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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 7:48:49 PM   
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****************Corumn of Type II Ronsons, West of Pegu, Burma*************

Japan-mens tank commandah: <passes 2 Buddhist-mens monks> HEY! BUDDHIST-MENS KNOW WHERE GORDEN PAGODA?

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 8:03:32 PM   
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Imperiar G-ahds division on road to Rangoon.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 8:35:34 PM   
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It armost defy berief. Not-ah one attack by RAF. Onry crappy Dutch-mens destroyer.

Maybe srow down a rittah so Togo-san not-ah raise production standards everywhere.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 8:44:32 PM   
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************Feb. 4, 1942(d)************

Burma: Arried-mens compretery surprised when Imperiar Guard division show up without invitation yestahday. Everyone try to get out of Rangoon. Admirarh SPrio-san not issue written ordahs to commandah of Atago force so difficurt to get conviction in war crimes tribunarh aftah sinking arr of herpress ships/

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Nord, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
xAK Oregonian, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Paul Luckenbach, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


This time singurh Dutch destroyer not-ah get as unberievabry rucky as sistah ship at Rord Howe.
In fact, this-ah pretty much what-ah expect happen.

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 16,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
DD Piet Hein, Shell hits 16, and is sunk


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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 8:56:36 PM   
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Hory crap! Mandrake-san hope idiot in radio room Atago not-ah write down where ordahs come from.
At reast this-ah group have corvette with herpress ships.

ay Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
KV Jasmine, Shell hits 27, and is sunk
xAK Baroda, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Hoihow, Shell hits 29, and is sunk
xAK Hupeh, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
xAK Jaladurga, Shell hits 39, and is sunk
xAK Marion Moller, Shell hits 32, and is sunk


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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 8:58:27 PM   
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Prausiburh deniabirity. That-ah key!

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
HDML Pahalwan, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
HDML Panglima, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Pennigat, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
HDML Panji, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 9:02:46 PM   
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Nerrs fry up arr of way from Bangkok. Fighters at Rangoon stay on ground aftah Oscar fighter sweep yestahday.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Bassein at 50,52

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G3M2 Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Petronella, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires



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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 9:16:49 PM   
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Burma Rifurhs drop fancy rifurhs and run away. Probabry throw hand grenade in tent of British officah just for fun.

Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 22495 troops, 250 guns, 75 vehicles, Assault Value = 673

Defending force 2323 troops, 8 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 35

Japanese adjusted assault: 754

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 150 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Pegu !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1364 casualties reported
Squads: 70 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 66 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Units destroyed 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
21st Infantry Regiment
55th Infantry Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Field Artillery Regiment
21st JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
Railway BAF Battalion
3rd Burma Rifles Battalion
4th Burma Rifles Battalion
108th RAF Base Force

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 9:18:58 PM   
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Fiji: Arried-mens STIRR not-ah give up. This-ah rike rongest batturh in history.

Ground combat at Suva (132,160)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 15385 troops, 134 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 367

Defending force 6672 troops, 104 guns, 101 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Japanese adjusted assault: 193

Allied adjusted defense: 77

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
273 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
398 casualties reported
Squads: 27 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (2 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Assaulting units:
51st Naval Guard Unit
8th Tank Regiment
Kimura Det
144th Infantry Regiment
146th Infantry Regiment
52nd Naval Guard Unit
53rd Naval Guard Unit
15th Base Force

Defending units:
8th NZ Brigade
45th Base Group
1st RNZAF Base Force
131st Field Artillery Battalion
147th Field Artillery Battalion
148th Field Artillery Battalion
260th Field Artillery Battalion
Nandi Base Force

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 9:23:55 PM   
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Soromons Mandrake-san see Arried-mens ships near Southestern tip of Soromons yestahday. Recon pirot say turn around, go back to New Zearand or something. Mandrake-san think-ah that-ah burr **** so send out Hiryu from Rabaurh. Hehe.
Mandrake-san rearry tired of Arried-mens crusiers sneak up on Japan-mens ships.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 110,140

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N2 Kate x 22
D3A1 Val x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Crane
CL Achilles, Bomb hits 6, on fire
DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 1


and then...perhaps end of Achirres..get hit in heer by torpedo.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Rennell Island at 110,140

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N2 Kate x 14
D3A1 Val x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Achilles, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Crane, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 1, on fire




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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/20/2015 9:28:55 PM   
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Oz: Rot of exposions but mostry buirdings. 18th Div not-ah hurt very badry.

Night Naval bombardment of Bundaberg at 96,155

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
DD Suzukaze
DD Kasumi
DD Oshio
DD Tokitsukaze

Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 35
Port hits 18
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 3

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 6:45:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

************Feb. 4, 1942(d)************

Burma: Arried-mens compretery surprised when Imperiar Guard division show up without invitation yestahday. Everyone try to get out of Rangoon. Admirarh SPrio-san not issue written ordahs to commandah of Atago force so difficurt to get conviction in war crimes tribunarh aftah sinking arr of herpress ships/

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Nord, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
xAK Oregonian, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Paul Luckenbach, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk




Ha! They carry war suppries, we sink them. They go grub, grub.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 2:17:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

************Feb. 4, 1942(d)************

Burma: Arried-mens compretery surprised when Imperiar Guard division show up without invitation yestahday. Everyone try to get out of Rangoon. Admirarh SPrio-san not issue written ordahs to commandah of Atago force so difficurt to get conviction in war crimes tribunarh aftah sinking arr of herpress ships/

Day Time Surface Combat, near Rangoon at 52,54, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
CL Sendai
CL Isuzu
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hibiki
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Asagiri

Allied Ships
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Nord, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
xAK Oregonian, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Paul Luckenbach, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk




Ha! They carry war suppries, we sink them. They go grub, grub.


Perhaps defense attorney make argument that Japan-mens afraid of Arried-mens ship carred HMS Pansy.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 2:24:03 PM   
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*************Joint Allied War Crime Tribunal, Raffles Hotel, Singapore, 1947*************

Prosecutor: Captain Nakaoka, I'd like to take you back to Feb. 4, 1942 <looks at papers>...this would be "d", 1942(d). Is it your contention then that forces under your command were only responding to enemy fire?

Captain Nakaoka: HAI! Pansy shoot first.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 3:19:21 PM   
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Their doomed. No one would believe that a Pansy would be aggressive. Better to show a can of SPAM, claim those ships were carrying contraband

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 3:26:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Perhaps defense attorney make argument that Japan-mens afraid of Arried-mens ship carred HMS Pansy.


Hai! Sistah ships HMS Buttahcup and HMS Daisy have-ah reputation as rabbah rousahs!

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 4:31:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lecivius

Their doomed. No one would believe that a Pansy would be aggressive. Better to show a can of SPAM, claim those ships were carrying contraband


Not spam:






Attachment (1)

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 5:14:25 PM   
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Right! Nationarh pride requires that Great Britain have its own artery-crogging can of processed rips and a**horhes - Burry Beef!

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/21/2015 5:22:48 PM   
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I once took spam on a backpacking trip. Everyone mocked me for carrying the extra weight but after a couple of days of rehydrated pablum, jerkey and onion soup with 3mm noodles, you need a drool bib when you start frying up Spam.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/24/2015 2:17:15 PM   
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********DISASTER********


No, it-ah not one of carriers. SG I have big fight with GF and want to move back from San Diego.

SG I tarking about enristing in Navy.
Mandrake-san wondah if SG I rearize that would be given rots of orders and be subject to rots of rures...rike no smoking in magazine..no spitting in officah mess...no drink torpedo juice on duty..that-ah kind of thing.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/24/2015 9:05:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

********DISASTER********


No, it-ah not one of carriers. SG I have big fight with GF and want to move back from San Diego.


That-ah too bad. He's not assuming that he can come back home is he?

quote:


SG I tarking about enristing in Navy.


Hai! Encourage! Traver worrd over! Reave San Diego! Hai! Hai!

quote:


Mandrake-san wondah if SG I rearize that would be given rots of orders and be subject to rots of rures...rike no smoking in magazine..no spitting in officah mess...no drink torpedo juice on duty..that-ah kind of thing.

Shut-ah up! You no have to terr him this! Ret him figure out for serf. It-ah sound rike he need some time in birge with bucket to straighten him out. About 2 years oughta do it.

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For the Admiral - 1/26/2015 12:22:41 AM   
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Didn't know if you had heard this or not. As a Land Rover owner, I would be terrified too. Until the Range Rover came out, they were not something you drove fast on the road.

http://news.yahoo.com/queen-elizabeth-once-pranked-saudi-king-abdullah-bin-abdulaziz-222314592.html

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RE: For the Admiral - 1/27/2015 5:55:00 PM   
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Daughter of Mandrake-san send rist of wedding venues and pranning for guest rist of 200. 5 hr. hosted bar???!! Hory crap! That-ah crazy! Any Irish-mens not-ah make desert course.
Mandrake-san not-ah sure know names of 200 peopurh, even incruding names of Presidents.

Mandrake-san have to refinance home with rice paper warrs. It-ah arr on Mandrake-san because of prenuptial agreement. Damn-ah rawyers.

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RE: For the Admiral - 1/27/2015 5:58:35 PM   
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Mandrake-san need hosted bar in Seaside Virra...and not-ah even noon yet.

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RE: For the Admiral - 1/27/2015 6:50:39 PM   
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Hosted bar does not mean a fully stocked bar. One keg and a kid on the hand pump outta do it

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 1/27/2015 7:18:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I once took spam on a backpacking trip. Everyone mocked me for carrying the extra weight but after a couple of days of rehydrated pablum, jerkey and onion soup with 3mm noodles, you need a drool bib when you start frying up Spam.


+1

I used to take my best friends kids on stargazing campouts and they refused bacon and demanded I bring spam to fry up for them.

There is something nostalgia invoking about the smell of spam frying outdoors

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 2/6/2015 4:18:06 AM   
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News Frash

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NEWS: ARGENTINE PRESIDENT MAKES DIPLOMATIC GAFFE, TWEETS ABOUT CHINESE 'LICE AND PETLOLEUM'
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez, on a tour of China to strengthen ties as the economy teeters on the brink of a recession, appeared to commit a diplomatic blunder on Wednesday by poking fun at how the Chinese speak.


Haha. What-ah dinosaur. Argentina-womans make stupid joke from 1940's about China-mens.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 2/6/2015 4:23:08 AM   
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Mandrake-san give up fight and agree to have wedding for daughter at hoterh near Der Mar. Hoterh-womans who make reservations have MBA. Mandrake-san ask if have-ah someone with Associate Degree from Fresno St to see if cheaper. Now, have to find money. Any ideas for business opportunites?

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 2/6/2015 4:27:08 AM   
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Definitery best daughter out of two but stirr not sure worth that much money.

Probabry spend just as much money on othah daughter on car repairs and automobire insurance. Oh werr, rook rike Mandrake-san not-ah go to Paris and Normandy this year. Maybe Brisbane nice prace to visit.

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RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-pr... - 2/6/2015 4:19:01 PM   
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Have you considered brinksmanship? suggest that the two bundles of hundreds you happen to have with you would fund a wonderfully romantic eloping? otherwise the two bundles of hundreds will have to go to the MBA to hold the venue and no one will ever see them again...

the other option is trying the over-involved parent driving them to eloping- but that has a dangerous risk/reward curve.

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