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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 2/27/2016 3:41:43 PM   
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Not sure you have the troops to spare but I always try to have some troops prepped in reserve in case the Japanese do what they did at Kusaie. Its a good way to kill Japanese troops and makes the Japanese player wary of reinforcing in the future.

On critical landings I always try and have a full Corps in reserve.


I have another (green / 50 XP) division at Pearl, the one that got stomped at Wake for whatever reason. It's almost re-prepped for Kusaie. By the time my APAs make it back to Pearl from going to CONUS for more troops, it should be ready.

I actually did have some tanks prepped that I didn't land initially. I've been using them to help reduce forts and cause casualties, but because he brought in more troops I haven't been able to get the odds I need to take the base. I've lost a few ships to Helen kamikazes out of Ponape, but since I get a VP for each kamikaze, it's actually been a good trade for me. Last turn an SC was sunk and a TK damaged (empty, in a convoy that I forgot to set to Return Same Route). Am looking at this as an opportunity to get that Div some XP, which will be important later.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 2/27/2016 3:42:23 PM   
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Reading along with witpqs we should be able to tell how and when supply becomes an issue for Japan. He has his opponent in an ever tightening choke hold.
So far I have not seen any apparent effect.


But is his opponent using size 81 groups, which sometimes get decimated and need to be rebuilt? Doing so should burn a lot of supply. We'll see... I'm just going to keep hammering away at the Chinese bases I don't see myself needing supplies at if I retake them (that's all but about 2), especially while I wait for ships and men to get into place.

I don't think so, unless some exist naturally. We had an email discussion recently (just off-hand, not sparked by anything) and he mentioned that the max-out re-sizing of groups is something he doesn't like to do.


None. Some groups will get into the upper 40s (45, 49, etc.), and I think maybe in 1945 will resize to 51 or 52? That's it, though.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 5:32:29 AM   
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Game date is up through July 14 now. I'm going to do 4 updates per month, but starting with one in Burma prior to those as things are developing quickly there.

Burma - June 3, 1944
The beginnings of an opportunity here... I am now keeping permanent recon on the Rahaeng triangle, Chiang Mai, and Moulmein. Regular recon on Bangkok and sporadic on deeper targets. Such as the heart of Thailand - Udon Thani, Nakhon, and Ubon are all minimally defended. The price of sending everything to the front, and so much to the Pacific to stop my landings, is that he may not be able to build forts in time to stall me in Asia.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 5:51:02 AM   
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We'll start in Burma with the regular maps again.

Burma - June 8, 1944
Almost done with Blair and Andaman.

Ground bombing of Pisanuloke on May 31 reveals that forts are probably low, as one raid caused 184 casualties (amongst engineer/base forces only).

It's the 1st RTA at Udon Thani. They have few or no organic engineers, and only 1 unit reported there, so forts aren't currently being built.

We sweep Bangkok some, with P-47s, and win but at cost. Mostly, we sweep outside Pegu and Chiang Mai, making sure the skies are clear for our 2Es, FBs, and occasional 4Es bombing the troops, but we still lose some bombers periodically. At a rate higher than I would prefer. To the NE of Chiang Mai, the 21st IJA Division tried a shock attack on June 5 and failed miserably - over 3000 IJA casualties against less than 100 Chinese. Supply, disruption, and fatigue penalties. Bombing works.

Not quite shown here, bombing of industry in China continues.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 5:55:02 AM   
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CENTPAC - June 8, 1944

Despite IJ naval search being minimal here, sometimes there are Helens on kamikaze runs from Ponape... a few ships are lost, but it takes him more kamikazes than he gains in VPs. Eventually I route ships farther south from Kusaie.

Screenshot shows that I'm finally running proper base forces and supply to Ailinglaplap. The CVEs are present because Roi-Namur and Kwajalein may still have enough supply to launch some air strikes.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 6:02:50 AM   
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Banda Sea / New Guinea - June 8, 1944

Most of the time on my turns remains in this area. KB is left in the area for quite some time. Unsure if he is revealing them on purpose, hoping that I will bring my fleet CVs back out somewhere (although if I had them concentrated, with CVEs, I think I could beat KB... but I need them for something else)... or maybe keeping them as a deterrent against me moving faster? Another thought is that he is preparing for an evacuation of some bases between Timor and Manado. I think he has pulled some troops from Boela, maybe, although that would not really explain the AKs that I recently sunk there either empty or with supplies on board - it would run counter to the implications of their presence, actually (that he needs supplies in order to defend). If KB is remaining revealed to act as a deterrent to an invasion of Sansapor and Sorong, then it is working to an extent but my troops are not ready yet anyway. Besides that, I can be patient here.

All or almost all of his paratroop units remain committed at Manokwari. He hasn't tried to lift them out. I don't have an airfield there to be bombed, which also means I don't have any ability to run CAP to intercept transports.

Per SIGINT, he's building up Endeh, and I failed to intercept troops before they landed. I've been mining the port, and bombing it as able, but I just don't have the bombers available to do it unless I want to run my B-24J pools ragged.

I wish I had more LSTs available to send here to land oodles of supply at all of the places I need it to run more CAP.




Oh yeah, and we land ~1000 AV at Biak via landing craft and just a few bigger amphibs on June 7. Enough to take the place within a week against just 292 AV of defenders.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 6:19:26 AM   
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I'll do the score screen just twice a month.

Banda / New Guinea - June 16, 1944

I'd like to move on from Kaimana and Kai-eilanden to Boela (and Babo?) and Ambon, but I don't have many troops prepped. I have more prepped or prepping for Sansapor and Sorong. I may have enough prepped for Ambon to take it, particularly if I transfer 2Es to Saumlaki/Taberfane/etc.

I landed about 400 more AV at Lautem via LCT, and supplies continue coming in by sub.

Fighters, and periodically bombers (Jills and Lily DBs), are based at Sorong/Waigeo/Sansapor. He is now building up Morotai. I approve of his expenditure of fuel/supplies to do this over and over.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 6:24:13 AM   
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Burma - June 16, 1944

Now that things are in motion, they are actually moving somewhat slowly... moving off the paths takes a while . We're almost into Chiang Mai. Note his movement dots:

SE from Chiang Mai
W from Rahaeng
W from Uttaradit

Presumably, the 21st Division is moving out of Chiang Mai while reinforcements from Bangkok are moving west from the rail lines. Still no movement away from Moulmein. I don't think he is running any recon on my troops, or else if he is he is not yet aware of the danger.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 6:27:23 AM   
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Score - June 16, 1944

Allied VPs: +1511
Japan VPs: +350
Ratio: 1.111 against, a change of +.025

Still need to build out Rangoon. The biggest piece of the difference in my score is from his aircraft losses (more than 700). Another 500 from his LCUs.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 8:42:42 PM   
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Burma - June 23, 1944

At first I was just moving to the E of Moulmein to avoid the shock attack across the river while I sent half of my forces towards Chiang Mai. I'm comfortable being patient, but he's left an opening here... I doubt I can cut off any of his stuff, but I'll settle for wrecking the defenders of Chiang Mai and Rahaeng. Once I cross into the hex outside of Rahaeng, all of his stuff at Moulmein will be forced to walk down the coast or else risk being destroyed. Pics coming in following posts with the units involved. It's notable that all 3 IJA tank divisions are either at Moulmein or Chiang Mai. Destroying tanks makes me happy because more than half of my forces here are Chinese, with most of the British/Indian/Australian forces that come for this theater set up for elsewhere.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 8:43:08 PM   
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Forces heading for Rahaeng.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 8:43:36 PM   
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And those heading for Chiang Mai.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 8:49:27 PM   
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And forces that I've felt compelled to rest up. I wish I had them available for the push through, but I absolutely need fresh troops for later.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 9:02:07 PM   
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Banda / New Guinea - June 23, 1944

Lots of aerial tangles here. Mostly me sweeping bases to keep him from basing too many bombers up front. I want the ocean and beaches to belong to my supply runners, and small cruiser/destroyer TFs tasked with intercepting any IJN presence or period bombardments.

His shift westward with the bombers sometimes spots ships moving between Perth and Darwin, outside of Truscott. I am debating landing some Seabees and building it up, but I don't really have the air support to spare on this side of New Guinea right now. There's plenty over at Rabaul, though... A few transports get damaged by Nells and Bettys flying from Waingapoe or perhaps even all the way up to Denpasar.

He is using 50-100 2E bombers to try to beat up my troops at Lautem, but it doesn't do much. It probably burns some of my supply, but it's not really an issue because I don't have the Support to do any attacks anyway. Sometime, I will. But I'm fine with this taking some time, so long as a lot of his assets are tied down.

Sometimes he tries sweeping my island bases north of Darwin, and I have to rest the CAP at times (entirely). This means that sometimes some Jills appear out of nowhere over some small TF. On the 18th, it's a legitimate attempt at a large raid, complete with Oscars on escort, but they all miss.

On the 19th, CL Abukuma and 6 DDs slip past CLs Leander/Caradoc and some DDs, and sink 3 AKs and 1 LST at Taberfane.

Overall, the story is that the P-47 on offense and Corsairs/Hellcats on defense are slowly extending our area of control here.

On June 22, Broome's airfield reaches level 8. This will be important in the next update...




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 9:31:23 PM   
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Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

KB still hanging around the general area, to the north this time at Talaud-eilanden.

I didn't want to reveal my B-29s this early, as I had another plan for them, but I saw an opportunity to hit some ships in port without much in the way of defenses... so I took it. Combat reports combined (including aircraft numbers):

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Japanese aircraft
A6M5d-S Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5d-S Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 15 damaged
B-29-1 Superfort: 4 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 10, on fire
BB Ise, Bomb hits 14, on fire
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 2
DD Sawakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS I-31, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Nokaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Tachikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Akitsushima Maru, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 7
Port fuel hits 2


So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.

Jacks and a bunch of search planes are based at Kendari. Lilys, Oscars, and Zeroes are based over at/near Koepang/Endeh. Lautem and Dili remain empty ever since they got pounded a month ago. Manado is only port 2(2), but AF 9(6). It has a bunch of fighters, some bombers, and some others... but mostly it's being used as a waypoint by the IJN on their way south or east. I'm not terribly anxious to continue advancing in that direction, but we'll see how things go once I pull the trigger on some other stuff.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 9:38:21 PM   
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Burma - June 30, 1944

Rangoon's airfield reached level 9 on the next turn, so now just need to take the port from 5 to 9 for another 400 VPs.

Movement progress for the Chinese in the hex NW of Rahaeng is 27 miles. For the "Indian" stack outside of Moulmein, it is 25 miles. They should arrive a day after the Chinese.

At Chiang Mai for Japan:
1st Tank Division
3rd Tank Division
55th Division
21st Division
9th Tank Regiment
15th Tank Regiment
12th Tank Regiment

1 Brigade, 1 engineer regiment, 1 AA regiment, 2 FA regiments, 1 heavy ART battalion, 1 HQ, and RTA Cavalry Division


I'm bombing Moulmein daily from Pegu/Rangoon and Blair (PV-1's!). Mostly just waiting on troop movements to crack things open here. I am undecided on whether I will advance towards Bangkok, or cut straight towards Udon Thani and then Ubon. For now, troops are prepping for Bangkok and other targets in that direction, for the small good that matters in combat.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 9:40:39 PM   
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CENTPAC - June 30, 1944

Kusaie finally taken. Still bombing the Marshalls daily with USMC B-25s, A-20s, and TBMs. Now moving supply and AvSupp to Kusaie, will begin doing the daily bombings on Ponape at some point. In employment parlance, the stuff here is just "busy work." I do have to be wary of a potential KB ambush of my CVEs, which would put a major crimp in my plans for the Pacific, but once Ailinglaplap is up and running we should be fine. I haven't seen any IJN ships try to run supply this direction for about a month.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/29/2016 9:45:15 PM   
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Score - June 30, 1944

Allied VPs: +1330 (about 790 of this is IJ aircraft, about 400 in LCU VPs)
Japan VPs: +529 (about 420 is aircraft, the rest is ships)
Ratio: 1.093 against, a change of +.018. Smallest change in a while.

June 30 marked the 30th straight day of positive VPs for me, but the streak ended on July 1...

This period actually had me losing ground against the goal of getting to a 2:1 aircraft loss ratio.




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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/30/2016 9:01:58 PM   
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Banda / New Guinea - June 30, 1944

So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.



Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/31/2016 1:24:44 AM   
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So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.



Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs.


I think so too. They didn't hit 50+ Sys in the damage report, but I know Ise and Nagato both have flooding damage from before (Ise 2 torpedoes plus bombs for heavy fires/heavy damage, Nagato 1 torpedo plus bombs for heavy fires). The fact that neither have 'heavy damage' listed means all damage categories are under 50, however I would expect Ise to be somewhere in the 30s for float and/or engine. That alone will would a year to fix if it were the only ship in a size 50+ yard. He doesn't have many of those - he hasn't expanded Soerabaja much, and Singapore remains a size 50 I think. Manila likewise under 50. Hong Kong at 50, but getting bombed sometimes.

Unfortunately, them being out for the war means I won't get the chance to harvest their VPs (most likely). I think Ise is definitely out for the war. Nagato might make it back in sometime in mid-late 1945. In my experience, 50-ish Sys damage takes about 7-8 months to fix. So if they hit 30-40, maybe, we're talking 4-5 months minimum. Plus transit times, plus any major damage, which is why I think I might see Nagato again but not Ise. With Yamato, Yamashiro, and Hyuga all sunk that means I'm looking at 4 Kongos, Musashi, Fuso, and Mutsu for his operable BB strength. Not too scary. He uses the Kongos a lot. One day I'll sink them.


I may do some semi-daily updates since turns are moving slow. MM is finishing up on some school things. I'm plenty busy on my own and could spend the time doing other things, but this is more fun. On a side note, this is definitely me:
http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_inside_the_mind_of_a_master_procrastinator

After watching that, I watched about 4 more...and then I read his latest blog post on cryonics. Took over an hour. I didn't get much "done" during that time. Perfect example.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/31/2016 9:02:21 AM   
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I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 3/31/2016 3:35:43 PM   
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I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..


That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.

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So obviously, Ise is not sunk from the previous damage. I had hoped for some better results, but I would guess that 20 or so points of System damage caused to each BB by the time fires are put out. That's another few months of repairs.



Based on tests I did bombing BBs I think these are out for the war, even assuming they can be transferred to a big shipyard for repairs.


I think so too. They didn't hit 50+ Sys in the damage report, but I know Ise and Nagato both have flooding damage from before (Ise 2 torpedoes plus bombs for heavy fires/heavy damage, Nagato 1 torpedo plus bombs for heavy fires). The fact that neither have 'heavy damage' listed means all damage categories are under 50, however I would expect Ise to be somewhere in the 30s for float and/or engine. That alone will would a year to fix if it were the only ship in a size 50+ yard. He doesn't have many of those - he hasn't expanded Soerabaja much, and Singapore remains a size 50 I think. Manila likewise under 50. Hong Kong at 50, but getting bombed sometimes.

Unfortunately, them being out for the war means I won't get the chance to harvest their VPs (most likely). I think Ise is definitely out for the war. Nagato might make it back in sometime in mid-late 1945. In my experience, 50-ish Sys damage takes about 7-8 months to fix. So if they hit 30-40, maybe, we're talking 4-5 months minimum. Plus transit times, plus any major damage, which is why I think I might see Nagato again but not Ise. With Yamato, Yamashiro, and Hyuga all sunk that means I'm looking at 4 Kongos, Musashi, Fuso, and Mutsu for his operable BB strength. Not too scary. He uses the Kongos a lot. One day I'll sink them.


I may do some semi-daily updates since turns are moving slow. MM is finishing up on some school things. I'm plenty busy on my own and could spend the time doing other things, but this is more fun. On a side note, this is definitely me:
http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_urban_inside_the_mind_of_a_master_procrastinator

After watching that, I watched about 4 more...and then I read his latest blog post on cryonics. Took over an hour. I didn't get much "done" during that time. Perfect example.


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I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..


That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.


EDIT: does he even have anything else to invade with?


Ok this seems to make sense now ..

My thought was to always keep Ramree X2+ so supply from Rangoon would not go northward and westward .. there seems to be a total limit of how much is propagated from any base
I do wonder if opening the road to China is a part of that limit or just an abstract add of supplies into china if the road is open?
Anyway moot point if enough supplies are moving where you need it ..

NICE! Things are going well here in Burma!

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 4/1/2016 2:21:00 AM   
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I'm not sure why that "EDIT" made it into the post here, instead of in a different thread

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 4/1/2016 5:48:42 AM   
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quote:

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I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..


That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.


I don't think supplies can move from Rangoon northwards. Rangoon is the biggest port in the Burma rail matrix which means 70-85% of your supplies in Burma will accumulate automatically in Rangoon. If you ship supplies to Rangoon they will just sit there waiting... to be exported by ships. In order to move them north you will have to up the supply demand at Lashio or Myitkyina, stockpile supply there or move a command HQ to Lashio or Myitkyina to gather 20,000 supplies there.

Command HQ seems to override the automatic supply accumulation in the biggest port thing. The HQ tries to gather 20,000 at all times. The one thing I do not know if the command HQ robs other bases from supplies needed duitfully by them or it only gathers all surplus supply in a given region.



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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 4/1/2016 3:17:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Yaab


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

quote:

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I noticed a yellow "!" at Ramree Island .. you might push more supply here as well as Rangoon .. I find
it propagates better. I know usually you use Ramree Island to push supply attacking Rangoon but filling
these two locations seems to me help get supplies even over as far as Bangkok ..


That actually occurred because I'm pulling out of Ramree. I no longer need it. I'm using some xAPs and LSTs to load up the troops there - faster than walking.

I did have periodic supply issues until I took Rangoon, but now that I have it (and Blair), he isn't challenging any of my supply convoys on the way in. Middle of July now and I've got 300K supply at Rangoon, with more coming every few days.

Supply actually flows fairly well between Rangoon and Bangkok once you have the area all cleared. I think it's because of the road from Moulmein to the rails at Uttaradit/Pisanuloke. I've marched all the way to Vinh so far in that game and only had supply issues on a couple of days after mounting an attack.

The only area in Burma that I'm still somewhat concerned about supplies is Lashio/Myitkyina. I'm still unable to use bases in this area for aerial operations over western China, should I choose to do that (like bombing more industry). I'm not sure I've had Rangoon for long enough for the supply to make its way north, though.


I don't think supplies can move from Rangoon northwards. Rangoon is the biggest port in the Burma rail matrix which means 70-85% of your supplies in Burma will accumulate automatically in Rangoon. If you ship supplies to Rangoon they will just sit there waiting... to be exported by ships. In order to move them north you will have to up the supply demand at Lashio or Myitkyina, stockpile supply there or move a command HQ to Lashio or Myitkyina to gather 20,000 supplies there.

Command HQ seems to override the automatic supply accumulation in the biggest port thing. The HQ tries to gather 20,000 at all times. The one thing I do not know if the command HQ robs other bases from supplies needed duitfully by them or it only gathers all surplus supply in a given region.





Extra supplies will accumulate in Rangoon, yes, but it should ship supplies out as needed, just like normal, to bases farther north in Burma. The same thing happens with Singapore, for example - supply pools there like crazy, but it does also ship out. The trouble in Burma is that the supply draw is limited, and especially limited in monsoon season. I started building forts again at Myitkyina, for example, because it increases the supply draw limit and it was faster than building another level of airfield.

Also, Command HQs try to accumulate 25,000 I thought.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 5/11/2016 7:56:30 PM   
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Just completed the month of July. A couple of nuggets before I post up summaries (I need to do all the screenshots still):

1) I have been informed that the IJAAF now has CV-capable planes, and verified that the Ki-74 Stella is indeed available 44/7. I went ahead and checked the units that can upgrade to it - seems like FBs and LBs, but no fighters. So I won't have to worry about 81-plane fighter units, at least.

2) Does anyone know, for sure, that Chinese respawns will occur at Chengtu if Chungking is in Japanese hands? I know the manual says this, but I really, really need to know.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 5/11/2016 8:48:25 PM   
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The Chengtu thing just happened in the NJP vs Wargmr game. You can check it out in either thread.

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RE: Headhunter - Lokasenna (A) vs. mind_messing (J) - N... - 5/11/2016 8:54:14 PM   
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The Chengtu thing just happened in the NJP vs Wargmr game. You can check it out in either thread.


It will happen the turn after you take the city and dump all of the available troops in about 7 days.

Avoiding overstacking is impossible.

I had no idea until it started happening.

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