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NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 2:23:17 PM

JohnSmith

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Hi guys,

I'm designing a board game, and I was just wondering what the NATO symbol for an insurgent/guerrilla would be.

In theory I could use an infantry symbol, but that has a tendency to represent organised infantry, not a rag-tag insurgent unit.

I've seen in some games they use this symbol for Guerrilla units: http://s316.photobucket.com/user/UN-Spacy/media/IMG_1936.jpg.html

However I can't find any official documents stating that this is actually the case.

anyone have any suggestions?

Cheers

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 3:12:52 PM

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My shaky memory seems to recollect something using an "I" for "Irregular". Can't remember if it was something game specific or not.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 3:20:24 PM

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here's what we used for Next Wars I: Orange Crush
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/unit-symbology.html

For US symbology (which is about a 95% overlap w/ NATO) you want MIL STD 2525B
http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-2000-2999/MIL-STD-2525B_20729/

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 3:27:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bayonetbrant

here's what we used for Next Wars I: Orange Crush
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/unit-symbology.html

For US symbology (which is about a 95% overlap w/ NATO) you want MIL STD 2525B
http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-2000-2999/MIL-STD-2525B_20729/

Cheers for the responses.

I like the Commando symbol. I think that might be more appropriate for my GRU Spetsnaz than the standard [SOF] nato symbol.

As for the insurgents, I may have to design something myself in that case. Any more suggestions are welcome!

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 10:03:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSmith

quote:

ORIGINAL: bayonetbrant

here's what we used for Next Wars I: Orange Crush
http://grognews.blogspot.com/2011/06/unit-symbology.html

For US symbology (which is about a 95% overlap w/ NATO) you want MIL STD 2525B
http://www.everyspec.com/MIL-STD/MIL-STD-2000-2999/MIL-STD-2525B_20729/

Cheers for the responses.

I like the Commando symbol. I think that might be more appropriate for my GRU Spetsnaz than the standard [SOF] nato symbol.

As for the insurgents, I may have to design something myself in that case. Any more suggestions are welcome!

How about an uneven, lopsided infantry symbol denoting an "irregular/insurgent"?

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/3/2014 11:06:45 PM

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I have no idea on how the NATO symbol for insurgent or guerrilla looks like.

But I do like how the partisan counter looks like in MWIF so I can't resist showing it.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/4/2014 2:55:28 PM

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There's no official NATO symbol for guerrilla units so it's up to you....anyway, you can find a quite complete list on wikipedia.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/4/2014 4:14:08 PM

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There is, they take the same form as standard hostile infantry/recce/supply/motorised infantry. This is explicitly shown in the App6 documents.

There are also symbols for insurgent activity sans identified bodies of soldiery ~ booby traps, ambush sites, artillery firing positions (or impacts) etc.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/4/2014 5:37:12 PM

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In traditional war games (read that as board war games) empty white boxes have been used, or a rectangle with a P or I have been used.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/5/2014 2:03:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

I have no idea on how the NATO symbol for insurgent or guerrilla looks like.

But I do like how the partisan counter looks like in MWIF so I can't resist showing it.

Good suggestions guys!

I will see what I come up with and let you know!

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/6/2014 1:31:42 PM

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I settled for a similar take on the 'P' for partisan. Instead I wanted to focus on the fact that these are Mujahedeen units, and thus the 'M' for Mujahedeen, combined with the infantry cross.

There is also a Soviet Mechanised Infantry unit present.

Thanks for the help guys.

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/6/2014 1:37:15 PM

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sounds like a good plan :)

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RE: NATO Symbol Help - 2/6/2014 4:00:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JohnSmith

I settled for a similar take on the 'P' for partisan. Instead I wanted to focus on the fact that these are Mujahedeen units, and thus the 'M' for Mujahedeen, combined with the infantry cross.

There is also a Soviet Mechanised Infantry unit present.

Thanks for the help guys.

Looks awesome.