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RE: Balade of the Newbie: The grand Campaign (Allies vs... - 5/4/2020 9:57:06 AM

BlitzimX

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Not disbanding a tanker for refuel is so obvious i'm kind of ashamed i didn't think about it earlier, it solves so much fuel unloading and refueling problems.
Also yeah, not having to refuel your tanker is obviously a good idea, no wonder why my fuel reserves in OZ die so fast.

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RE: Balade of the Newbie: The grand Campaign (Allies vs... - 5/4/2020 10:55:36 AM

Sardaukar

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Don't use Suva as fuel hub. Even AI might use KB to pay a visit..found that hard way and lost quite a few TKs.

I ship now from LA to Auckland and from there to Sydney. That's the easiest way. Human player might punish you for that, but AI rarely.

Andymac's newer AI files work well with stock map with BabesLite...and can give a nasty surprise.

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RE: Balade of the Newbie: The grand Campaign (Allies vs... - 5/20/2020 2:57:46 PM

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Back with a few questions, linked to the supply chain, as it seems i'm missing something here.

As i've seen, and as you've said, a better chain is to use LA to Auckland, then Auckland to Sydney. I get this is a safer route given the ships go further south, yet isn't it less fuel efficent? I've tried a few convoys, and barely any ship can you the full go and return route without refueling. WOuld you say the cost is quite inferior to the benefits? Or is it where Oilers and on route replenishment come to play?

I've also set up a route from Aden to CT for fuel with very long range Tankers, since it seems i can't get it to work with short range ones (i need to have them transit on the map).

Also do i understand well that India and Australia only need Fuel, given they make their own supply? If yes, what would be the point of trailing supplies to CT in the first place?

SOrry for those questions but supply is something i have a hard time getting a grasp on ^^'

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RE: Balade of the Newbie: The grand Campaign (Allies vs... - 5/20/2020 3:06:55 PM

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It is a lot longer for the fuel to get there if the tankers get sunk along the way.

You build up Capetown from the East Coast and some from England. That supply is for your offensive operations in SEAC, plus transfers to Australia, and hopefully to China. Dumping a lot of supplies in Burma will see some of those supplies get to the Chinese armies which need them desperately. If you dump a million supplies in China with a starving army, the supplies are gone fast.

While Australia does make supplies, it does not make enough for offensive operations. The best way to shut down the Japanese economy early is to starve it of oil and fuel. Early on, ship oil and fuel from the DEI to Australia.

Until you can ship directly to Aden, you can ship fuel to Aden from Abadan.

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RE: Balade of the Newbie: The grand Campaign (Allies vs... - 5/20/2020 3:59:26 PM

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Indian operations, if japanese player launch some offensive, can be very supply demanding. I always keep a continuis line of xAKs, usually the Dominion L, between CapeTown and India, to keep it well feed.

Same with Australia. 80% of PBEMs, Port Moresby will be japanese, and you will need base 4E at Australia, plus improve lot of airfields. Thats takes a lot of supply, so another set of convoys from CapeTown to Perth/Melbourne/Adelaide is a must.

Long range convoys from USA to OZ are always impossible to make go and return without refuel. My trick is make the return point of the convoy at Christmas Island. 75% of the long range TKs and xAks can go Los Angeles-Sidney and return to Chrismas Island without refuel. You only have to keep Chrismas with plenty of fuel and voila.

Edit: When you got Libertys, they CAN go and back without refuel, but til 1943 you don't have enough.

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