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All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter colors - 12/31/2013 9:46:00 AM   
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I've redone _all_ 27 Red Storm maps _again_, with a whole bunch of improvements, and a web page providing samples and more detail. Download them here.

Sample of a full map (Red Storm 9 aka Hameln, used in the Pied Piper Scenario, 'Summer' theme):


Zoom-in on a map (Red Storm 1, 'Summer inverted' theme):


Available for download here are:
- summer maps (27 maps), lighter-is-higher elevation colors
- summer 'inverted' maps (27 maps), darker-is-higher elevation colors
- winter maps (27 maps)
- printer-friendly black & white .jpgs of all 27 maps, for note taking / sketching your own plans and enemy CoAs



Features
- 1km grid lines, to make judging distances easier (as in Flashpoint: Germany 1985)
- clear elevation differences, with contour lines, clear steps between hexes, relief shading, field and forest colors being different for each elevation level, and simple dark to light elevation color coding*: higher-is-brighter
- road names (in addition to town names), to match the briefing and to make it easier to formulate and memorize your plans
- three types of roads are drawn on the map: highways (A##), major roads (N##) and minor roads (L/K/St), with larger roads being wider. Highways have their name on blue shields, major roads on yellow shields.
- so-called "clear" terrain is drawn to feature some brushes and trees, making it more obvious that this type of terrain it is harder to move through and to see through than the "fields" terrain. (The FC:RS manual says: "[t]hese tiles are not really "clear" but they have a small amount of rolling hills, some trees, field and buildings".)
- consistent styling for all maps.
*: Except for the 'Summer inverted' theme, which features light-to-dark elevation colors, as requested by the community.

Change log:
2014 07 08: Labeled virtually all streams on all 27 maps, since these play a key role in battles and AARs. Updated printer-friendly maps with the urban 'perimeter blocks'.
2014 06 26: Render a 20 pixel margin around the map, with hex grid coordinates, for a paper map "look".
2014 06 10: Represent towns and cities as a mesh of urban 'perimeter blocks', with irregular town shapes. Reduce blurring.
2014 04 05: Changed representation of "mixed" aka "clear" terrain to tree clumps (if no road nearby) and tree lined roads (if nearby road). Added subtle large soft shading behind hills. Toned down elevation color blending of forests since hill shades made elevation more clear.
2014 03 24: Introduced 'Summer inverted' theme with darker-is-higher elevation coding. Tweaked elevation colors for Summer themes so all colors derive from green. Render trees with more highlights and shades. Draw (metric) map scale in bottom left corner.
2014-03-17: Updated to match 2.03a. Smoothened sides of rivers (not streams), hills, and roads using splines. More accurate roads.
2014-02-20: Updated to match 2.03. Fix bug in hex outline, and added some pertubation to the hex outline for a more organic, less "hexy" look. Improve map borders (notably streams running along border).
2014-02-08: Blend forests and fields with elevation base color so elevation is more prominent. Improved road network (by scanning the original .png file). Change road coloring to Google maps style orange/yellow/white. Use satellite image backdrop for fields. Smaller font size for labels, since maps are being used zoomed-in. Gray urban houses to contrast with red rural houses. Reduced number of road lables. Change file format to 8bit/channel for smaller file sizes. Smoothen/blur most of map to show fewer jaggies when zoomed-in. Printer-friendly maps added.
2013 12 31: Initial version

William

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 9:48:31 AM   
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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 10:00:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sweet. Are they generated from the existing map data? You mentioned Desert terrain. Are you planning to do more and if so would you need existing FC:RS maps to use to "convert"?

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 10:26:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		These maps are generated from a .fp9 map data file and a hand-made data file describing the road network and map borders. The pain-in-the-behind is the road network, and there I need to improve.

If the desert maps you're thinking of don not contain dense road networks, it shouldn't be a problem for me to render these, provided you give me a .fp9 file and some real map data for reference.
I've been thinking about doing a 1973 Yom-Kippur (Sinai) map from scratch, but haven't found the time yet. This game would be great to model that theater.


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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 11:17:06 AM   
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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 12:41:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: W1ll14m

These maps are generated from a .fp9 map data file and a hand-made data file describing the road network and map borders. The pain-in-the-behind is the road network, and there I need to improve.

If the desert maps you're thinking of don not contain dense road networks, it shouldn't be a problem for me to render these, provided you give me a .fp9 file and some real map data for reference.
I've been thinking about doing a 1973 Yom-Kippur (Sinai) map from scratch, but haven't found the time yet. This game would be great to model that theater.



Unfortunately, I don't have anything yet I just noticed you mentioned desert terrain and then wondered how the new maps were generated to get an idea of what was going to be needed.


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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 12:45:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		For anyone interested, I went ahead and edited the direct file links for the OP's 1st post below;

- summer maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_summer.zip
- winter maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_winter.zip


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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 1:26:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice. Interesting look with the map grid overlay instead of the hexes.

The game will accept an almost endless variety of map graphics. I'm sure we've just begun to see the graphics that can be applied to the game.

I look forward to seeing what the desert maps would look like.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 12/31/2013 7:46:56 PM   
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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/1/2014 5:57:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Second for a desert map......Iran, Syria, Iraq all kinds of great scenarios to re-create.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/1/2014 5:58:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Double Deuce

For anyone interested, I went ahead and edited the direct file links for the OP's 1st post below;

- summer maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_summer.zip
- winter maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_winter.zip



Hard to install just copy over the files?

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/1/2014 6:12:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Double Deuce

For anyone interested, I went ahead and edited the direct file links for the OP's 1st post below;

- summer maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_summer.zip
- winter maps (260 MB download, 27 .png files): http://www.cgf-ai.com/binaries/flashpoint_redstorm_map_graphics_winter.zip



Hard to install just copy over the files?

No sure how he has them set up, I just converted the links W1ll14m posted in the beginning of the thread so people could have easier access.


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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/1/2014 10:11:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		You would need to only use one "set" at a time in the Maps folder. I would place maps in sub-folders and copy over the ones I want to use. I would also copy/more the originals into a sub folder if you want them later.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/2/2014 10:38:04 AM   
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You would need to only use one "set" at a time in the Maps folder. I would place maps in sub-folders and copy over the ones I want to use. I would also copy/more the originals into a sub folder if you want them later.


It would be nice if the game could enable to the user to load an alternative map bitmap file upon scenario selection. Preferably with a file dialog using the original file name as mask. This would allow multiple sets of map graphics to be installed in (mod) folders.
Today, the problem is that the relation between scenario briefing and map file isn't obvious (I still haven't figured out which scenario is using the FPC Interactive Map.png), so you'd have to copy all png files, just to be sure you see summer / winter / whatever map.

IIRC, the game already supports loading custom unit graphics this way.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/2/2014 12:36:58 PM   
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Interesting look with the map grid overlay instead of the hexes.


I agree. Personally I have a difficult time wrapping my mind around the 500m hexes. Grid squares like TacOps, fine. 250m hexes like PB/PL/AIW, fine. But the 500m hexes? Meh. It works, but maybe a simple toggle for hex grid vs 1000m grid square overlay could be considered as a furture game feature??

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/2/2014 1:48:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure how much work a hex grid vs square grid would be to make happen. When we discussed just toggling labels I was told that was a big deal. I'll put that on the Wish List though and we'll see.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/2/2014 3:47:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll just say the 2.X game engine is hex based. It would be a whole new deal to go squares again. That doesn't mean you can't make maps with squares on them, you just have to know movements are still in hex style as are locations for objects on map.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/5/2014 4:46:48 PM   
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Thanks for creating proper links.

A desert map currently looks like this. The fields can easily become more transparent, and the trees / brushes can be rendered in less vibrant green, to make the map look more arid.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/5/2014 7:27:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice! I think the green looks ok since an arid map would likely have less trees overall when the base map is created and you wouldn't get large patches all together like you rendering the current maps.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/23/2014 7:33:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did You by any chance changed the destroyed units crosses? It is a screenshot from my ongoing pbem game (that's why some vital info boxes are whited out ;-) ), crosses in the eastern part of Emsburen are all blue, but for 100% they were not my units but soviet - so they should be red. Looks like the change occured during the game, after I copied Your map files, because there is one red cross (northernmost square row, second from the left square) indicating soviet unit destroyed early in the game. All later soviet victims appear in the blue.




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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/23/2014 7:56:19 PM   
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Did You by any chance changed the destroyed units crosses? It is a screenshot from my ongoing pbem game (that's why some vital info boxes are whited out ;-) ), crosses in the eastern part of Emsburen are all blue, but for 100% they were not my units but soviet - so they should be red. Looks like the change occured during the game, after I copied Your map files, because there is one red cross (northernmost square row, second from the left square) indicating soviet unit destroyed early in the game. All later soviet victims appear in the blue.


Hi Paulus,

the updated maps you downloaded have nothing to do with the map icons such as the crosses, mines and bridges. The maps (bitmaps) go in totally different folders than the map icons.
You can verify the presence of the (Kill_B.png, Kill_R.png) crosses by looking into the following folder:
Flashpoint Campaigns Red Storm\Assets\Map Markers
Terrain map bitmaps go into
Flashpoint Campaigns Red Storm\Modules\FPRS\Maps

Please check with your PBEM opponent if he/she sees the same problem, and submit a bug if so.

Good luck with your game!

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/27/2014 11:28:45 PM   
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I've been polishing the maps (and map renderer), improving the road network to better match the game's roads, and tweaking the map style.
After seeing Plodder's work in this forum, using colored roads (yellow, orange and grey roads as in Google maps), I experimented with that as well, and it looks better.
In response to discussions about Vietnam maps and 9 elevation levels of jungle canopy, I tried blending the tree color with the underlying elevation base color, and it works reasonably well.
You'll see these improvements a couple of days after the next game update arrives, as I intend to cover the new maps as well.

Finally, I've been toying with something I've been wanting from a war game for a long time: (b/w) printer-friendly variants of the maps, so I can make/use notes while planning/playing using 1980's technology.
(CS Red Storm 1 shown, with road numbers, bridges, town names, etc.).



Let me know what you think...

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/28/2014 2:11:17 AM   
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A thin sheet of laminate and some markers would do you wonders

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/28/2014 11:17:29 AM   
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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 1/28/2014 12:39:16 PM   
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I'll just say the 2.X game engine is hex based. It would be a whole new deal to go squares again. That doesn't mean you can't make maps with squares on them, you just have to know movements are still in hex style as are locations for objects on map.


What I was suggesting was a simple toggle for an optional 1000m grid square overlay over the existing maps, not a change from the underlying 500m hexes in the game engine. Just a cosmetic thing.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 2/8/2014 10:18:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just updated the first post with examples of the maps re-done again (with many improvements), and a web page offering downloads, examples and instructions.

Feedback is welcome.

I'm looking forward re-making the new maps coming with patch 2.03.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 2/8/2014 1:22:54 PM   
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Very cool work. The maps are important tool for planning. James Sterrett runs off these table top size ones when we do Staff exercises at Origins.

How are you placing bridges? Are you adding them after the fact or as a routing from processing?

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 2/8/2014 1:48:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great job on the maps? I like what you did for the naming of the main roads.

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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 2/8/2014 2:27:15 PM   
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RE: All 27 Red Storm maps re-done, in summer and winter... - 2/8/2014 2:33:13 PM   
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I love the theme. It's colorful and clean.

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