Chengtu.

Keeping airfields closed and targeting Chinese forces in the open. This is costing a few aircraft in flak and ops losses.

Allies launch a bombardment attack at Neikiang to probe:
quote:


Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 33615 troops, 124 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1075

Defending force 15225 troops, 171 guns, 104 vehicles, Assault Value = 467

Allied ground losses:
1195 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


On that basis, I may as well launch my own bombardments. Still it is a threat to the base.

Trying to eliminate 2 Chinese Corps
quote:


Ground combat at 79,44 (near Patung)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 23825 troops, 173 guns, 204 vehicles, Assault Value = 791

Defending force 20474 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 418

Japanese adjusted assault: 710

Allied adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 44 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
382 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2765 casualties reported
Squads: 97 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 12 (7 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Burma

Quiet

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

Lots of Allied task forces spotted East of Ndeni. No reports of carriers. Looks like something may be up.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Nakajima Ha-45 to 11/42.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 11:27:21 AM   
Spidery

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

wow...lots of RnD efforts!!!!
Just be carefull that all those supplies spent on those RnD factories will hunt you down in 1944/45, so keep in mind that your first propriety will be keeping the flow of fuel/oil to the HI as safe as possible. Keep the focus on that target


Absolutely, keep the fuel and oil flowing, and avoid wasting it. Protect the LI and the aircraft factories.

There are very few factories that I plan on changing between lines, so most factories will be expanded once only. That means I have about 1,000,000 supplies needed to fix all the factories (or about 5% of the production in rest of 42/43/44).

The SRA produces about 27,000 supply in the form of fuel/oil per day so these costs come down to the margins around when that production is lost.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 2:30:24 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 9th 1942

Air Losses: 7 Japanese, 5 Allied, 3 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Allies sink a 1250 size tanker in the Sea of Japan.

China

No Allied bombing of Chengtu.

Air attack tempo is reducing as planes need repairs. Allied forces are continuing to threaten Neikiang.

Chinese losses are heavy from air and ground attack.

Burma

Quiet

Australia

B-17E try attacking transport task forces at Horn Island and Saumlaki. They score no hits (bombing from 10000 feet). At Horn Island, Ki-43-1c intercept them and shoot down 4 planes for the loss of 1.

Lightnings sweep Port Moresby, nobody is there (lucky they didn't target Horn Island).

Pacific

There are now at least 10 task forces near Ndeni. Two Mavis are lost to CAP.

I can't tell how many task forces there are because the display isn't big enough to show the list.

4 sub reportings in the Solomons. Begins to look like Tulagi may be the target.

No signs of CVs.

Engineering

Allies expand Ndeni to 2.

R&D

Quiet


Allied forces in Ndeni area. Note that the list for the Eastern hex is truncated so there could be even more task forces there.






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/9/2014 10:50:12 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 10th 1942

Air Losses: 49 Japanese, 6 Allied, 11 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Sub Wars

Quiet

China

Allies keep quiet.

A Chinese Corps is destroyed.

Airfields are getting repaired so need to divert from bombing ground troops to hitting airfields. Nicks will continue strafing.

Burma

Quiet

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

A lot of search planes are lost to CAP. It is now confirmed that he is attacking Tulagi and that Allied carriers are in the area. 6 of the old BB bombard Tulagi during the day and some Nells and Oscars make suicidal attacks. The bombardment damages all the Mavis at the base and more than decimates the defending engineering units. A few Nells get through but score no hits, A mini-sub takes a pot shot on the approach and is badly damaged. It is also out of fuel.

Sightings are of many task forces including two carrier forces but it is not clear if that is all his carriers.

He may planning on a double attack and also hitting Buin or Rossel Island. All aviation assets will be sent to Rabaul and set to a relatively short range strike so if he comes closer they may get a pot shot. Surface shipping will pull back closer to Rabaul and subs flood the area.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 10:21:48 AM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		Upgrade to 1.7.11.23x4
MrKane is reporting having sync issues the last few turns

September 11th 1942

Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 16 Allied, 1 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at: Lunga

Sub Wars

Quiet, except in South Pacific.

China

Another Chinese Corps destroyed on the East bank. Nets over 100 LCU VP for the turn.

Good deal of bombing, also supply arriving at front lines so will attack again.

Chinese defenses are crumbling and his move out of Chungking is giving me the opportunity to weaken a lot of his troops.

Burma

Quiet

Australia

A group of supply ships was off-loading at Horn Island, its air cover has been moved to Rabaul and it was sent to Port Moresby. However, dive bombers struck at it and all 4 ships are lost.

Pacific

Allies land at Lunga, looks like a nice base for him to develop. 1st Marine Division is seen to land.

I-155 takes a shot at an AMC, misses, and is sunk.

I-32 is retiring hurt (34/57/5).

RO-65 sinks an ACM.

Still only reports of 3 CV operating in this area. Lots of attacks against subs from carrier aircraft.

Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet


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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 2:59:38 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 12th 1942

Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Lunga
Japanese land at:
Allies land at: Tulagi

Sub Wars

SS Herring sinks a DMS near Rabaul.

Various ineffectual attacks.

China

Chinese unit on the Chengtu-Neikiang road turns out to have zero AV and is driven back.

Other attacks make progress but are quite costly taking about even losses with the Chinese.

Bombing at Kienko sees no flak. Airfields are now well closed again.

Burma

Quiet

Australia

Quiet

Pacific

Allies auto-capture Lunga and land the 2nd Marine Division at Tulagi.

Lots of attacks on my subs getting some hits. Many Allied subs located at the Western end of New Britain and I lose a DMS. Allied task forces have vanished, apart from that seen at Tulagi.

Engineering

Buka airfield expands to 3 and some fort building.

R&D

Quiet


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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 8:41:02 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		September 13th 1942

Air Losses: 272 Japanese, 314 Allied, 223 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy: Pentecost Island, Tulagi
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

A CV engagement happens near Munda. KB rushes South and the Allies drift North. Day finds the forces some 80 nautical miles apart and massive air strikes fly both ways, LBA also joins in but despite getting a lot of aircraft through CAP does little good. The only loss on the day is a mini-sub abandoned at Tulagi.

CV Status:

Hiyo 10/6/5
Junyo 7/0/4
Shoho 24/7/5/4
Zuiho 48/59/13/7
Hiryu 41/18/20/6
Soryu 59/19/31/88
Zuikaku 51/44/39/7

Also damaged:
BB Hyuga 28/4/7
CA Suzuya 25/0/0
CA Kinugasa 43/21/11
AV Kamoi 25/7/1
And an AKE that is doomed

Soryu will be scuttled but the rest can be saved if protected from the Allied next strike.

Hiyo, Junyo, Akagi, Kaga and Shokaku can make up a reasonable strike force if I can find the planes for them.

Ryuho and Ryujo are too far away to join in.

What is the best thing to do with the surface combat task forces? Should I send them in amongst the Allied forces to cover the carriers and, possibly, do some damage. Or do I send them on a path that takes them through Allied areas at night and out again for the day. Or do I keep them back with the carriers?

Most of the LBA morale is shot but the aircraft diverted from damaged carriers are good and pose a threat to the Allies if they pursue.

Damage to Allies:
quote:


CA Quincy, Torpedo hits 1
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Chester

CA Portland, Bomb hits 3, on fire
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 3
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CV Lexington, on fire
CA Quincy
CV Yorktown
CV Saratoga, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 1
Fuel storage explosion on CV Saratoga

CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB North Carolina, Bomb hits 2
CV Hornet
CA Salt Lake City
DD Downes

CA Louisville
CV Lexington, on fire
CV Saratoga
CA Chicago
CA Chester, Torpedo hits 1

CL Leander
BB Warspite
CL De Ruyter, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage


Aircraft losses suggest that about 2 carriers worth of aircraft diverted but had nowhere to land. So that is Enterprise and Wasp not flight capable but the other 6 carriers are probably in a position to pursue my damaged ships.

Engineering

Rabaul airfield to 8.

R&D

Quiet






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 8:48:17 PM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		Rabaul is at level 8, Buka is at level 3 but only has 8 aviation support. Both have torpedoes available.
Rossel Island is at level 4 and has some torpedoes available.






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 9:41:47 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Wow, looks like you won that round if you can get away with IJN damage control. Well done.

What do you think the prospects are for your BBs? I would be cautious with them...risk/reward ratio doesn't seem good to me with Warspite and North Carolina basically undamaged plus two CVs unhurt too.

Plus, I think you would need to send the BBs near Tulagi to catch him -- further away from your bases....

You have given him a bloody nose...be happy and conserve your forces for more important real estate.

IMHO. Free advice is cheap and often wrong.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 10:07:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nicely done! And for more free advice, I agree with Lowpe that it would be best to keep your BBs under LBA and CV cover.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/10/2014 11:59:01 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		In looking closer at the report...what altitude did the Nells go in at? And were the Jakes all on search/asw?

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 7:37:06 AM   
Spidery

 

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Status: offline 		Thank-you for the cheering words folks. I'm not as happy about the result. I seem to have blown much of my pre-war trained pilots without getting a single enemy ship sunk. Next time we engage I won't have such good pilots.

Looking a bit more closely I see two of my carriers have a cruise speed of 1 which is going to make it hard to save them.

I will send a CL/DD force to a destination just a bit South so that it should sweep through the area and return North before the day but may encounter some stragglers if he retreats South. The BB and CA forces will move to cover the retreating carriers. I am also expecting a lot of subs to move to try and catch me and will try and cover the string of islands with ASW forces so I can engage some of them in shallow water.

Two of the CS ships were with the KB and had all their Jakes on search at 6000 feet. With the carrier forces so close (I had expected to be engaging at range 6 or so with him in the Tulagi area) they were lost to CAP in droves. There were also some Jakes at Buik on 50% search/50% attack, 11 of those attacked.

I had my Vals on the carriers at 10% search which probably wasn't necessary given the close engagement.

The Nells & Betties were at 6000 feet, the KB planes at 12000 feet (with some A6M5 on CAP at 18000 feet), some army planes were at 1000 feet with Low Nav trained pilots in them.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 10:52:09 AM   
setloz

 

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I don't think there's much you could do to turn this around. On an optimistic level, you stand to lose at least 3 carriers.
Keep in mind that TFs in port do not disband until AFTER the air combat phase has resolved. I've lost several BBs that I was hoping to save by disbanding in port because of this.
So, with the allied CVs still hunting, it wouldn't help if you tried to disband the heavily damaged CVs in a port like Buin.

And of course, I'll state the obvious - he's surely going to send lots of TFs to clean up your stragglers. So prepare for night and day surface combat.

Good luck!

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 11:11:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spidery

Looking a bit more closely I see two of my carriers have a cruise speed of 1 which is going to make it hard to save them.



Ugh., Then pray for bad weather. I have got my fingers crossed...Allies might retreat...

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 12:12:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Spidery

Looking a bit more closely I see two of my carriers have a cruise speed of 1 which is going to make it hard to save them.



Ugh., Then pray for bad weather. I have got my fingers crossed...Allies might retreat...



Forecast is for clear skies.

The Zuiho is trying to make a full speed move that may well break it. The Zuihaku can move at cruise speed to Buka. Everything should reach Buka this turn, or sink. The intact CVs are stopping 1 hex off there. SCTF have been left on the approaches and there is a nice minefield freshly laid. I have flown more aircraft into Rabaul and Buka and am airlifting some more aviation support to Buka.

Another worry is that a lot of ships are short of AA ammo.

Could be interesting to see what happens

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 12:17:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: setloz

You are right, it's not a fair exchange for you. :(

I don't think there's much you could do to turn this around.

...

Good luck!


I hope there is something I can do or I have just wasted 4 hours moving planes around, sorting out task force composition, etc.

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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 5:25:43 PM   
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Air Losses: 45 Japanese, 5 Allied, 19 Pilots
Japanese occupy:
Allies occupy:
Japanese land at:
Allies land at:

Pacific

Allied carriers retreat to Tulagi but three cruiser forces pursue.

The first one is of 3 CL and meets a cover force of 3 CA and suffers
quote:



Japanese Ships
CA Maya, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi, Shell hits 1
CA Mikuma, Shell hits 12
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 1
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri, Shell hits 1, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Helena, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
CL Honolulu, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Lardner, Shell hits 1
DD Woodworth
DD Bancroft, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Sims, Shell hits 1
DD Hughes
DD Anderson
DD Hammann


The second one is of 3 CL and gets up against the KB and the big BB guns that are useless. CS Chiyoda and DD Kagero are lost.
quote:


Japanese Ships
CV Junyo
CV Hiyo, Shell hits 1
CVL Shoho, Shell hits 1
CS Chitose, Shell hits 3
CS Chiyoda, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Hiei, Shell hits 1
BB Kirishima
BB Ise, Shell hits 2
DD Kagero, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Arashi
DD Tanikaze
DD Arashio
DD Kasumi, Shell hits 1
DD Hibiki
DD Shinonome

Allied Ships
CL Boise
CL Phoenix
CL Nashville, Shell hits 3
DD Laffey
DD Mustin
DD Russell
DD O'Brien, Shell hits 2
DD Walke


The third one has 4 CA and finds no action.

Allied subs score one hit on the CVL Zuiho but it is a dud. Sea and air ASW claims many hits but no idea how much damage really inflicted.

The only air strikes are against the Allied CA group which has no CAP. The first strike is of 56 Nells or Betties, average NavT skill of 70, experience about 60, attacking with torpedoes under partial cloud against 4 CA they score zero hits. Next up is 18 Kates, another 18 misses. Finally, 16 Kates and 24 Vals score:
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CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
CA Vincennes, Bomb hits 1
CA Astoria
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, on fire


Ship sunk sounds are heard, Intel is claiming the CL St Louis and a CA. VP gain suggests just the St Louis.

Status of CV see below. The Zuiho is unlikely to survive. The others should survive if they can make it through the sub threat to somewhere safe.

China

The IJA performs much better than the IJN.

Defenders are driven back across the river into Kienko
quote:


Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42620 troops, 693 guns, 495 vehicles, Assault Value = 1034

Defending force 48505 troops, 133 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 765

Japanese adjusted assault: 491

Allied adjusted defense: 232

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1083 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 133 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 67 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 24 (12 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 52 (23 destroyed, 29 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
17465 casualties reported
Squads: 361 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 526 destroyed, 89 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 18 (16 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 7

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
37th Division
19th Division
14th Division
15th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
13th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
9th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Army
26th Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
22nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
40th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
48th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
36th Group Army


Chinese forces wandering in the wilderness near Chihkiang are attacked and severely mauled:
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Attacking force 13457 troops, 113 guns, 56 vehicles, Assault Value = 431

Defending force 41615 troops, 60 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 813

Japanese adjusted assault: 88

Allied adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
13806 casualties reported
Squads: 369 destroyed, 37 disabled
Non Combat: 289 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
17th Division

Defending units:
46th Chinese Corps
9th Prov Chinese Corps
65th Chinese Corps
50th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps


Engineering

Quiet

R&D

Quiet






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 5:30:17 PM   
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Priority is to get across the Jialing and establish a route for fuel to get to Chengtu. This will generate the supply needed to fuel the offensive in the plains.

Second priority is to damage Allied forces that are in the open.

Third priority is the push on Paoshan.






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 5:31:54 PM   
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It is getting real easy for my ASW aircraft, they can almost drop a DC anywhere and get a near miss!






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RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no Mr... - 4/11/2014 5:43:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can I risk having ships at Kavieng or Rabaul to get some fixing done and if so for how long?

Once he has Tulagi or Lunga expanded to level 4, Rabaul will be in extended range for medium bombers, even at level 2 he can fly heavy bombers with extended range load. At level 5 he will be able to launch massed heavy bomber strikes at normal range so definitely need to be out of there before then.

Rabaul is in extended range for B-17D and B-24D from Australia and in normal range for LB-30.

The Zuiho, if it can put the fires out, and the Zuikaku will have difficulty making it to Truk through the sub menace with their current speed and state


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