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OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 10:02:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just watched Tora Tora Tora for the first time in about 25 Years. You can really see the hard work the producers put into that movie. Dispite its age, its still got it. A lot of the little details are covered well. Anybody else see it lately? GP

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 10:09:06 PM   
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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 10:18:25 PM   
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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 11:08:11 PM   
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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 11:26:04 PM   
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No, but I did watch Letters from Iwo Jima again after a few years, and I remembered why I remember that film better than the film showing the American perspective.


I agree the movie from the Japanese side is so much better. It was much better in so many ways. I watch it from time to time.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/13/2014 11:53:36 PM   
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Just watched Tora Tora Tora for the first time in about 25 Years. You can really see the hard work the producers put into that movie. Dispite its age, its still got it. A lot of the little details are covered well. Anybody else see it lately? GP


Got it for christmas on DvD in 2013. Great movie. When my son is old enough I hope to watch it with him one day.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/14/2014 3:23:15 AM   
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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/14/2014 6:18:25 AM   
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Tora, Tora, Tora? Not as good as Pearl Harbor, but okay.


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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/14/2014 8:51:47 AM   
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Tora, Tora, Tora? Not as good as Pearl Harbor, but okay.


From now on, each time I start a new game I will send HMS Warspite on a suicide run deep into Japanese territory!

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/14/2014 4:36:56 PM   
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Tora, Tora, Tora? Not as good as Pearl Harbor, but okay.


For this i will create miniscenario in which warspite will be sink everytime by pt boats.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/14/2014 4:40:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have it on Blu-ray still one of my favorites. I Can't stomach TMTSNBN, I get mad every time I watch that pile of flotsam. Not just the history perspective but the violations of physics ect. I love aircraft flying feet off the ground with wings completely vertical and not sliding into the ground, I'm so glad that whole lift thing I learned was completely wrong, that means that the wings on aircraft are for aesthetics purposes only. I also love how they tried to portray the bombs as somehow malevolent in terms of their detonations whether true or not - somehow they missed the opportunity for a 10 minute delay to allow the whole ships company to stand over the yards wide crater just before it explodes. As many others have said it's a triangle love story that just happens to be set during the time in question and the story was the triangle and historical setting was purely coincidental (as was the unnecessary things like history).

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/15/2014 3:01:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Tora, Tora, Tora? Not as good as Pearl Harbor, but okay.


I think this is called British humor.

It is also why the colonies revolted in 1776.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/21/2014 9:00:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I watch Tora^3 at least twice a year. I like it for its authenticity (more than can usually be expected from Hollywood) and the focus on the events leading up to the war. I'm at a point where battle scenes get boring quickly (in fact, even this one could have nearly a half-hour cut from the end and it would still have its appeal). Another favorite for the same reason is Twelve O'Clock High.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/21/2014 11:45:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Watched it a month or two ago, I believe on Netflix's.

I also this past weekend watched Flags of our fathers. American prospective on Iwo Jima. The special effects, the transport fleet and the battleships bombarding the Island. Top Notch! Had me thinking someone with todays tech and special effects could make a great Naval War movie.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 12:27:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw it with my eldest son during our summer holydays (January and February here in the southern hemisphere), and in English (That is not our language), the idea is to expose him to English and to good, historically accurate and well produced movies.

He was amazed and ecstatic about it, He's 14 and from a generation used to spectacular special effects and CGI. Now he's asking for more and we have watched since then Battle of Midway, Sink the Bismarck, Patton, In which we serve, the Dam Busters and Zulu.

The result is that now he cares more to read about the facts of the story told in the movie, about the acting and how the story is unfolded.

I must say that I´m quite proud of him, and is really rewarding to share with him my interest in military history.

The downside is that he doesn´t care about WITP.


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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 2:09:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Maglio

I saw it with my eldest son during our summer holydays (January and February here in the southern hemisphere), and in English (That is not our language), the idea is to expose him to English and to good, historically accurate and well produced movies.

He was amazed and ecstatic about it, He's 14 and from a generation used to spectacular special effects and CGI. Now he's asking for more and we have watched since then Battle of Midway, Sink the Bismarck, Patton, In which we serve, the Dam Busters and Zulu.

The result is that now he cares more to read about the facts of the story told in the movie, about the acting and how the story is unfolded.

I must say that I´m quite proud of him, and is really rewarding to share with him my interest in military history.

The downside is that he doesn´t care about WITP.



At 14 the game would be intimidating. Too complex and too many rules. Give him a couple of years. I could handle SPI monster games at 14, but those were simple compared to WITP-AE.

Alternatively, you could pay him a modest amount of money to play. It would keep him away from girls and beer -- the real goals of most 14 year old boys.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 3:41:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Maglio

I saw it with my eldest son during our summer holydays (January and February here in the southern hemisphere), and in English (That is not our language), the idea is to expose him to English and to good, historically accurate and well produced movies.

He was amazed and ecstatic about it, He's 14 and from a generation used to spectacular special effects and CGI. Now he's asking for more and we have watched since then Battle of Midway, Sink the Bismarck, Patton, In which we serve, the Dam Busters and Zulu.

The result is that now he cares more to read about the facts of the story told in the movie, about the acting and how the story is unfolded.

I must say that I´m quite proud of him, and is really rewarding to share with him my interest in military history.

The downside is that he doesn´t care about WITP.



At 14 the game would be intimidating. Too complex and too many rules. Give him a couple of years. I could handle SPI monster games at 14, but those were simple compared to WITP-AE.

Alternatively, you could pay him a modest amount of money to play. It would keep him away from girls and beer -- the real goals of most 14 year old boys.

Regards,
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Give him time
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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 8:52:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Haven't seen Tora Tora Tora for quite a long time now. As mentioned by others, I've got both Flags of our Fathers and Sands of Iwo Jima. SOIJ I constantly go back to - love that film, great acting too, and the story is great. Another great Pacific Theatre film I love is The Thin Red Line. A must see!

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 11:58:21 AM   
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Have it on Blu-ray still one of my favorites. I Can't stomach TMTSNBN, I get mad every time I watch that pile of flotsam.



Um, dude? Are you a masochist? I've never seen a minute of it, and I'm a very happy person.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/22/2014 11:26:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I only watched it once and returned to the rental place and the girl behind the counter was absolutely bent out of shape by our assertion that it was a chick flick,` of course my wife likes it but knows better than to watch it with me home or listen to obnoxious comments from yours truly.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 12:32:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is there a monitor that will ban any mention of TMTSNBN henceforth?

I don't think I can take anymore.

Anyway guys, check out the new movie coming out in May - The Hornet's Nest.

Not a Hollywood movie but a documentary filmed by (lack of a better term) combat cameraman of an operation in the Afgan war.

http://thehornetsnestmovie.com/

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 2:30:47 PM   
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Is there a monitor that will ban any mention of TMTSNBN henceforth?

I don't think I can take anymore.

Anyway guys, check out the new movie coming out in May - The Hornet's Nest.

Not a Hollywood movie but a documentary filmed by (lack of a better term) combat cameraman of an operation in the Afgan war.

http://thehornetsnestmovie.com/



I saw the trailer on CNN. I'm of 2 minds on this. It needs to be documented. It needs to be shown. But the idea of theater for real combat situations bothers me for reasons I can't really explain.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 4:40:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I must be the only one on the forum who has not seen TMTSNBN. I almost feel like I'm missing something, but from what's said here, it would be like missing a bad head cold.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 7:20:00 PM   
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I think I must be the only one on the forum who has not seen TMTSNBN. I almost feel like I'm missing something, but from what's said here, it would be like missing a bad head cold.


Nope, I haven't seen it, either. And no intention of doing so!

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 9:22:12 PM   
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I think I must be the only one on the forum who has not seen TMTSNBN. I almost feel like I'm missing something, but from what's said here, it would be like missing a bad head cold.


Nope, I haven't seen it, either. And no intention of doing so!
warspite1

Nope, never seen it either - just a few clips and great lines like:

Danny: I think World War II just started (yep its December 1941 you %^&*U).

and

Evelyn: Do you ever wonder if this war's going to catch up with us?

To watch this film all the way through you have to be a dumb son of a $%^&^* or just have a great sense of humour


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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/23/2014 10:01:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CaptDave


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ORIGINAL: pws1225

I think I must be the only one on the forum who has not seen TMTSNBN. I almost feel like I'm missing something, but from what's said here, it would be like missing a bad head cold.


Nope, I haven't seen it, either. And no intention of doing so!
warspite1

Nope, never seen it either - just a few clips and great lines like:

Danny: I think World War II just started (yep its December 1941 you %^&*U).

and

Evelyn: Do you ever wonder if this war's going to catch up with us?

To watch this film all the way through you have to be a dumb son of a $%^&^* or just have a great sense of humour



Or just have american view on world events :).

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/24/2014 3:49:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tora Tora Tora is the gold standard by which future docudrama's should adhere to. It walks the fine line of balance....giving both sides a chance to explain their views.... not something seen in movies very often...

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/24/2014 3:52:36 PM   
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Or just have american view on world events :).


I wouldn't say that. Hollywood just likes a 'good' story and doesn't care if facts get in the way.

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/24/2014 8:48:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dumb question: what TMTSNBN stands for?

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RE: OT Tora Tora Tora - 4/24/2014 10:24:00 PM   
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Dumb question: what TMTSNBN stands for?
warspite1

The Movie That Shall Not Be Named a.k.a Pearl Harbor a.k.a a steaming pile of doggy doo .


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