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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

I appreciate all the answers they helped a great deal. I also clearly need to read again on supply. Before I do, quick question...I assumed that having conquered france (no vichy) that all my units in France would be in supply...clearly that is not the case. Anyone care to share a quick comment about this before I go delve into the manual more.

Thanks

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

2 Questions regarding a global war with all optional rules being used:

First is for the picture. Its Mar/ Ar 1942, the weather is I believe snow...why are my german ship seen in the picture out of supply? I thought I was going to send them out soon, but I looked and they are out of supply. I feel this reminds me yet again I dont really understand supply.


Second. My son is Allies. America is in the war. He is having a hard and slow time moving units across the pacifc and atlantic. Are there any recommendations for this? Any good strategies for this long distance movement?

Thanks

The ships need a HQ unit in range (about 3 hexes in snow) to act as the secondary supply source that then traces a railway path back to Paris and then Berlin.

To move across the oceans the US and CW need transports. If they haven't built enough and/or have taken losses, then it will be a slow process. The US Pacific War was a slow island hopping campaign as islands were captured, built up as forward bases and then used as the springboard for the next leap forward.

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

Next 2 questions. First is for the picture.

1. I am Germany. I am at war with Russia. My invasion is mediocre and that is fine, we are still learning. What is not fine, and is confusing are my minor allies seen in the picture. rumania, hungaria, bulgaria. Maybe its me, but they dont seem to be able to do anything. I really cant get them to leave their country. Do they get HQs? If not can germany hqs supply them? heck I have hangarian units that are out of supply just by moving to their border edge, let alone leaving their country. How are they supposed to be used? How are they supplied? What am I doing wrong with them?

2. I built one supply point as germany to experiment with. Seen on picture. I have read the rules for it but am not feeling really sure I get how they are used. Can someone provide some clarification please?

3. The allies have the means to move troops to murmansk and land them..ie British. Can they do this like the BEF in France? If so do they need to work like the foreign troop commitment thing for france? ie have a HQ and that determines units he can bring up there? He is thinking of trying to land a british corp in murmansk and we both scratch our head regarding this. Can he do it? If so does it need HQ? If so how is it supplied?

1. What you can bring out in the way of minor country units depends on how you played the various options when/if the USSR claimed Bessarabia. Some will be full allies meaning all units can come out. Others will be friendly but can only send half of their units abroad. Some get HQ's you can build. On the German and Italian production screens there will be an option in include minor country units. Units in their own country can go OOS if out of range of a city or HQ than can trace a supply path back to a city. They can be supplied by other Axis HQ's.

2. If spent, a supply unit allows a HQ to act as a primary supply source for the remainder of the turn. Other units can draw supply from it and the HQ does not need to trace a supply path back to a normal primary source.

3. As far as I can tell, CW going to USSR would be the same as BEF in France. It would need an HQ and the HQ would set the number of other units that could be brought. To keep in supply there would need to be a convoy chain back to the UK.

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

The supply unit you built is likely a waste of BPs unless it and an HQ somehow get caught off from regular supply deep inside Russia at some point, or possibly a weather change puts a whole section of the front out of supply because some HQs are more than 2 from rail lines. A supply unit allows you to turn an HQ it is stacked with into a Primary supply source for the rest of a full turn.

But normally, the Axis would not build one for Russia. A drive through Syria to Iraq is a good place for them. Or at some point if you held Gibraltar and had an HQ there but got surrounded by the Allies as they come back, then you could last an extra turn, maybe, by expending it. Unfortunately it stacks as a Div though, so that would cut down on the number of combat units holding the fortress you are trying to create.

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"Printed factory in hex being attacked -1". Is that -1 for each printed factory in a city hex or -1 if there's any printed factory in a city hex (i.e., -1 regardless if there's 1, 2 or 3 printed factories)?

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

Next 2 questions. First is for the picture.

1. I am Germany. I am at war with Russia. My invasion is mediocre and that is fine, we are still learning. What is not fine, and is confusing are my minor allies seen in the picture. rumania, hungaria, bulgaria. Maybe its me, but they dont seem to be able to do anything. I really cant get them to leave their country. Do they get HQs? If not can germany hqs supply them? heck I have hangarian units that are out of supply just by moving to their border edge, let alone leaving their country. How are they supposed to be used? How are they supplied? What am I doing wrong with them?

2. I built one supply point as germany to experiment with. Seen on picture. I have read the rules for it but am not feeling really sure I get how they are used. Can someone provide some clarification please?

3. The allies have the means to move troops to murmansk and land them..ie British. Can they do this like the BEF in France? If so do they need to work like the foreign troop commitment thing for france? ie have a HQ and that determines units he can bring up there? He is thinking of trying to land a british corp in murmansk and we both scratch our head regarding this. Can he do it? If so does it need HQ? If so how is it supplied?

1. What you can bring out in the way of minor country units depends on how you played the various options when/if the USSR claimed Bessarabia. Some will be full allies meaning all units can come out. Others will be friendly but can only send half of their units abroad. Some get HQ's you can build. On the German and Italian production screens there will be an option in include minor country units. Units in their own country can go OOS if out of range of a city or HQ than can trace a supply path back to a city. They can be supplied by other Axis HQ's.

2. If spent, a supply unit allows a HQ to act as a primary supply source for the remainder of the turn. Other units can draw supply from it and the HQ does not need to trace a supply path back to a normal primary source.

3. As far as I can tell, CW going to USSR would be the same as BEF in France. It would need an HQ and the HQ would set the number of other units that could be brought. To keep in supply there would need to be a convoy chain back to the UK.

1 No. All of them will only let you take out from the country half + 1 units regardless of how they came to the axis they all have the same commitment; maybe you are mixing up with Politics in Flames or other expansions...

3 Yes, the same situation as in France.

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

Yeah that is the down side of denying their claims. But I've seen Germany DoW Hungary and Bulgaria after denying their claims. And that can lead to aligning Yugoslavia which makes up for losing those two. They have to DoW Bulgaria right away so the USSR can't align it.

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

Two quick questions.

1. AA guns. Can they target only planes that attack the hex they are in? Or do they have range? If range, what is range?

2. Assume a ME 109 fighter with a range of 3 and all rules being used + excellent weather. What is the range of intercept. Assume British bomber is attacking german city, how far can that me 109 fly to intercept?

Thanks guys

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Anti-aircraft units
Face-up in-supply anti-aircraft units can shoot at enemy aircraft flying a mission to the AA unit’s hex or to any adjacent hex (this represents the AA units being spread over a wider area).
Each AA unit can fire up to 4 times a step. It can fire 4 times at one hex, three times at one hex and once at another, etc. If you fire twice at one hex, double the unit’s AA value. If you fire 3 times at a hex, triple the unit’s AA value. If you fire 4 times at a hex, quadruple the unit’s AA value. You can add several AA units’ values together.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

, but I remember being told they have a different performance when ... facing four-engine bombers? I couldn't find the paragraph to support this but maybe someone knows.

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...If you fire 4 times at a hex, quadruple the unit’s AA value. You can add several AA units’ values together.
Example: Your 3-factor AA unit fires twice at one hex and twice at another. Your 1-factor unit fires once at the first hex and three times at the second. Therefore, you fire 7 AA factors at the first hex and 9 at the second.
Halve the AA factors fired by light AA units at a hex containing only LND that took 4 or more turns to produce.

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ORIGINAL: Joseignacio



Sh*t!

It was in the same rule I qouted:

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...If you fire 4 times at a hex, quadruple the unit’s AA value. You can add several AA units’ values together.
Example: Your 3-factor AA unit fires twice at one hex and twice at another. Your 1-factor unit fires once at the first hex and three times at the second. Therefore, you fire 7 AA factors at the first hex and 9 at the second.
Halve the AA factors fired by light AA units at a hex containing only LND that took 4 or more turns to produce.

I checked the whole RAW searching for "pink" AA the way he calls it all the time, however, here he uses "light" AA (only once in the RAW), that's why I couldn't find it.

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

4 questions:

1. Supply. Germans have Zhukov + 2 5-3 non elite infantry completely surrounding, russians in clear terrain, weather is fine. Russians are out of supply and disrupted. Am I correct that their combat value when I attack them is only 3, instead of 18? (8 + 5 + 5)

2. Same scenario above except this time Zhukov + 2 5-3 non elite infantry are in a city. out of supply + disrupted. What is their combat value when I attack them?

3. End of turns you get a window that asks if you want to destroy factories that I control. Why would I destroy them?

4. End of turn, during production, it looks to me that one of the things you can do is build a factory. Is this correct? Can I build a factory, thus increasing my production assuming I have resources for this? Also if this is correct why wouldnt I build a factory?

Thanks a bunch.

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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

4 questions:

1. Supply. Germans have Zhukov + 2 5-3 non elite infantry completely surrounding, russians in clear terrain, weather is fine. Russians are out of supply and disrupted. Am I correct that their combat value when I attack them is only 3, instead of 18? (8 + 5 + 5)

2. Same scenario above except this time Zhukov + 2 5-3 non elite infantry are in a city. out of supply + disrupted. What is their combat value when I attack them?

3. End of turns you get a window that asks if you want to destroy factories that I control. Why would I destroy them?

4. End of turn, during production, it looks to me that one of the things you can do is build a factory. Is this correct? Can I build a factory, thus increasing my production assuming I have resources for this? Also if this is correct why wouldnt I build a factory?

Thanks a bunch.

Not sure how all three would be stacked together here?

There's also an ability to do "Emergency Supply" with a non-disrupted HQ, wherein it can supply as many units as its re-org factor (but not itself or other HQs) but then it is disrupted.

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ORIGINAL: Azorn01

Question Global War. As Japan. I have 5 convoys in the Japanese Coast. I am at war with America. My issue is that I no longer need those 5 convoy points in that sea zone because the trade no longer exits. Yet, I cannot seem to move my convoy points as they are disorganized. Infact all my cp seem to be disorganized and I dont know why. Why are they disorganized and how do I move them to where I need them?