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RE: Indian fightings - 10/17/2014 8:51:57 AM   
GreyJoy


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Here's a map of China. Unfortunately I don't have a updated save to take a decent screenshot, so I had to draw on a 5 days old screenshot... hope it is clear enough.

I see lots of possibilities now... rough terrain is what my tanks are waiting for!!!

I have the 1st Tank ID and 11 tank regiments for this task...




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RE: Indian fightings - 10/17/2014 9:04:37 AM   
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RnD: the A6M RnD program is going really well.
The A6MSen Baku should be available on 1/43, thus freeing up the upgrade path of 2x45planes Sentais (that are, at the moment, stuck with A6M2s)
The A6M5b should arrive by 2/43 and the A6M5c by 4/43.
By 6/43 I should be able to get the A6M8, which will be my major Navy fighter till SAM arrives.
Also the reach of the A6M8 will free up space for many many RnD factories... yet there will be hard decisions to take regarding supplies expenditure..will see
KI-43 IIIa should arrive by early 43 and the IV version soon after.

as soon as the A6M line will be finished I will focus on the Tony line (at the moment I got 2x30 factories working on the KI-61b and 3x30 -but not repaired- working on the KI-61c) Need to speed it up this line.

With PDU OFF the prespective is really different. You have to optimize a lot and focus on really not-key-models... the whole N1K line is close to meaningless in terms on numbers of Sentais involved. Won't really devote more than 3x30 factories to this line.
Even less to the J2M line. Only 2x30 factories. Sad but true.

SAM, on the other side, will be important, as important will be the KI-94. let's see what we'll be able to do...a lot will depend on how the war will go in the next key months

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/17/2014 10:52:11 AM   
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I see all those tank rgt in China and wonder if they would help you out more holding back the Allied in India. Once the Indian infantry gets their upgrades in early to mid-43, then they will get wiped out. But you have time to use them to great effect now. Same thoughts go through my head with all that Manchurian heavy artillery. The Allies don't have guns of that caliber while in China, the Allies have 75mm and maybe some 105mm.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/18/2014 2:10:15 AM   
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Banzai!

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/21/2014 6:44:43 PM   
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Sorry guys. Another set of hard days at work. Didn't have much time for the AAR...barely able to do a couple of turns a day.

But today, i thought i owned you this update.

31 October 1942, 46 miles west of Patna (India), the biggest battle in the war so far just happened...

Waves of sweeps and bombers both from the allies and from the Empire. Allies lost 90 planes, japan 72 (only 15 KIA!). Not bad.
Then the allied army launches a massed deliberate attack.
Despite the bug we've discovered (see tech forum), the battle went really well: 250 allied squads destroyed and more than 700 disabled! An entire Indian division is trashed, while only the 55th Japanese ID has taken more than 20% of disablement. We've lost 400 AVs but 90% of these are just disabled.
Now we're reinforcing Ranchi which is threatened by another allied Army...
Think erik overstimated the strenght of the allied army in this period of war...


Will try to make a more comprehensive report if the Lady falls asleep sooner than usual :-)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 31, 42

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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 6
A6M3a Zero x 23
A6M5 Zero x 57
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 56
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 50

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (12 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(23 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(23 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 16 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(21 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(18 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 34 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 32 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 29 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 29 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 4
A6M3a Zero x 21
A6M5 Zero x 55
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 15
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 50
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 39

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 34 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 15 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Raid is overhead
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 21 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
29 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 2
A6M3a Zero x 13
A6M5 Zero x 50
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 43
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 23

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
34 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 29 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 2
A6M3a Zero x 11
A6M5 Zero x 43
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 16

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 34 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Raid is overhead
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 29 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 1
A6M3a Zero x 11
A6M5 Zero x 31
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 39
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 24125.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 25000.
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
25 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25125.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
47th I.F.Chutai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 29 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 1
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 30
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 31
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 10

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed

CAP engaged:
2nd Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 25 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 25125.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
22 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 9
A6M5 Zero x 24
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
22 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 82 minutes
9th Sentai with Ki-44-IIb Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 25600 and 25763.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 22 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 27600.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 23763 and 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 22000 and 28600.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
A6M5 Zero x 1
G3M3 Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 6
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 2 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x G3M3 Nell bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 73rd Motorised Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 1
G4M1 Betty x 72
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 19th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 19th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 23rd Indian Division ...
Also attacking 19th Indian Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 50th Tank Brigade, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 117 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 23
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 32
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42
Ki-48-IIa Lily x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
5 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 75th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 20th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 85th British AT Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 75th Indian Brigade ...
Also attacking 50th Tank Brigade ...
Also attacking 75th Indian Brigade ...


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Morning Air attack on 3rd Carabiniers Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 102 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 1
A6M5 Zero x 22
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 47
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Indian Light AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Carabiniers Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Indian Light AA Regiment ...
Also attacking 3rd Carabiniers Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Indian Light AA Regiment ...



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Morning Air attack on 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 96 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 1
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on 26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 111 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 2
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 29
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 20000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 255th Armoured Brigade ...
Also attacking 26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
A6M5 Zero x 23
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16

Allied aircraft
A-29A Hudson x 12
SB-III x 18
Blenheim IV x 16
Hurricane IIa Trop x 10
Hurricane IIb Trop x 56
Mohawk IV x 16
Wellington Ic x 7
Kittyhawk IA x 6
A-20A1 Havoc x 11
A-29 Hudson x 15
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-26 Marauder x 11
P-400 Airacobra x 25
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-29A Hudson: 1 damaged
SB-III: 2 damaged
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Hurricane IIa Trop: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
Wellington Ic: 7 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 8 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x SB-III bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
12 x A-29A Hudson bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
7 x SB-III bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
13 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 9000 feet *
4 x Wellington Ic bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 9000 feet *
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x Kittyhawk IA sweeping at 9000 feet
11 x A-20A1 Havoc bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x A-29 Hudson bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
19 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 9000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 9000 feet
7 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 9000 feet
10 x P-400 Airacobra sweeping at 9000 feet

CAP engaged:
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 22 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
85th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 14 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 1000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
252 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 30000.
Raid is overhead
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 25000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes

Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Army ...
Also attacking 14th Army ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 4
A6M5 Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 22
P-38E Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet
4 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 13 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
Tainan Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 31440.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet
2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on 5th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 25
Hudson IIIa x 12
Hurricane IIb Trop x 16
Vengeance I x 16
Wellington Ic x 10
Kittyhawk IA x 6
B-18A Bolo x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-26 Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 5 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed by flak
Hudson IIIa: 3 damaged
Vengeance I: 2 damaged
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington Ic: 4 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
349 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
13 x Blenheim IV bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
10 x Wellington Ic bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x Vengeance I bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 5th Division ...
Also attacking 1st Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 33rd Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson IIIa x 12
B-18A Bolo x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26B Marauder x 12

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 3 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed by flak
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Hudson IIIa bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...
Also attacking 33rd Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 21st Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 41st Air Defense AA Battalion, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 10
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-39D Airacobra x 25

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
10 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...
Also attacking 41st Air Defense AA Battalion ...
Also attacking 48th Division ...
Also attacking 55th Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb


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Morning Air attack on 48th Division, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb




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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Area Army, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 25

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 20000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 27
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 39

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
45 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on 24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment, at 53,30 , near Patna

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet


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Ground combat at 53,30 (near Patna)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 110186 troops, 1410 guns, 2286 vehicles, Assault Value = 3684

Defending force 115744 troops, 1182 guns, 819 vehicles, Assault Value = 3162

Allied adjusted assault: 1456

Japanese adjusted defense: 3074

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4526 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 272 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 191 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 47 disabled
Guns lost 155 (24 destroyed, 131 disabled)
Vehicles lost 133 (11 destroyed, 122 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
11883 casualties reported
Squads: 250 destroyed, 798 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 304 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 106 disabled
Guns lost 158 (20 destroyed, 138 disabled)
Vehicles lost 303 (52 destroyed, 251 disabled)

Assaulting units:
14th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
50th Tank Brigade
23rd Indian Division
762nd Tank Battalion
75th Indian Brigade
7th Australian Division
22nd (East African) Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
267th Armoured Brigade
63rd Indian Brigade
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
73rd Motorised Brigade
75th IAC Regiment
70th British Division
26th Indian Division
6th Medium Regiment
251st Coast AA Regiment
1st USMC AA Battalion
2/11th Field Regiment
1st Indian Light AA Regiment
260th Coast AA Regiment
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
2/9th Field Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
93rd Coast AA Regiment
26th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
55th Division
24th Ind Engineer Regiment
21st Division
48th Division
14th Tank Regiment
5th Division
22nd Ind Engineer Regiment
33rd Division
22nd Tank Regiment
1st Division
2nd Division
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
29th Ind Engineer Regiment
12th Air Defense AA Regiment
2nd Area Army
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
3rd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
15th Air Defense AA Regiment
14th Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Air Defense AA Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
54th Field AA Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
21st Army






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RE: Indian fightings - 10/21/2014 7:33:15 PM   
Sangeli


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That's a serious bloody nose at Patna the Allies just took. Battles like that make the Indian fight worth your time as the Allies cannot replace those losses (although they get plenty of new units of course). The inevitable push on Burma will have 250 AV less than it would have otherwise.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 5:40:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sangeli

That's a serious bloody nose at Patna the Allies just took. Battles like that make the Indian fight worth your time as the Allies cannot replace those losses (although they get plenty of new units of course). The inevitable push on Burma will have 250 AV less than it would have otherwise.


Yes, i've been on that side and know how poor are the replacements rates for british units (and, to a lesser extend, indian ones). That was my goal: fight a delaying action while bleeding the enemy's weak spot. To breakthrough here he will need the American Divisions and that will mean that there will be less of those precious units fighting in the pacific.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 5:44:46 AM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I see all those tank rgt in China and wonder if they would help you out more holding back the Allied in India. Once the Indian infantry gets their upgrades in early to mid-43, then they will get wiped out. But you have time to use them to great effect now. Same thoughts go through my head with all that Manchurian heavy artillery. The Allies don't have guns of that caliber while in China, the Allies have 75mm and maybe some 105mm.



yes Micheal, i've been thinking about that too for many many months. The "Sian tragedy" completely threw me off in terms of strategy...by now i had planned to have conquered half of China and be able to send my reserves to India to counter the allied moves....unfortunately i had to change my plans as we know
Now India is just an expensive delaying action theatre, while China is more strategic for the overall war effort, imho. Also in China i am still on the offensive, an tanks and heavy arty are a MUST, while in India i am on the defensive side and the tanks are less critical...even if they would be usefull, i know...
But i had to make a choice and chose to keep the tanks there, where they can be devastating against the Chinese units and can exploit their mobility without being threatened by the allied bombers

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 5:53:49 AM   
GreyJoy


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Allied ground losses:
11883 casualties reported
Squads: 250 destroyed, 798 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 304 disabled
Engineers: 18 destroyed, 106 disabled
Guns lost 158 (20 destroyed, 138 disabled)
Vehicles lost 303 (52 destroyed, 251 disabled)


So how much is that? One division worth of troops destroyed and two and half more disabled, right? Let's say 1300/1500 AVs out of action for a while. That should buy me some more time to consolidate my defences and bring some more reserves to the front. I should be able to buy another ID and send it there in a week...

November has arrived:
Nick KI-45c enters in production, along with the D1Y1 (cool!). The Oscar IIIa, A6M5b and A6M2Sen Baku are all accelerating fast. The KI-44 IIc is also moving along nicely and will be very important in 1943 (quite a good number of new groups upgrades to it!).


Madras is now isolated from Calcutta. I won't be leaving it untill the very last moment. Untill Ceylon and Madras are mine, the Bay of Bengal will be Japanese and Burma's flank will be safe

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 7:07:08 AM   
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Forgot to say that the air battle of the 31st October also saw the baptism of fire for the brand new KI-44 IIb (2 groups operating in India).
The new plane did a good job, collecting 15 kills in 2 groups and losing only 5 planes against the waves of allied sweeps.
Gotta admit that I am starting to like it pretty much.
It seems to be better than the IIa version, even if nobody produces it.
As you know, I am forced to produce it because of PDU OFF setting, but I do see the lights of this plane, even if it has its shadows obviously.
It has 2 heavy MGs centerlined, while the IIa version has them on the wings (F).
Its 40mm cannons, even if they have a ****ty accurancy, can, every now and then, down a bomber, which is better than the 2 7.7mm MGs of the IIa version.

I have completely stopped producing the IIa version and producing 100 IIb while R&D the IIc type.
Will use the IIa stocks until they run dry (350 of them among pools and active squadrons)

The KI-61 Ia, which is already available since half Sept, hasn't seen a single battle yet. Its SR=3 makes it really hard to handle everywhere but at Calcutta, which is still pretty far from the front line. I'm keeping it as a defensive fighter, combining with the KI-45a and KI-45c in rear-big bases. We'll see how it will perform when we're gonna need it. For the moment I am only using SR=1 fighters in India, so to be able to rotate the squadrons in and out after every battle. It is working so far...




The butcher's bill of the day in the air. Can't complain. Also because I've had ONLY 15 KIA and 16 WIA pilots today. Really not bad, considering we were on LRCAP against his sweeps!

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 10:05:49 AM   
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This is interesting.

There is a cut-off point somewhere in repair time for aircraft. Basically, any aircraft with durability of 0-29 and service rating 1 will be repaired in one day! There is no durability 30/service rating 1 aircraft to check if the repair time jumps to two days, but durability >30 and service rating 1 gives you a 2 day repair time. I guess at this point your best fighter for continuous operations will be Tojo, followed by Oscar and Zeros.

The perfect fighter should have durability 29, service rating 1, armor 1 and as many CL weapons as possible.

Given the above, it is funny, how good Oscar IIb actually is - its only drawbacks is its low durability. I tested them in the Andaman scenario and I could keep continuous CAP with them for many days against waves of 4Es and I barely had the required aviation support at the base. I guess if you could double the aviation support for them, the turnover would be even faster.

Durability >30 and service rating 2 or 3 is a nightmare. This is why the Nicks, which look good on paper with their high durability and CL weapons, are such maintenance hogs.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 12:50:05 PM   
GreyJoy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yaab

This is interesting.

There is a cut-off point somewhere in repair time for aircraft. Basically, any aircraft with durability of 0-29 and service rating 1 will be repaired in one day! There is no durability 30/service rating 1 aircraft to check if the repair time jumps to two days, but durability >30 and service rating 1 gives you a 2 day repair time. I guess at this point your best fighter for continuous operations will be Tojo, followed by Oscar and Zeros.

The perfect fighter should have durability 29, service rating 1, armor 1 and as many CL weapons as possible.

Given the above, it is funny, how good Oscar IIb actually is - its only drawbacks is its low durability. I tested them in the Andaman scenario and I could keep continuous CAP with them for many days against waves of 4Es and I barely had the required aviation support at the base. I guess if you could double the aviation support for them, the turnover would be even faster.

Durability >30 and service rating 2 or 3 is a nightmare. This is why the Nicks, which look good on paper with their high durability and CL weapons, are such maintenance hogs.



The armoured Oscar IIb is performing pretty well so far for me. Obviously against 4Es finds itself at a clear disadvantage, but against fighters and 2E bombers it is performing just fine. Can't complain, really.
After every battle i transfer/rail out every single sentai that took place in it. In two days the Tojo/Zero/Oscar sentais are again at 100% strenght/availability at Calcutta, also considering the new plane bought in to compensate the losses. While the same number of fresh sentais with non-fatigued pilots are brought into the first line (Patna, Ranchi, Jamesphur).
It is working really well so far for me. The SR=2 and 3 planes (KI-45 and KI-61) remain at Calcutta to guard the big HUB-Base from any attempt to ruin this working strategy.
To be honest, i gotta say that this is the perfect playground for my limited air force (PDU OFF), with all the bases connected by railways and the line of fire pretty close to my bases (so that even a LRCAP mission don't completely fatigue my pilots).
Will try to make it last as long as possible. The more i drain his pools here, the less he'll be able to throw at me later on.


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RE: Indian fightings - 10/22/2014 4:15:00 PM   
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Seeing the number of American units in your combat report should make you feel good. Right now, I'm using a full division, either an American rgt or Aussie/NZ brigade, and multiple tank battalions with artillery and combat engineers for each invasion in the Pacific. Having to face them here is a good thing right now. There were 6 Americans in that attack, so there has to be more stread all over India. He will need to switch over to a more Pacific focused attack relatively soon, I would think.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 11:19:44 AM   
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Seeing the number of American units in your combat report should make you feel good. Right now, I'm using a full division, either an American rgt or Aussie/NZ brigade, and multiple tank battalions with artillery and combat engineers for each invasion in the Pacific. Having to face them here is a good thing right now. There were 6 Americans in that attack, so there has to be more stread all over India. He will need to switch over to a more Pacific focused attack relatively soon, I would think.



Hi Micheal,

there are no BIG american units in India as far as i can tell. A couple of Sep Regiments and some tanks, nothing serious.
The 32nd US ID is at Tulagi.
The 25th US ID was in Oz in march, so i guess the rest of the free american divisions (Marines included) are in the pacific, preparing for the next push...



Nov 1-4, 1942

After the defeat at Patna, the allies decide to reinforce the position. Another 65,000 men strong Army is advancing. We're getting ready for another push, with more units arriving close by. We've reinforced the Ranchi sector and the units are now all rested and 3,000 AVs are ready to fight again.
120,000 supplies are arriving from Singapore,while the Air units are all rested and 100% ready for another battle
The allies finally discover that everything west of Calcutta has been vacated (except for Madras) and para-drop troops to take back the empty Hyderabad and the nearby bases. A pity to abbandon territory without fighting, but Japan cannot defend all unfortunately.
Paras are moving to conquer the bases in the Adamans still in allied hands (empty)

OZ: heavy recon over Kalkoorite and Esperance. He must have noticed i have moved back the bulk of the 16th Army that occupied western Oz... ships are also spotted moving West from Melbourne...mmmm.... 180 bombers and 200 fighters are ready at Perth and 2 strong SCTFs are moving into position. The KB-1 in Indian Ocean is moving south towards Exmouth, in case he tries something sneaky down there.

SOPAC: Lunga garrison is now encircled and the allies are building fast their bases in the lower Solomons. At the same time they are getting ready for Makin, bombed every day. Nauru Island has been heavily bombed too, by 2 strong cruiser TFs. I'd like to let him feel confortable here. Bombers and fighters are moved to Roi-Namur with an Air HQ and the CVs with Tanaka and his BB/CAs are waiting in the shadows. No sign of the allied CVs. I just know that the wasp is somewhere hidden near Suva...

China: very active. The Changsha basin is now isolated.No more fuel will arrive here to feed the HI. The tanks are now pushing on both sides of Kweyang, even if my left wing keeps on having problems with supplies and, at least for the moment, can't attack without a complete air support. The air support is limited because he has at least 100 good fighters in China that ambush my bombing runs, so i have to be very carefull. A brand new KI-44b sentai is operating now in China. Will probably move it to India soon, but i'd like to show it to him here first.

HA-45 engines are now operative, along with the HA-44s. Good. Will need a lot of them!

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 12:21:44 PM   
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China: very active. The Changsha basin is now isolated.No more fuel will arrive here to feed the HI.


Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I prefer the northern approaches when attacking in China. IMO, it makes the Chinese supply situation worse to deny his HI access to fuel to generate supplies. It also gains Japan more fuel.

Central & South Pacific - Need to be aggressive here, but not foolish to get your licks in now vs Allied navy before it gets too big. Good luck here counselor!

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 12:52:52 PM   
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China: very active. The Changsha basin is now isolated.No more fuel will arrive here to feed the HI.


Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I prefer the northern approaches when attacking in China. IMO, it makes the Chinese supply situation worse to deny his HI access to fuel to generate supplies. It also gains Japan more fuel.

Central & South Pacific - Need to be aggressive here, but not foolish to get your licks in now vs Allied navy before it gets too big. Good luck here counselor!


CHINA: i agree. Actually the original plan was to advance in the north first, and then, only then, to take care of the central front. The huge defeat suffered at Sian changed completely the equation and forced me to accelerate the plans for the centre, before the Indian air bridge will be open again. Now the plan is to cut China in three (West, Centre, North) before India will be able to feed again the chinese troops. That's why i'm concentrating most of my efforts in the centre now.
It's harder and longer, i know, but i see no other choices now.

SOPAC: yes, true, but it is also true that it is there where the IJN impaled itselef in RL, defending and figthing for places that had no real strategic value. I am trying not to make the same mistake, drawing my personal "line in the sand" way back. Think that only time will tell if i am doing it wrong or not

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 1:46:45 PM   
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Here's an updated map of China:

As you can see, We've been pushing as hard as possible to cut the enemy's central front in two pieces. The operation launched this summer managed to unlock the situation in the south, but to break Chikkiang front it took me 4 months of heavy fightings.
Now, however, the Changsha basin is isolated and at least 220,000 good Chinese troops are trapped there. This is important cause those good-well-fed corps won't be able to defend Kweyang.
The idea now is to squeeze the Kweiyang front, forcing him to commit all his reserves. The tanks will be my spear, while the heavy artillery the hammer.
Once (and if) Kweiyang will fall, we will be able to drive to the plains and, above all, cut the road that connects Kunming to Chungking, so even if the India front will be shattered and the air bridge re-stabilished, Erik will only be able to feed the three bases in the western mountains.
Don't really know where and when i'll be forced to stop. China is draining my supply stockpiles a lot and, sooner or later, i'll be needing all those good divisions somewhere else.
But, for the moment, I wanna keep on pushing!






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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 2:18:23 PM   
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It is crazy to think that more than any other, the defining event in this game so far, the one with the most consequences, has been the Sian debacle... Without it you would have taken care of China a lot more easily, have had troops to spare (tanks and arty) for more offensive operations in India, be more ready to defend your perimeter and started saving a lot more supply.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 2:34:15 PM   
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It is crazy to think that more than any other, the defining event in this game so far, the one with the most consequences, has been the Sian debacle... Without it you would have taken care of China a lot more easily, have had troops to spare (tanks and arty) for more offensive operations in India, be more ready to defend your perimeter and started saving a lot more supply.



Is it a question or a statement?
If it's a statement, it's the word "crazy" that I don't understand in the context. Sian debacle (loss of nearly 50,000 men in two days), forced me to change the whole strategy in china, and so in India/oz.
For sure, if Sian had fallen in early 1942, China would be by now mostly under my control and I could have been able to use all those tanks in India or Oz.
Instead, I had to change the whole general plan and concentrate on an alternative strategy for China.
I have a great respect and fear of a strong China in late 1944 and I know that if I don't take care of it NOW, the great tiger is gonna bite me back right when the americans will be knocking at the very gates of Japan...

I know most of you think I'm wasting my resources into a minor theatre (got some PMs about that), while the real war is somewhere else, but I do believe that china, after Burma, is the second most important theatre of war. A place where Japan cannot efford to lose

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/23/2014 4:22:11 PM   
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It is crazy to think that more than any other, the defining event in this game so far, the one with the most consequences, has been the Sian debacle... Without it you would have taken care of China a lot more easily, have had troops to spare (tanks and arty) for more offensive operations in India, be more ready to defend your perimeter and started saving a lot more supply.



Is it a question or a statement?
If it's a statement, it's the word "crazy" that I don't understand in the context. Sian debacle (loss of nearly 50,000 men in two days), forced me to change the whole strategy in china, and so in India/oz.
For sure, if Sian had fallen in early 1942, China would be by now mostly under my control and I could have been able to use all those tanks in India or Oz.
Instead, I had to change the whole general plan and concentrate on an alternative strategy for China.
I have a great respect and fear of a strong China in late 1944 and I know that if I don't take care of it NOW, the great tiger is gonna bite me back right when the americans will be knocking at the very gates of Japan...

I know most of you think I'm wasting my resources into a minor theatre (got some PMs about that), while the real war is somewhere else, but I do believe that china, after Burma, is the second most important theatre of war. A place where Japan cannot efford to lose


Sorry mate, I didn't mean to sound aggressive or harsh. Crazay in that context meant "interesting, counterintuitive". What I meant is that in such a game we think what matters is the pacific, etc, but in your game the Sian debacle had a domino effect on your abilities and altered your strategy. I am not saying you haven't adapted nor criticizing your game, considering the problem it creates you are doing your best and it is very interesting to watch.

Really "crazy" wasn't criticism at all, sorry for misphrasing it.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/24/2014 12:11:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: veji1

It is crazy to think that more than any other, the defining event in this game so far, the one with the most consequences, has been the Sian debacle... Without it you would have taken care of China a lot more easily, have had troops to spare (tanks and arty) for more offensive operations in India, be more ready to defend your perimeter and started saving a lot more supply.



Is it a question or a statement?
If it's a statement, it's the word "crazy" that I don't understand in the context. Sian debacle (loss of nearly 50,000 men in two days), forced me to change the whole strategy in china, and so in India/oz.
For sure, if Sian had fallen in early 1942, China would be by now mostly under my control and I could have been able to use all those tanks in India or Oz.
Instead, I had to change the whole general plan and concentrate on an alternative strategy for China.
I have a great respect and fear of a strong China in late 1944 and I know that if I don't take care of it NOW, the great tiger is gonna bite me back right when the americans will be knocking at the very gates of Japan...

I know most of you think I'm wasting my resources into a minor theatre (got some PMs about that), while the real war is somewhere else, but I do believe that china, after Burma, is the second most important theatre of war. A place where Japan cannot efford to lose


You are right here. China is the one attrition battle that the Japanese player must accept. There can be no dig in and wait strategy. You have to take Chungking and Langchow-no question about it. And if you can't defeat the Chinese it is best if you can push them far to the West. But the real key to China is holding Burma and India. You should be able to do that for a while. The Allies can do nothing offensively in China until the supply route is open. A bigger threat in my experience is Allied landings on the coast of China late in the war. This is very tough to defend against.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/24/2014 1:10:26 AM   
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I think you can still do well in China. You should have extra time with Burma nice and safe with you Indian adventures.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/24/2014 8:25:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy


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ORIGINAL: veji1

It is crazy to think that more than any other, the defining event in this game so far, the one with the most consequences, has been the Sian debacle... Without it you would have taken care of China a lot more easily, have had troops to spare (tanks and arty) for more offensive operations in India, be more ready to defend your perimeter and started saving a lot more supply.



Is it a question or a statement?
If it's a statement, it's the word "crazy" that I don't understand in the context. Sian debacle (loss of nearly 50,000 men in two days), forced me to change the whole strategy in china, and so in India/oz.
For sure, if Sian had fallen in early 1942, China would be by now mostly under my control and I could have been able to use all those tanks in India or Oz.
Instead, I had to change the whole general plan and concentrate on an alternative strategy for China.
I have a great respect and fear of a strong China in late 1944 and I know that if I don't take care of it NOW, the great tiger is gonna bite me back right when the americans will be knocking at the very gates of Japan...

I know most of you think I'm wasting my resources into a minor theatre (got some PMs about that), while the real war is somewhere else, but I do believe that china, after Burma, is the second most important theatre of war. A place where Japan cannot efford to lose


Sorry mate, I didn't mean to sound aggressive or harsh. Crazay in that context meant "interesting, counterintuitive". What I meant is that in such a game we think what matters is the pacific, etc, but in your game the Sian debacle had a domino effect on your abilities and altered your strategy. I am not saying you haven't adapted nor criticizing your game, considering the problem it creates you are doing your best and it is very interesting to watch.

Really "crazy" wasn't criticism at all, sorry for misphrasing it.



Don't worry Veji! Didn't take it personal! It just was clear to me if it was a question or not

Yes, Sian debacle was a turning point in this war. It meant a way stronger Chinese Army in early 1942 (also considering our HR about strat bombing), with all the flow of fuel to the Chinese HI and the supplies so generated, and, above all, it meant that Japan suddenly had to divert a considerable amount of forces (at least 4 Divisions,10 tank regiments,, 20 heavy artillery units, 130 fighters and 250 bombers) that should have been used to solidify the SOPAC/CENTPAC perimeter and the gains in India.
Because of Sian, we had to move back our expectations and fall back, slowly but steady, in India, Sopac and Centpac, simply because we didn't anymore the units to defend the initial gains there.
The alternative was to stop every offensive in China and transfer all those assets in the front-line theatres... but I decided not to because I am pretty sure that an untouched China will bite me back in the arse in late 1943 and, by that time, my ability to counter it would have been pretty minimal.
So I decided to concentrate on Central China and to keep the eastern India gains as long as possible, thus denying the air-bridge from Ledo as long as possible.
Hopefully, by the time I will be forced to abandon India, the Central China will be neutralized and so the menace contained


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RE: Indian fightings - 10/24/2014 8:29:40 AM   
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You are right here. China is the one attrition battle that the Japanese player must accept. There can be no dig in and wait strategy. You have to take Chungking and Langchow-no question about it. And if you can't defeat the Chinese it is best if you can push them far to the West. But the real key to China is holding Burma and India. You should be able to do that for a while. The Allies can do nothing offensively in China until the supply route is open. A bigger threat in my experience is Allied landings on the coast of China late in the war. This is very tough to defend against.



Well, Chungking I believe is out of question in this game. If I will ever be able to siege it and starve it that would be already a BIG win for me.
The real strategic goal now is to get to the plains and cut the connection between Chungking and Kunming and between Chungking and Lanchow. If I can cut China in three pieces, then, I think, we'll be fine.

Let's see...

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/25/2014 7:28:51 AM   
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Nov 05-07, 42

India: everything is quiet after the last big battle of the 31st of October. Instead the allied army gets out of the hex 53:30 and moves back to an uncontested hex. Don't know if he has abbandoned completely the idea of facing me directly there, but that's a big news for me!
The Japanese army is now fully operational and rested. There have been no air attacks since then, so my air force got back to its max. The second (and last) sentai of 42 planes has managed this week to upgrade to the KI-61a, so now all my units are up to their best possible upgrade step.
Don't really know what Erik has in mind...is he just grouping back in order to attack again stronger? Or is he shifting direction of his attentions to the western India? I've seen a couple of arrows from Allalabad moving west...which may mean he's transfering some support units to the Madras front...
Anyway, this is all good time gained for me. If i can hold untill jan 1943, my major goal will be achieved.
In the meanwhile a big supply convoy has reached India... that's good obviously.

China: a couple of 1-2 on both sides of Kweyang. On the west side, the tanks tried their luck, but got stopped by the strong enemy positions. Supplies are always in red in that sector and i can only attack once every10 days (with never more than 50% of the needed supplies).
On the eastern side of the Kweyang sector, the "artillery army" got a bad bloody nose... need to start all over again, rotating units in and out... oh well...

NOPAC: a lonely AM, sent by Erik south of the Kuriles to test my search capabilities, have been intercepted by the CL Oi and her escort and sunk. Need to pay more attention here...

OZ: a british DD is scouting the waters around Esperance. We are on max allert here.

SOPAC: The allies keep on building their perimeter. 4 bases around Tulagi have now been conquered and being built.

CENTPAC: after the bomabrdments of Nauru Island by his cruisers, the americans sent 3 groups of unescorted B-25s... they got intercepted by a sentai of A6M2s, which downed 22 bombers. The following days the P-38s arrived sweeping, and butchered by zeros. 8-1 in their favour but only 1 pilot KIA luckly.


Allied CVs: i have yet to discover where those bastards are. For sure the Wasp is in SOPAC and my subs spotted what seemed to be a CV TF near Karachi last week. Unfortunately we couldn't determine how many of them were there and, above all, if those were just britsh CVL/CV (Hermes and friends) or the whole lot of the american CVs... so we must be carefull. In any case, i have moved 3 more groups of Netties to Colombo, along with 100 more fighters...just to be sure. 90 Vals and 45 Kates are already operating between Diego and Colombo, while Ceylon has been reinforced with 2 more divisions.


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RE: Indian fightings - 10/26/2014 8:00:49 AM   
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The air battle of Madras

Nov 09, 42

As the allies retire the bulk of their armies from Patna (leaving beyond the river approx 120,000 men), their greedy eyes move towards Madras, the last japanese fortress in the western side of India.
on the 8th we've spotted 60 fighters popping up at Bengalore...which meant only one thing: Madras was their next target.
The CAP has been raised to 50% and, as predicted, the next day the battle begun!
Despite the heavy storms that were present in the hex, the allies pushed in with their planned offensive.
LRCAP+SWEEP+heavy escorted 4Es raid.
It was a massacre for the Liberators!
My CAP did well, just suffering heavily from the P-38s sweeps that arrived later in the day, when the fortresses have already went away. Coordination was lacking this time for Erik, surely because of the bad weather...
Flak did a wonderfull job, downing nearly 15 bombers, while more 35 were downed by the fighters.
Overall a very good day. Lost some good pilots, but the airbase is safe and operative and the squadrons are being rotated as usual.
If he comes back tomorrow he's gonna have more surprises
This is exactly the kind of battles i'm looking for playing Japan, where i can train my pilots and inflict severe losses to the allied limited pools...


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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 25
A6M3a Zero x 43
A6M5 Zero x 71
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 66

Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 9
B-24D Liberator x 36
P-40E Warhawk x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
B-24D Liberator: 8 destroyed, 23 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
253 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 21 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
15 planes vectored on to bombers
251 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (7 airborne, 15 on standby, 21 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
32 planes vectored on to bombers
582 Ku S-1 with A6M3 Zero (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 15 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
22 planes vectored on to bombers
264th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 18 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
26 planes vectored on to bombers
286 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (6 airborne, 12 on standby, 18 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
20 planes vectored on to bombers

Kawakubo O. in a A6M5 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation
Maki, Y. in a A6M3a Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation


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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
A6M3a Zero x 37
A6M5 Zero x 66
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 54

Allied aircraft
P-66 Vanguard x 4
B-17F Fortress x 4
B-24D Liberator x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
P-66 Vanguard: 1 destroyed
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
B-24D Liberator: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
A6M3a Zero x 34
A6M5 Zero x 61
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 49

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak

Runway hits 2


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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
A6M3a Zero x 31
A6M5 Zero x 60
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 48

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed

Runway hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 12
A6M3a Zero x 29
A6M5 Zero x 51
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 45

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 10
A6M3a Zero x 28
A6M5 Zero x 50
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 44

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 7 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1


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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 8
A6M3a Zero x 25
A6M5 Zero x 36
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 35

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 7
P-38F Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses


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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 5
A6M3a Zero x 16
A6M5 Zero x 25
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 49
F4F-4 Wildcat x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed









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RE: Indian fightings - 10/26/2014 8:01:47 AM   
GreyJoy


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And here's the butcher's bill of the day.
Not bad






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RE: Indian fightings - 10/26/2014 8:06:34 AM   
GreyJoy


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These battles become a factory producing good pilots. These will be needed when the allied war machine will start producing P-47s and Hellcats.

Lost 22 Pilots KIA in this battle and 17 WIA, but only 2 aces lost their lives today, and they are replaced by others bcoming good enough. It's a good trade imho


PO1 Okano J. of 582 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Sugiyama L. of 582 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Fujimatsu U. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 5
PO1 Fujimatsu U. of 286 Ku S-1 attains ace status!!
WO Nishihata L. of 264th Sentai is credited with kill number 3
CPO Nagashima T. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 6
CPO Kawakami B. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 6
PO2 Kusumoto V. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 5
PO2 Kusumoto V. of 286 Ku S-1 attains ace status!!
PO2 Kusumoto V. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 6
PO2 Kaneko T. of 582 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Chono R. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
WO Shimizu, K. of 21st Sentai is credited with kill number 2
PO1 Ide, S. of 253 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Kaneko U. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Chiyoshima R. of 253 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
CPO Fujimatsu P. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 8
WO Iwaya J. of 264th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
PO2 Minowa D. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO1 Kawakubo O. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 5
PO1 Kawakubo O. of 286 Ku S-1 attains ace status!!
PO1 Obayashi W. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 5
PO1 Obayashi W. of 286 Ku S-1 attains ace status!!
PO2 Muranaka B. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
PO2 Hirata S. of 253 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
PO1 Matsunaga T. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
WO Renzo B. of 21st Sentai is credited with kill number 2
2LT Hyakutake H. of 264th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
PO1 Nakajima S. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
2LT Ishihara V. of 264th Sentai is credited with kill number 2
WO Koda V. of 21st Sentai is credited with kill number 3
A6M3a Zero from 251 Ku S-1 is written off
WO Handa, W. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 3
A6M5 Zero from 286 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M3a Zero from 251 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off
LT Shibuya, K. of 251 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
A6M3 Zero from 582 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 286 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 286 Ku S-1 is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off
PO1 Kawato W. of 286 Ku S-1 is credited with kill number 2
A6M3a Zero from 251 Ku S-1 is written off
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 264th Sentai crashes on landing
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 264th Sentai is written off
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 21st Sentai is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is damaged on landing
Damaged A6M5 Zero from 286 Ku S-1 is missing, pilot reported killed
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off
Damaged A6M3a Zero from 251 Ku S-1 shot down on way home, pilot reported killed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 21st Sentai is written off
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 21st Sentai is written off
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 264th Sentai is written off
Ki-45 KAIa Nick from 21st Sentai is written off
A6M5 Zero from 253 Ku S-1 is written off


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RE: Indian fightings - 10/26/2014 11:20:27 AM   
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That was a very good day for you Nic. The Allies don't have the B-24 production numbers to replace those losses until 2/43. That is one whole BG (48 planes) now out of action.

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RE: Indian fightings - 10/26/2014 12:35:51 PM   
Yaab


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Kawakubo O. in a A6M5 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation
Maki, Y. in a A6M3a Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-24D Liberator out of formation


Out of formation? Nice touch.

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