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RE: Is that gamey? - 3/15/2015 1:51:16 PM   
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That is only "gamey" in that you must do your mentioned "work-around" in order to fill the slots as you see fit..

In real life, many commanders were assigned to train a unit, but their higher ups never intended those commanders to go into combat with those units.
Captain Sobel is a good example. He trained the so-called "Band Of Brothers",(Co E,2nd Bn., 506th PIR) but he did NOT go to combat with them. Historically, he is remembered as an excellent trainer, but not a combat leader whatsoever,(though he did stay with the Rgt HHC)..

You may consider the original commanders (in game) to have been a training cadre, you are replacing them with combat commanders.







And let's be honest. A heck of a lot of good training commanders just were not worth anything in combat. Almost every National Guard division had it's original CO replaced before it went overseas.



My dad served in the 29th(National Guard)..It was commanded by Charles Gerhard,(West Point), and he was infamous for huge casualties. He got the job done but at greater human cost than any other division commander in the war.
The saying was he actually commanded three divisions at once.One on the field, one in the hospital, the last in the cemeteries.
As we all know, several "Guard" units were better in combat than some of the so-called "regular" divisions.

One of my dad's stories:

http://29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Stories/Clark_Robert_F.htm


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RE: Is that gamey? - 3/16/2015 1:54:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: m10bob

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ORIGINAL: AW1Steve


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ORIGINAL: m10bob

That is only "gamey" in that you must do your mentioned "work-around" in order to fill the slots as you see fit..

In real life, many commanders were assigned to train a unit, but their higher ups never intended those commanders to go into combat with those units.
Captain Sobel is a good example. He trained the so-called "Band Of Brothers",(Co E,2nd Bn., 506th PIR) but he did NOT go to combat with them. Historically, he is remembered as an excellent trainer, but not a combat leader whatsoever,(though he did stay with the Rgt HHC)..

You may consider the original commanders (in game) to have been a training cadre, you are replacing them with combat commanders.







And let's be honest. A heck of a lot of good training commanders just were not worth anything in combat. Almost every National Guard division had it's original CO replaced before it went overseas.



My dad served in the 29th(National Guard)..It was commanded by Charles Gerhard,(West Point), and he was infamous for huge casualties. He got the job done but at greater human cost than any other division commander in the war.
The saying was he actually commanded three divisions at once.One on the field, one in the hospital, the last in the cemeteries.
As we all know, several "Guard" units were better in combat than some of the so-called "regular" divisions.

One of my dad's stories:

http://29infantrydivision.org/WWII-Stories/Clark_Robert_F.htm




The 29th is pretty much the exception to all rules. It's a "hallowed unit" that even a squid like me would know about.

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