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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/16/2014 11:05:50 PM

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DL'd v1215. And continued to wait for MWiF to be playable multi-player via the net, and for the Fascist Tide scenario to be playable as that is the scenario I actually want to play. Is there any news on that front? or A.I. play? AR

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/16/2014 11:44:14 PM

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It is very playable by the net right now. Playing a game using Teamviewer and Skype. Works great. And the person I am playing with is on the other side of the US from me

. So I do not know why people keep saying multi-player does not work. Yes Netplay does not work, but honestly I no longer see a real need for it anymore.

Besides I am not sure I would even want to try and play the game with someone I did not know already. But hey that is just me

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/17/2014 11:40:00 AM

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For me, if there is no netplay, there is no multiplayer. All the rest id trying to get what the game should have and doesn't with lind of patches. Because Teamviewer + Skype is a patch, unless you can operate in your mate computer to check the unit in the stacks and see what is below the upper unit, etc...

This, not to speak that you can only do this with people you really rely on, a hacker would have a great time worth Teamviewer, I guess.

'll keep o n waiting

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/17/2014 9:10:23 PM

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Interesting that you see TV and Skype as a patch. Everyone can see all the units just like you can if you played solitaire. Basically anything you can see and do when playing by yourself both players can also do the exact same things. So again, not sure why this will not work for you. Since it works for me and quite a few others.

Also I want to be clear that hacking has nothing to do with using TV and Skype. No one can 'break' into your session. However, you are giving someone else the ability to control your cursor and see your desktop. With the person I am playing with, this bothers me not at all. Would I let a total stranger do this no. But this is NOT hacking. Since you have to voluntarily give someone the access code to your TV session to allow any of this to occur.

I totally understand that you may not have anyone that you are willing to play WiF using this method. But that is totally different than hacking a secure system. Of course if everyone you know are hackers ...

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/18/2014 4:02:38 PM

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quote:

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DL'd v1215. And continued to wait for MWiF to be playable multi-player via the net, and for the Fascist Tide scenario to be playable as that is the scenario I actually want to play. Is there any news on that front? or A.I. play? AR

Steve is at the moment busy with the naval bugs, after which Netplay comes next. When Multiplayer Netplay becomes available, I don't know, since that depends on the new order of battle which will be decided on after two player Netplay is around.

On the two-map scenario's, there is no progress made, I'm afraid.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/20/2014 12:58:00 PM

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Interesting that you see TV and Skype as a patch. Everyone can see all the units just like you can if you played solitaire. Basically anything you can see and do when playing by yourself both players can also do the exact same things. So again, not sure why this will not work for you. Since it works for me and quite a few others.

Also I want to be clear that hacking has nothing to do with using TV and Skype. No one can 'break' into your session. However, you are giving someone else the ability to control your cursor and see your desktop. With the person I am playing with, this bothers me not at all. Would I let a total stranger do this no. But this is NOT hacking. Since you have to voluntarily give someone the access code to your TV session to allow any of this to occur.

I totally understand that you may not have anyone that you are willing to play WiF using this method. But that is totally different than hacking a secure system. Of course if everyone you know are hackers ...

See, I don't really know that tool

but:

- As I mentioned, to give access to your PC it needs to be a really close person.
- If access to moving the mouse and clicking is not necessary, only visualizing what there is in the partner's screen without interacting, IMO and based in on a previous experience I think there's not enough info to play well.

And apart from these, I mean a patch in the same sense as a patch in a wheel. The original system doesn't work as intended and you need to do something to solve it partially temporarily. Maybe it's not partial if the partner can move and click, but this is a very restricted case.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/20/2014 9:57:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: Numdydar

Interesting that you see TV and Skype as a patch. Everyone can see all the units just like you can if you played solitaire. Basically anything you can see and do when playing by yourself both players can also do the exact same things. So again, not sure why this will not work for you. Since it works for me and quite a few others.

Also I want to be clear that hacking has nothing to do with using TV and Skype. No one can 'break' into your session. However, you are giving someone else the ability to control your cursor and see your desktop. With the person I am playing with, this bothers me not at all. Would I let a total stranger do this no. But this is NOT hacking. Since you have to voluntarily give someone the access code to your TV session to allow any of this to occur.

I totally understand that you may not have anyone that you are willing to play WiF using this method. But that is totally different than hacking a secure system. Of course if everyone you know are hackers ...

See, I don't really know that tool but:

- As I mentioned, to give access to your PC it needs to be a really close person. True

- If access to moving the mouse and clicking is not necessary, only visualizing what there is in the partner's screen without interacting, IMO and based in on a previous experience I think there's not enough info to play well.
They can actually move counters, use Naval forms, etc. just as if they were sitting at your PC and playing the game. So whatever you can do with the mouse/keyboard they can too

And apart from these, I mean a patch in the same sense as a patch in a wheel. The original system doesn't work as intended and you need to do something to solve it partially temporarily. Maybe it's not partial if the partner can move and click, but this is a very restricted case.
True the original design has not been implemented, so in that case you could consider using TV and Skype a 'workaround' but if you have the same experience using this as Netplay then it works for me and others. So if Skype/TV = Netplay why bother with NetPlay? But again you do need a trusted partner to do this with. But the system will allow you to kick them off the PC if you see them 'wandering off ' the game screens.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 10/21/2014 7:08:52 AM

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Hmmm.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 11/27/2014 12:27:14 AM

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Saw the price drop for the holiday sale and hope will put a spark in the development of what one day will be the greatest WWII game of all time.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 11/27/2014 12:59:12 AM

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I finished the Guadalcanal scenario.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/2/2014 2:07:23 AM

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finished watching some more training videos and continue play BARBAROSSA solitaire very soon

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/2/2014 6:16:42 PM

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Yesterday I did some impulses with my friend, and the dices are swinging both sides.
The fight for Suez is a struggle that is syphoning German resources and forces too whereas the Italians can barely maintain the army in supply oversea!
And poor Japan is starving already of oil since Nov/Dec 40! (Embargo'ed!)
July / Aug '41 is the current turn ... and the Axis is very on late on their schedule (Greece intact, Suez in English hand and ontop of that USA have 40-50% war entry chance!)

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/6/2014 3:25:44 PM

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Today I drooled over my new copy of Khaki in Flames and I am busy trying to figure out what random objects I have laying around to McGuyver a counter cutting jig together with� I'm thinking we'll play with the Khaki counters on land but keep the blue counters in the ocean, 'cept for the CV planes it looks like...

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/6/2014 5:21:25 PM

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Check out the C4 corner cutter. That's what I bought when I picked up KiF.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/6/2014 6:16:09 PM

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I did check that out. I just want to steal their idea. $20+ for probably the last set of counters I ever prepare seemed too much, I have to have some pieces of hard plastic around that will work. Unless of course I buy a copy of the Anniversary Edition of the game next year, which I probably will�. i do have some counters from the Classic sheets that are showing a good amount of war weariness, particularly any German land counters they might have on the board in 1939. So maybe the C4 will be in my future after all.

I can't wait to see the KiF counters on the board. A game of World in Flames in action is quite the colorful experience. I think we might use the original blue counter CW CV planes and just manually adjust the force pool dates based on what the KiF counters say. But a British Army Group on campaign with the new counters will be cool. And I'm looking forward to the new micro naval war in the Red Sea. I'm thinking to get a Garrison division over there somehow and it's time to exploit the new Flotilla and the new supply unit rules�.here I come Aden!

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/7/2014 3:10:33 AM

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I can't wait to see the KiF counters on the board. A game of World in Flames in action is quite the colorful experience.

Here you go...

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/7/2014 3:16:19 AM

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I think we might use the original blue counter CW CV planes and just manually adjust the force pool dates based on what the KiF counters say.

There are a LOT of changes in the CVP sizes.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/8/2014 5:33:51 AM

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Out of pure curiosity - what the Factory Specialization rule states? (Being a MWIF user I am clueless on that!)

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/8/2014 7:16:08 AM

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It is not in MWiF. It is in the Factories in Flames rules, which came out in the 2008 Annual. How they work is you build them, and then once they arrive, once in each build phase, you can pick a specific unit to build instead of choosing one randomly. There are Air, Infantry, Armor and SCS Specializations.

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RE: What did you do today in World in Flames? - 12/9/2014 5:12:27 AM

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I think today I might have given up on an Axis strategy I've been wanting to try. I've always thought if a strategy couldn't survive bad dice, it's not a great strategy. But I have to wonder�.

On the first try, the Axis attempted to conserve both of their Offensive Chits for the real goal of the strategy, and not use them in France. They came to grips with the French and immediately fell apart. Missing 8 Ground Strike rolls with 5 or 6 point Stukas and then rolling 5 or less on the 2d10 four times in a row.

I started the game over. The next game, the Germans rolled 3, 5, 2 against Poland on the 2d10; even with the CW stashing the HQ in the Pripets this bloodied the German army pretty good. They had already decided to use an Offensive Chit in France and promptly rolled a 17 and an 18 on the two attacks with it. Afterwards, they rolled 5 or less for 3 straight combats and came to another halt, meanwhile the French rolled a 20 with a crap plane model and shot down the well escorted German PARA. I have been playing a maximize-France strategy with the Allies, pumping in British resources and Build Points.

Both games have featured things like four straight impulses of Storm in the North Temperate during the winters, and the obligatory one Storm and a short turn in May/Jun. In the second game the Allies have rolled a 1/10 split with their Swordfish NAV2 against both Axis SUB forces while continually slipping surface ships through a half dozen Axis naval bombers of various sorts in various boxes to sink Axis attempts to keep forces in Algeria in supply, though the Fleet Air Arm has been shredded in each game. All of the rest of the Axis luck goes to Japanese strategic bombing attacks, which hit their Chinese targets 5 turns out of 6, multiple times a turn usually.

I might try again, I'm not sure. It is so easy for the Allies to thwart Axis plans by simply ordering their infantry to die over and over again in ways the historical commanders could not. I hope the electronic game can some day include a record keeping function that could help easily generate loss statistics and counter usage statistics to aid in writing a manpower rule to put a serious historical consideration on the players in a future edition of the game.

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